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View Poll Results: Whose side are you on, the Empire or the Russi Federation?
Empire 1 33.33%
Russi Federation 2 66.67%
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Old 2021-01-10, 09:59   Link #1
Garr
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Youjo Senki: Imperial Magic Vs Russi Technology

In the Saga of Tanya the Evil Movie, the Imperial Military that relies entirely on mages armed with only bolt-action rifles is pitted against the Russi Federation to the east which uses no mages and relies only on technology which is mass produced in large quantity by the Federation because of its superior industrial might.

Whose side are you on in this battle?


The Russi Federation uses the following weapons which were invented by the Soviet Union in the real world:


Carrier Plane - invented by Andrei Tupolev in 1931, the Tupolev TB-1 and Tupolev TB-3 were the 1st and only flying airplane aircraft carriers, with the TB-1 having a top speed of 178km/h and reach an altitude of 4.8km and the TB-3 having a top speed of 212km/h and also reach an altitude of 4.8km. They were bombers that carried 2-5 fighter planes above or beneath their wings that were launched when the bombers approached their targets so that the fighters did not have to rely entirely on their own fuel to reach enemy targets. The fighters were also armed with bombs, just like the bombers, or rockets, and they could dock with the bombers even after being deployed in order to refuel. This greatly increased the range and operating time of the fighters and the amount of bombs or rockets that could be used on targets in a single mission.

Below is an image of the Tupolev TB-1:



Below is an image of the Tupolev TB-3:




Tanks w/ Sloping Armor - invented by Mikhail Koshkin in 1940, the T-34 tank was the first tank to use sloping armor to deflect artillery shells and use suspension systems on the wheels to reduce vibrations and increase fuel economy, which gave the T-34 a range of 290km and a top speed of 53km/h. The superior efficiency of the T-34 allowed it to carry the largest caliber cannon among all tanks in the 2nd World War with a caliber of 85mm.

Below is an image of the T-34:




Air-Air and Air-Ground Rockets - invented by Georgy Langemak in 1937, the RS-132 rockets are the 1st rockets that can be fired from fighter planes and can travel faster than sound at a top speed of 1,260km/h, have a range of 7.1km, carry 900g of high explosives, and have a blast area of 314m^2.

Below is an image of the RS-132 Rockets:




Self-Propelled MRLS - invented by Georgy Langemak in 1939, the BM-13 Katyusha was the first self-propelled multiple rocket launcher in history with a range 650km and a top speed of 65km/h. It fired 48 rockets simultaneously that had a diameter of 132mm, warheads weighing 42kg, a top speed of 1,440km/h, and a range of 30km. Because the rockets could travel a distance that was much longer than the range of German artillery, the Soviets could shoot at the Germans without the risk of getting shot at, making the Soviet advance against the Germans completely unstoppable. Because of the size and destructive power of these rockets, a salvo of 48 rockets launched by a single BM-13 would have an impact zone of 100,000 square meters, making its power equivalent to 18 of the largest conventional cannons.

Below is an image of the BM-13 Katyusha:




Fighter Planes w/ Rocket Launchers - invented by Nikolai Nikolaevich Polikarpov in 1939, the Polikarpov I-16 fighters can reach speeds of 525km/h and climb to an altitude of 9.7km. The I-16 is even armed with 2 20mm auto-cannons firing hyper-velocity incendiary rounds that have muzzle velocities of 2,844km/h at a rate of 800 rounds/min and it is also the first to be armed with rocket launchers, enabling the fighter to carry a total of 6 RS-132 rockets.

Below is an image of the Polikarpov I-16:






Sources:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tupolev_TB-1
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tupolev_TB-3
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zveno_project
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-34
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kharki...Bureau#History
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RS-82_...y)#Development
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katyusha_rocket_launcher
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polika...t_Khalkhin_Gol
https://books.google.com/books?id=zV...q=1939&f=false
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Old 2021-01-15, 21:18   Link #2
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Below is an image of the Soviet Petlyakov PE-8 bombers that Tanya and her battalion shoot down in the Youjo Senki Movie with only bolt-action rifles. In the real world, these bombers can reach 443km/h and climb to an altitude of 9.3km.

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Old 2021-01-18, 16:12   Link #3
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I'm on the side with the salaryman reincarnated as a loli witch.
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Old 2021-01-18, 20:50   Link #4
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I would have to side with the Russi Federation because their technology is so far ahead of what the other countries had during the 1920s because they had to rely solely on science and technology since magic is prohibited in their country.

In the Youjo Senki movie that I watched, the the Russi Federation already had the weapons that I listed such as the aluminum planes and tanks with sloping armor and suspension which none of the other countries had at the time.

This, along with their superior numbers places them at an overwhelming advantage over the Empire which relies entirely on its mages as its sole offensive weapon.

Mages are limited in number because they are rare people with special abilities while all of the weapons I mentioned can be mass produced in factories at an innumerable quantity.
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Old 2021-01-19, 13:13   Link #5
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Well, it's just like in the anime and in real life, can't beat Russia in a prolonged land war.

Empire has to do anime protagonist-esque things, risky special operations like assassinating the top brass, inciting enemy territories to revolt, sabotage and stealing technology, and so on in order to have a chance.
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Old 2021-02-23, 23:10   Link #6
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Well, it's just like in the anime and in real life, can't beat Russia in a prolonged land war.

Empire has to do anime protagonist-esque things, risky special operations like assassinating the top brass, inciting enemy territories to revolt, sabotage and stealing technology, and so on in order to have a chance.
That is true, Russia is just too powerful to defeat in a direct confrontation.

Indirect methods like the ones you mentioned may be the only way that the Empire can have even a small chance of winning against the Russians.
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