Full Metal Panic Invisible Victory - Episode 1 Discussion / Poll

[Klashikari]

Originally Posted by Obelisk ze Tormentor

All the CG ASs in this episode still look a dozen times better than the handdrawn Behemoth in the first season though. So that's something at least .

I disagree. While the Behemoth isn't aethstetically great by any stretch, it was enough to convey its presence in term of size and sheer weight, while not looking out of place.

Meanwhile, the purple codarl at the very start of the episode was painfully obvious as CGI even when it wasn't in motion, but things went south when it is moving back to the transport ship.
Also, the way how the Arbalest moves in the trailer don't look "natural" at all when you consider the 2D environment and so on.
As usual, the real issue is how the CGI objects stand out way too much with the rest of anime.

Originally Posted by dniv

I recommend against this until you watch season 1 and 2 and maybe 3 if you feel like it.

Originally Posted by Tenzen12

Yeah third season (Fumoffu) can be skipped without any harm, but missing great deal of fun

Fumoffu is the second season, not the third one chronologically (both in the canon order of the events and airing). Of course, it isn't required for TSR, but it is best to watch it for the kicks and also for the fact certain sidestories were supposed to be in the main story in S1, but cut for obvious reasons.

Also yeah, skipping the original series and TSR is a very very bad idea.

[bercerus]

trivia: look like sousuke's school bag PDW change from steyr SPP to XM8 compact. mythril probably get it cheap from HK. since its a no one use gun (้heard the only customer is malaysian SFG).

[Obelisk ze Tormentor]

Originally Posted by Klashikari

I disagree. While the Behemoth isn't aethstetically great by any stretch, it was enough to convey its presence in term of size and sheer weight, while not looking out of place.

Meanwhile, the purple codarl at the very start of the episode was painfully obvious as CGI even when it wasn't in motion, but things went south when it is moving back to the transport ship.
Also, the way how the Arbalest moves in the trailer don't look "natural" at all when you consider the 2D environment and so on.
As usual, the real issue is how the CGI objects stand out way too much with the rest of anime.

I don't think the show is really trying to mask the CGI mechs. It's there for everyone to see and the robot looks good so it's all cool. Like Rhodey said in Iron-Man 2 "I'm here. Deal with it. Let's move on" . CG mechs is just how Xebec mainly operates since the days of Zoids anime.

And I still prefer a dynamic CGI mech than a handdrawn (mostly) still-framed Behemoth of the first season. Speaking of witch, maybe we'll get to see Behemoth again done in CG. Let's see how it looks .

[McW]

It's been awhile, the first time I watch FMP! was on 2005 during the STR airing, watched FMP and Fumoffu back to back, watched STR on 2006 one year later everything on Spanish fansub. I used to rewatch everything once awhile but stopped at some point, the last time I rewatched STR was on 2010-11 but for some reason FMP was very memorable for me, so even picking up the first episode without rewatching anything for 7-8 years I didn't feel any need of recap because everything is still fresh in my mind.

The pacing felt fast but not neck breaking fast, I supposed it's necessary, or maybe the effects are less notorious because I read the novels and knows exactly what's gonna happen.

[Sacredus]

12 years of waiting for only 12ep... Let's hope it's split cour.

[BluePhirePB]

Was FMP: TSR widescreen HD? Or was it still SD/FS.

[Darthtabby]

Originally Posted by Sacredus

12 years of waiting for only 12ep... Let's hope it's split cour.

I think a split cour is very likely. According to Mugen26, the Japanese DVD/Bluray releases for Invisible Victory are going to include the 12 part audio drama adaptation of DVMC. The three DVD/Bluray releases that have been announced so far each include four anime episodes and two parts of an audio drama. Assuming that's the DVMC audio drama, that implies there will be an additional three DVD/Bluray releases with another twelve episodes of anime.

[Obelisk ze Tormentor]

Originally Posted by BluePhirePB

Was FMP: TSR widescreen HD? Or was it still SD/FS.

Widescreen HD is available for TSR:

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[Guardian Enzo]

Originally Posted by Sacredus

12 years of waiting for only 12ep... Let's hope it's split cour.

Split-cour, second cour airing Fall, 2031.

[germanturkey]

Originally Posted by Guardian Enzo

Split-cour, second cour airing Fall, 2031.

don't put that evil on us.

also, TSR's animation was so far ahead of it's time. it doesn't look out of place today.

[HtwoN]

Originally Posted by germanturkey

don't put that evil on us.

also, TSR's animation was so far ahead of it's time. it doesn't look out of place today.

It's Kyoani.

I bet you could say the same for Violet Evergarden 10 years later.

[Obelisk ze Tormentor]

TSR's CG-choppers still look obvious in those screenshots though. Not even Kyoani is immune to that. This is what I'm trying to say to Klashikari above: CG moving objects will always look outta place in handdrawn anime if you observe it closer and carefully. You just can't help it unless the showrunners have the budget, the tech and the skill to do seamless CGI (or they wanna go full-CG like Sidonia). After we accept that fact, all that matters is whether or not the CGI itself looks good.

[Applehell]

Oof~ the pacing was definitely rather harsh, but I more or less got into the episode by 2ne half. I don't remember that much about the original FMP and 2nd Raid since it's been so long. Surprisingly, wasn't too hard for me to follow in-spite of that and I retained enough of the general context to keep up. Looking forward to the rest of the season.

[Haak]

I thought it was a fantastic start. I wouldn't have wanted them to mess around with introductions anyway. They got right into the thick of it and I couldn't be happier. No time wasted. I guess it works better for me though because I watched FMP only about a year ago.

I don't care about the CGI though. I absolutely adore Kyoani's work on Second Raid but now that CGI mecha fights and gotten so good, I can't say I mind the loss.

[MisterBaka]

Originally Posted by Haak

I don't care about the CGI though. I absolutely adore Kyoani's work on Second Raid but now that CGI mecha fights and gotten so good, I can't say I mind the loss.

The CGI was surprisingly decent except for Fowler's Venom having a rather strange walk in one scene like he's flamboyantly gay. But otherwise, everything exceeded my expectations.
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Wait for a decade and a half for CGI mecha to get good and only then go and push for the new anime based on your work... Gatoh, you magnificent bastard, I read your book! Literally.

[Belgaesh]

Man it's been such a long wait, that I even forgot most of it.
I read some sumaries and remembered most of it, but when I have some time I intend to rewatch the previous seasons.

But about the episode, it was a great start, the animation was top notch. And long five minutes, try 13 years, man I'm getting old.

[Mad Pierrot]

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[Alchemist007]

They definitely didn't fuck around with the first episode. I wonder how much material they intend to cover per cour. I'm fine with the seasons being all business and maybe save some of the fumoffluffier (couldn't resist) material for ovas.

[jwai]

Originally Posted by Mad Pierrot

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I don't recall seeing that ginger haired girl before. A new character?

[Illsteir]

Originally Posted by jwai

I don't recall seeing that ginger haired girl before. A new character?

Spoiler for The girl:

She's in the novel. She will be introduced in the next arc. Most likely in episode 5.