Macross - Mecha, Weapons, and Technology

[Convoy]

How many Macross class ships have been seen on screen? These are the ones I have managed to find information on.

Built by the Supervision Army
SDF-1 Macross (Super Dimension Fortress Macross et al.)

First mass production type
SDFN-4 Macross Global (seen in Macross Frontier)
Unnamed Macross class ship on Uroboros in Macross 30: Voices Across the Galaxy

New Macross battleships
Battle 1 (glimpsed in Macross 7)
Battle 5 (glimpsed in Macross 7)
Battle 7 (mainstay of Macross 7)
Battle 11 (not seen but presumably exists in Macross Frontier)
Battle 13 (seen in VF-X2)

larger New Macross battleships
Battle 21 aka Battle Galaxy (seen in Macross Frontier)
Battle 25 aka Battle Frontier (mainstay of Macross Frontier)

Macross Quarter type
Macross Quarter (mainstay of Macross Frontier)
at least 5 seen in Macross Frontier: Sayonara no Tsubasa

later mass production type
SDF/C-108 Macross Elysion (mainstay of Macross Delta)

[ReddyRedWolf]

Originally Posted by Convoy

How many Macross class ships have been seen on screen? These are the ones I have managed to find information on.

Built by the Supervision Army
SDF-1 Macross (Super Dimension Fortress Macross et al.)

First mass production type
SDFN-4 Macross Global (seen in Macross Frontier)
Unnamed Macross class ship on Uroboros in Macross 30: Voices Across the Galaxy

New Macross battleships
Battle 1 (glimpsed in Macross 7)
Battle 5 (glimpsed in Macross 7)
Battle 7 (mainstay of Macross 7)
Battle 11 (not seen but presumably exists in Macross Frontier)
Battle 13 (seen in VF-X2)

larger New Macross battleships
Battle 21 aka Battle Galaxy (seen in Macross Frontier)
Battle 25 aka Battle Frontier (mainstay of Macross Frontier)

Macross Quarter type
Macross Quarter (mainstay of Macross Frontier)
at least 5 seen in Macross Frontier: Sayonara no Tsubasa

later mass production type
SDF/C-108 Macross Elysion (mainstay of Macross Delta)

The on on Ouroboros is named SDFN-08 Vrlithwai Kridanik it is also called Vrlithwhai City. From Macross E Delta prequel one SDFN on the colonized planet Pipure.

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This one from Macross VF-X2 prologue.

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These fleet in the Macross Frontier prologue.

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Mentioned in other media.
Macross 4 (VF-X2 colonized Sephira)
Macross 9 (Macross Generation drama cd)
Macross Two-Nine (29) (Macross Musiculture play)
SMS Macross Quarter Class Crazy Horse ship where Isamu is assigned.(Wings of Goodbye novelization)
SMS Macross Quarter Class Enlightenment assigned to Planet Zola. (Nyan Dora Drama CD)
SMS Macross Quarter Class 17 assigned to Macross 17 Fleet. (Wings of Goodbye movie)
SMS Macross Quarter Class 23 assigned to Macross 23 Fleet. (Wings of Goodbye movie)

Fleets mentioned in Macross VF Master File including SMS Macross One Third. Note VF Master File calls the Macross Elysion a Macross Two Third class.
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Fleet that appears in related media
Macross Olympian Fleet

Fleet dealt with in "Variable fighter master file VF - 25 Messiah new savior". In the world of works 2065, the same book will be published by the Macross Broadcasting Publication Olympia Fleet Section Branch [39] .

Ultra long-distance immigration fleet sailing with the Macross-Galaxy fleet and the Macross Frontier fleet aiming for the center of the galaxy. It is unknown which planet it departed from, and what the next immigrant fleet, whether it is a new macross class if totaled.

The positional relationship is about to follow the 500 light years behind the Frontier fleet on the same line (as of December 2056) [40] .

In 2053, the newly consolidated government decided to grant YF-24 evolution related technology to the three fleets of frontier, Olympia and Galaxy heading towards the habitat of Bajula, called "triangle plan" A new variable fighter development plan will be undertaken [41] . The development number of YF - 25 to the frontier fleet, YF - 26 to the Olympia fleet and YF - 27 to the Galaxy fleet is given, but the Olympia fleet is to study over technology from Protocultural ruins rather than development of the Bajula airframe It is said that he was showing interest in YF-26, and will collaborate with the frontier fleet and YF-25 [42] .

In 2054, we discovered the planet Gainos 3 in the Gainos star system in the M28 globular clusters and exploited the terraforming of about 10 years for the purpose of replenishing resources and making it a point of contact with Earth as a relay point. . VF - 25 will be introduced to the defense of the planet [43] .

In the novel " Macross the Ride " set in 2058, Bunkish race is done as well as Frontier fleet and Galaxy fleet, Glen Eckner becomes champ.

In 2064, the author of the article "Sword Dancer" in "Variable Fighter · Master File VF - 25 Messiah" sent SMS pilot, Captain Sayuki Sayon (pseudonym used in SMS) to teach VF - 25 Squadron, Interview with [44] . In the same year, Sheryl Nome temporarily occupies the Olympia fleet [45] .

CVR-630 Cavour
Gwang Tanamo class space aircraft carrier belonging to the Macross Olympian fleet escort fleet. VF - 25 is deployed as a shipboard machine, and SQ - 522 Stampede Sanders etc are organized flying squads.
Macross One Tard
The flagship of the SMS Olympia Fleet Chapter. There is a teaching team "Bunishers" consisting of ace selected from each SMS branch.

Macross Valiant fleet

The fleet that appears in the article "Lost Children" (96 - 101) in "Variable Fighter Master File VF - 25 Messiah New Savior".

The 46 th long distance immigration fleet. It is unknown which planet it departed from. It consists of about 900 vessels, including factory ships, environmental ships and escort fleets, with the main island including flagship macross varied as the lead.

About 20 years after departure September 2061, while sailing the Galaxy Perseus arm along the galactic circumference, confirm the existence of the island fleet of the Zentlady army fleet at the position of about 4 million kilometers ahead. At that time President Lazarus Hayden decided to fold after 72 hours. At the same time, the special ship CV - 455 Barbarossa with its planet megara as its home port will be sent to investigate and grasp the route information of the main fleet. According to Barbarossa's findings, a fold will be held at noon on September 13, but the 97th environmental ship Sentosa will deform in the midst of the backbone fleet due to some trouble. Although it is judged to be abandoned for security reasons, Barbarossa succeeds in rescuing 1200 passengers passengers with arbitrary motion, and Sentosa is extinguished by the MDE warhead to prevent giving information to the main fleet.
Macross Elant fleet

A fleet described on page 15, "Valiable Fighter Master File VF - 25 Messiah New Savior".

As it exists only in setting, neither the total or the new macross class, which ones are the super long-distance immigrant fleet and which planet it departed, is unknown.

CV-415 Ticonderoga
Macross Eland's defense ship.

Macross Odysseus Fleet

A fleet described on page 54 "Valiable Fighter Master File VF - 25 Messiah New Savior".

As it exists only in setting, neither the total or the new macross class, which ones are the super long-distance immigrant fleet and which planet it departed, is unknown.

CV-421 Academy
An escort ship of Macross Odysseus. There is a squadron named SVF-1202 Firebirds.

Macross Challenger Fleet

A fleet described on page 60, "Variable fighter master file VF - 25 Messiah new savior". In 2063 he discovered and settled the A-class habitable planet Carlis [46] .

As it exists only in setting, neither the total or the new macross class, which ones are the super long-distance immigrant fleet and which planet it departed, is unknown.

CV-482 Munitinia
An escort ship of Macross Challenger. There is an SVF - 640 Great Slashers squad who introduced VF - 25C.

[Convoy]

Originally Posted by ReddyRedWolf

The on on Ouroboros is named SDFN-08 Vrlithwai Kridanik it is also called Vrlithwhai City. From Macross E Delta prequel one SDFN on the colonized planet Pipure.

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Ah, thank you. It's so bloody hard to find information on Macross 30.

*middle finger at localization problems, mainly Harmony Gold*

[ReddyRedWolf]

Oh forgot there is a Battle 11 mentioned in Wings of Goodbye Novelization among the taskforce including Battle 7 and Macross 13 led by Kim Kabirov.

[Convoy]

Originally Posted by ReddyRedWolf

Oh forgot there is a Battle 11 mentioned in Wings of Goodbye Novelization among the taskforce including Battle 7 and Macross 13 led by Kim Kabirov.

Really? Members of Macross 7 are present in the final battle in a Frontier story?

What a contrast to FB7 where no one aboard Macross Frontier can ascertain the whereabouts of Macross 7 in 2059.

[ReddyRedWolf]

Originally Posted by Convoy

Really? Members of Macross 7 are present in the final battle in a Frontier story?

What a contrast to FB7 where no one aboard Macross Frontier can ascertain the whereabouts of Macross 7 in 2059.

In Macross the Ride which is set on 2058 a VF-19A race participant is said to be a frame from Project Fire which is Macross 7 government replacing their VF with VF-19 instead of YF-24 derivative.

If you'll notice in the music video Tousugeki Love Heart sung by Sheryl and Ranka Leon is making a call distressed by it.

Now NUNS may have kept some stuff classified like Protodelin being space vampires and Fire Bomber didn't really defeat them. In MD7 Liza a Zolan Galaxy Patrol militia pilot asked why Basara was on Zola and what is Sound Force doing there. The impression was Sound Force was super elite musical unit that defeated the Protodevlin.

Though personally I think politics is involved and Leon being essentially a corrupt political commissar sent by Earth may have something do with the info not being in Frontier's NUNS database that Luca accessed.

Rumor has it in Macross Chronicle's glossary Maria Fokina Barnrose, leader of Vindirance the pro-NUN faction of UN Spacy is actually Therese Jenius one of the twin daughters of Max and Milia. It is also said Max is a anti-Lactence supporter.

Lactence being a pro-Earth centrist conspiracy that want a centralized government by Earth over fleets and planets. This was after the UN decentralized to the NUN.

I imagine Leon having delusions of being a dictator doesn't like the Jenius clan and if he did succeed in his plan taking over the Vajra planet and having Fold Quartz monopolized Macross 7 would be one of his opposition.

[Convoy]

Are these Epsilon-manufactured Windermerean ships the exact same classes as Macross Galaxy's as seen in Frontier or have there been any modifications?

[Kamijou Touma IB]

I can see it in some ways but it is not really close.

http://www.macross2.net/m3/macrossf/...er-carrier.jpg

[ArmorPilot]

Are the Delta VFs considered to be that much of an upgrade over the VF-25 generation of machines? It seems like all they've done is upped the engine and beam power. There doesn't seem to be anything as revolutionary as being able to use Full-Armor mode in any transformation, or the Tornado pack which allowed 360 beam fire while in fighter mode.

The Durandal was a special anti Vajra unit with amped up salvaged fold quartz, but I'm not as familiar with what the newer ones do.

[Tak]

The VF-31 is an updated model to the VF-30 Durandal, which features internalized gunpods, internal support weapon systems, anti-ballistic arm-shield, enhanced pin-point barriers as well as Fold Quartz.

There is a misconception about the availability of Fold Quartz, which is indeed precious, but not uncommon. Artificial Fold Quartz also existed, and was first mentioned in Macross VFX-2 (set between 7 and Frontier).

- Tak

[ArmorPilot]

It seems like the VF-25 Generation was the big leap forward, while the 30s are more half-generation iterations on the same concept. The VF-22 and 19 were big jumps too, but never saw full scale production and remained "ace" units right?