The Syria Crisis

[Ithekro]

Note that they never mention what the other proposal from the Pentagon was at all in that article.

[Jaden]

Yeah I don't even know what's real right now, some sources saying the attack is already underway.

http://ktla.com/2017/04/06/u-s-launc...nment-targets/ also reported on nbc, fox, etc.

Hoping from the bottom of my heart that it is actual fake news this time, but it looks like a traitor might have to get lynched.

edit: Yeah it's real. Fuck me for ever having given nods to Trump, and I did it mainly because I'm against this kind of interventionism.

[Wigwams]

CNN and BBC are reporting american air strikes on syrian arifields.

[Roger Rambo]

Hold onto your butts people. Depending on whether or not any Russian personal got hit, things could get interesting uncomfortably fast.

[Wigwams]

i wonder how kim kong un is reacting to this. he knows he is probably a few launches away from getting the same treatment from trump.

[Ithekro]

Well it is a return to the days when the US has a line you don't cross. You cross it, we blow stuff up.

[MrTerrorist]

Looks like Assad got overconfident thinking Trump wanting a better relationship with their ally Russia meant there will be no reprisals from the US in any action he does in the Civil War. Now the chemical attack he launched might be the one to destroy his regime.

[KiraYamatoFan]

Originally Posted by Ithekro

Well it is a return to the days when the US has a line you don't cross. You cross it, we blow stuff up.

Very much this. The biggest gripe (and there were not that many though) I had with Obama was his lack of ruthlessness on the Syrian question although he arguably had a stronger case (1,400 dead back then if the estimates were right) and a stronger group of allies to take action than Trump does now.

Originally Posted by MrTerrorist

Looks like Assad got overconfident thinking Trump wanting a better relationship with their ally Russia meant there will be no reprisals from the US in any action he does in the Civil War. Now the chemical attack he launched might be the one to destroy his regime.

In the category of most stupid moves in the context of a war, Assad wins the big prize for 2017. I never had sympathy for the guy, and I shall not have any now. No matter what Assad or Russia will claim, it is just plain stupid. Now they will reap what Assad sowed himself.

[Roger Rambo]

Originally Posted by MrTerrorist

Looks like Assad got overconfident thinking Trump wanting a better relationship with their ally Russia meant there will be no reprisals from the US in any action he does in the Civil War. Now the chemical attack he launched might be the one to destroy his regime.

Mind. The Trump admin was sending some mixed signals about that.

[Cosmic Eagle]

Originally Posted by Jaden

Yeah I don't even know what's real right now, some sources saying the attack is already underway.

http://ktla.com/2017/04/06/u-s-launc...nment-targets/ also reported on nbc, fox, etc.

Hoping from the bottom of my heart that it is actual fake news this time, but it looks like a traitor might have to get lynched.

edit: Yeah it's real. Fuck me for ever having given nods to Trump, and I did it mainly because I'm against this kind of interventionism.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ke/100149890/#


Then again, if he restrains himself beyond this, Trump may win brownie points for deterring further chemical strikes and keeping further complications to a minimum; a balanced compromise

[Akito Kinomoto]

Well, calling this awkward would be a severe underestimation of the situation. To not escalate this situation was one of the few positive points about Trump, but that position can't hold from somebody without the intellectual capacity to interact with people on the world stage. And regardless of his own core values, he's impressionable enough that the last echo in the room would catalyze what he does moving forward

[monir]

Originally Posted by Jaden

edit: Yeah it's real. Fuck me for ever having given nods to Trump, and I did it mainly because I'm against this kind of interventionism.

Trump hate club is in overcapacity so no new invitation are given out.

Good for Trump and his supporters. Depending on how he plays this he might raise his national standing and might even start a war with Russia which was one of the reason some folks didn't vote for the hawkish Hilary.

I still approve the strike on the airfield and will thoroughly enjoy the panic it might cause to some of the Trump voters who will be ruing the implications in the coming days.

[Key Board]

North Korea might be next
make both Russia and China nervous
what could go wrong

[Sheba]

Originally Posted by monir

might even start a war with Russia which was one of the reason some folks didn't vote for the hawkish Hilary.

Oh yeah, the mental gymnastics those made with "Trump might not do everything he promised." and "Hillary will do everything we suspect she might do, judging from her past record."

[Gan_HOPE326]

Originally Posted by James Rye

But it's not like we don't have such situations today, just think of the "green men" on Crimea or yesterday's US missle attack on a Syria military airport, both were unilateral and not in accordance with international law, but it's not like either side cared about that, they cared about the political/power gain they can get from such actions.

Yeah, I swear, I heard someone defending Trump's intervention as a means of getting one over the Democrats so now they won't be able to veto his Supreme Court candidates any more. Like that makes his complete (and predictable) 180 on the topic better... the one thing that shows like YS get me to is feel frankly sorry for those who are in the military and have to put up with this shit, like, I can understand feeling like you want to put your life in the line for the safety of your country, but I frankly couldn't do that unless it was an "enlist to defend from the enemy invasion that's happening RIGHT NOW" situation. Most of the times you'll just be sent around the world to die or kill in the name of some asshole wanting to score political points, how the fuck can you actually feel invested in risking your own life as well as living with the guilt of having ended other lives for something as trivial as that.

[Cosmic Eagle]

Originally Posted by Sheba

Oh yeah, the mental gymnastics those made with "Trump might not do everything he promised." and "Hillary will do everything we suspect she might do, judging from her past record."

http://www.businessinsider.com/trump...IR=T&r=US&IR=T

She would have done the same...by her own words

[Applehell]

Okay after reading this more, I'm of two minds. As a response to Assad's recent inhumane actions it was apporiapate surprisingly measured for Trump. Especially after Assad had just lied about dislosing of his chemical weapons.

On the otherhand the procedures and method bring about this action like everything Trump does leaves a worrying predecessor. No word to Congress, the U.N Security Council, other U.S. allies or various departments in the government. At least when Obama pushed for same thing back in 2013 he through the proper channels for it and keep a level of shared responiblity.

Frankly I have no faith in Trump handling this situation delicately which is why I'm still worried what might happen next, but as anti-Trump as I am this one of very few good things I feel he's done. Maybe it have an unexpected side effect of curbing some fuckery going down in N.Korea.

[tiatiu]

Originally Posted by Gan_HOPE326

Yeah, I swear, I heard someone defending Trump's intervention as a means of getting one over the Democrats so now they won't be able to veto his Supreme Court candidates any more. Like that makes his complete (and predictable) 180 on the topic better... the one thing that shows like YS get me to is feel frankly sorry for those who are in the military and have to put up with this shit, like, I can understand feeling like you want to put your life in the line for the safety of your country, but I frankly couldn't do that unless it was an "enlist to defend from the enemy invasion that's happening RIGHT NOW" situation. Most of the times you'll just be sent around the world to die or kill in the name of some asshole wanting to score political points, how the fuck can you actually feel invested in risking your own life as well as living with the guilt of having ended other lives for something as trivial as that.

i watch cnn arent this attack caused by sarin gas attack used by syrian goverment so trump launching misslle to hit only in the airport and trump got both party support and the only complain is they want the congress to vote before the attack

and isnt this problem caused and pushed because both democrats and media want it they attack trump so much all this time to attack syria and russia
democrats senator even said russian hack is an act of war and want trump to retaliate to prove he is not putin dog

[Gan_HOPE326]

Originally Posted by tiatiu

i watch cnn arent this attack caused by sarin gas attack used by syrian goverment so trump launching misslle to hit only in the airport and trump got both party support and the only complain is they want the congress to vote before the attack

Well, that's the purported reason... personally, seeing what happened in Iraq, I think this is freaking stupid. They have no plan, they only risk making a mess, then hurriedly pull out leaving a power vacuum that will be filled by some even more dangerous asshole. Even if the whole of Congress agrees it doesn't mean it's a smart thing to do, the US keep going on with this policy of "fire first, think later" and it keeps biting them in the ass since freakin' Vietnam.

[GDB]

The biggest issue is that there's still questions about whether Assad was actually responsible or not. And rather than getting to the bottom of things, he just launched missiles.