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Old 2017-03-20, 16:09   Link #16121
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That's definitely possible. If Shido was three year old when Mio said that I can see those words being used to reassure him that nothing would change even with the birth of Mana.

After all, kids of that age tend to worry that their parents would love the new child more than them.
Hey, I think I get the part where Mio tells someone her name now. She's not talking to Shido, she's talking to the unborn Mana. Mom's do like talking to the baby before it's born after all.
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Old 2017-03-20, 17:31   Link #16122
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Found a blog with full summary but basically

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Old 2017-03-20, 17:35   Link #16123
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Found a blog with full summary but basically

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Holy fuck . That's what I would call a mind-raping scenario.
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Old 2017-03-20, 17:39   Link #16124
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Dude... you're such a tease.
Also, what a slaughter... Not even Steins Gate and Re:Zero now. I guess Ellen got a huge power-up with Marin- ups... I mean, Nibelcone.
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Old 2017-03-20, 17:43   Link #16125
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Does this summary clarify the situation with Reine?
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Old 2017-03-20, 17:51   Link #16126
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^^ It's annoying having ads pop up every few seconds, using my phone btw, here's the site though.

^ Yes, it says the cliffhanger ends with Reine=Phantom reveal.
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Old 2017-03-20, 17:52   Link #16127
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^^ It's annoying having ads pop up every few seconds, using my phone btw, here's the site though.

^ Yes, it says the cliffhanger ends with Reine=Phantom reveal.
A-ha! Thank you!
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Old 2017-03-20, 17:54   Link #16128
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^^ It's annoying having ads pop up every few seconds, using my phone btw, here's the site though.

^ Yes, it says the cliffhanger ends with Reine=Phantom reveal.
So does that also mean Reine/Phantom=Mio/First Spirit too, or is that still a bit ambiguous at the moment?
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Old 2017-03-20, 17:58   Link #16129
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So does that also mean Reine/Phantom=Mio/First Spirit too, or is that still a bit ambiguous at the moment?
From what I can tell, it's not confirmed 100% (I don't think?) but it's made rather obvious that there has only ever been one entity giving out Sephirah Crystals - Mio.
So it's not stated (yet), but you're meant to read that Reine is Mio, from what I can tell. It'll likely be confirmed next volume.
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Old 2017-03-20, 18:13   Link #16130
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From what I can tell, it's not confirmed 100% (I don't think?) but it's made rather obvious that there has only ever been one entity giving out Sephirah Crystals - Mio.
So it's not stated (yet), but you're meant to read that Reine is Mio, from what I can tell. It'll likely be confirmed next volume.
I hope they confirm it, because with all the hints that Reine is Shido and Mana's mother, confirming Mio is Reine will finally explain where Mio stands in the Takamiya family.

Speaking of which, has anyone noticed that whenever Shido and Mana's forgotten family is mentioned, it's always ONLY their mother that gets mentioned, IIRC their father has never been brought up at all. Considering Shido and Mana's amnesia, that's doubly weird why he seems like an extra not worth mentioning.
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Old 2017-03-20, 18:19   Link #16131
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What is the reason behing that illustration with "adult" Kotori and Yoshino at her side?
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Old 2017-03-20, 18:20   Link #16132
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A bit off-topic, but...

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Old 2017-03-20, 18:22   Link #16133
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What is the reason behing that illustration with "adult" Kotori and Yoshino at her side?
Kurumi's third bullet - Gimmel - ages the target. I don't know why she used it on them, though.
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Old 2017-03-20, 18:27   Link #16134
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Speaking of which, has anyone noticed that whenever Shido and Mana's forgotten family is mentioned, it's always ONLY their mother that gets mentioned, IIRC their father has never been brought up at all. Considering Shido and Mana's amnesia, that's doubly weird why he seems like an extra not worth mentioning.
Well, ther are some theories, but whoever the father is, Westcott probably knows more than we do in the moment. Don't forget what he said back in Vol.7 or S2 EP.10.
So there will be a time where it will matter who the father exactly is.
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Old 2017-03-20, 18:31   Link #16135
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Kurumi's third bullet - Gimmel - ages the target. I don't know why she used it on them, though.
Thanks, that make sense.

On another topic, since this volume ends with Phantom/Reine/Mio reveal, I assume the next one if basically the all-out battle against Wescott plus getting Kurumi.

How many volumes you guys think there are left? My best bet is one or 2 at best after the end of this arc.
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Old 2017-03-20, 18:33   Link #16136
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Thanks, that make sense.

On another topic, since this volume ends with Phantom/Reine/Mio reveal, I assume the next one if basically the all-out battle against Wescott plus getting Kurumi.

How many volumes you guys think there are left? My best bet is one or 2 at best after the end of this arc.
I remember hearing a theory that based on the lines showing a scene important to each volume that they represent the lines that connect the Sephirot circles, so that reaches 22 Volumes.
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Old 2017-03-20, 18:33   Link #16137
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Thanks, that make sense.

On another topic, since this volume ends with Phantom/Reine/Mio reveal, I assume the next one if basically the all-out battle against Wescott plus getting Kurumi.

How many volumes you guys think there are left? My best bet is one or 2 at best after the end of this arc.
I maintain my estimate of 22 Volumes by the end, I think.
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Old 2017-03-20, 18:37   Link #16138
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I maintain my estimate of 22 Volumes by the end, I think.
I wonder who'll appear on the last 6 volumes? Inverse Kurumi's all but confirmed for Volume 17, the remaining 5 could be anything though.

It wouldn't be enough for the remaining Inverse forms though since two wouldn't get to show on them, which is probably the reason why Inverse Yoshino was in the art book.
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Old 2017-03-20, 19:42   Link #16139
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I hope they confirm it, because with all the hints that Reine is Shido and Mana's mother, confirming Mio is Reine will finally explain where Mio stands in the Takamiya family.

Speaking of which, has anyone noticed that whenever Shido and Mana's forgotten family is mentioned, it's always ONLY their mother that gets mentioned, IIRC their father has never been brought up at all. Considering Shido and Mana's amnesia, that's doubly weird why he seems like an extra not worth mentioning.
a common theory is that Woodman is Shidou and Mana's father and that the first spirit is their mother. Woodman loved the first spirit and he also has the same ability as Shidou to seal spirits.
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Old 2017-03-20, 19:44   Link #16140
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I wonder who'll appear on the last 6 volumes? Inverse Kurumi's all but confirmed for Volume 17, the remaining 5 could be anything though.

It wouldn't be enough for the remaining Inverse forms though since two wouldn't get to show on them, which is probably the reason why Inverse Yoshino was in the art book.
Being realistic, the others are highly unlikely to inverse at this point.

Mio'll get a cover, that much is obvious. Shido'll get another if he becomes Da'ath, I expect. Tohka's bound to get another, too. As for the others...? Not sure. More repeats, like Inverse Tohka and Kurumi, maybe.

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a common theory is that Woodman is Shidou and Mana's father and that the first spirit is their mother. Woodman loved the first spirit and he also has the same ability as Shidou to seal spirits.
Exactly this. Considering the other commonly-held theory - Reine is Phantom - was true, I wouldn't be overly critical of this one, either.
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