Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood General Discussion

[Mystique]

As Shiroth brought to light for me, this forum doesn't have a specific 'music discussion' thread like the Eden of the East - Music discussion (OP/ED & OST, etc.)

So I'll post my news here, although I'm sure Shiroth and the rest of you have already discussed over it, for anyone who has yet to catch on alike me, then this is an update for ya
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Was trying to find the generic 'music related' thread, but going onto page two here, there's a hell of a lot of fun threads here that are locked O.o!!!?
Anyways, I'll post latest news that's popped on by about the next season's OP and ED, slightly old, pardon the lateness

Spoiler for jp info:

7月12日放送予定の第15話からいよいよ「新章」に突入する「鋼FA」第2クールの
オープニング、エンディングアーティストと曲名が決定しました！！

新オープニングテーマ
NICO Touches the Walls／「ホログラム」
04年、光村龍哉（Vo.G）、古村大介(Ｇ)、坂倉心悟（Ｂ）、対馬祥太郎（Ｄ）の
4人（全員1985年生まれ）でバンド結成。関東を拠点にライヴ活動を開始。
圧倒的なライヴパフォーマンスと秀逸なメロディーを持つ楽曲群が瞬く間に話題
となり、インディーズながら数々の大型フェスに出演する。08年2月、
キューンレコードより待望のメジャー・シングルデビュー、赤坂ブリッツ
2daysを含む初の全国ツアーは即日ソールドアウト。
今年最も目の離せないロック・ルーキー。

新エンディングテーマ
福原美穂／「LET IT OUT」
北海道出身の22歳。
15歳の時に地元のテレビ番組出演がきっかけで道内のみでインディーズ盤を
リリースする。デビュー前に訪れたＬＡの黒人教会にてアジア人として初めて
パフォーマンスを披露し、“奇跡の子！”と賞賛を受け、その歌声の持つ力が
話題となる。08年4月に「CHANGE」でデビュー。au「LISMO」CMソングや
TBSドラマ「SCANDAL」の主題歌、花王「アジエンス」のCMソングなどを担当し
異例の新人として話題をさらい、09年1月に1stアルバム「RAINBOW」を
リリースし、オリコン初登場2位をマーク。初の全国ワンマンツアーは
即日SOLD OUTとなった。

The Opening will be sung by NICO Touches the Walls with the title being "hologram".
The Eding will be sung by Miho Fukuhara with the title being LET IT OUT
Both tunes will switch over on July 12th (Episode 15)

Manga peeps may already have ideas of what this may represent or the montage that's likely to follow otherwise, I'm kinda curious and remain kinda intriugied until a trailer arrives ^^
Can keep tabs on the artists on here

To get a feel on Miho's kind of music (FMA2's version of Crystal Kay perhaps, for the urban/soul kinda feel?)
check out her video here

Listening to this tune, I may become a fan to her stuff. She's an amazing singer giving her voice, pitch, emotion and range. ^^

edit:
oh?
Seems we've not heard the last of SID.
If you like their stuff, they'll be providing the theme tune for the Wii game "Prince of the Dawn" that comes out in August 13th, entitled 'Drama' - so lots more to come from them soon. ^^

[duckroll]

Erm, I already posted this info in this same thread last week....

[Shiroth]

Originally Posted by duckroll

Erm, I already posted this info in this same thread last week....

Mystique already knows. I told him/her.

[Mystique]

Originally Posted by duckroll

Erm, I already posted this info in this same thread last week....

Do read the first paragraph on my post, old news bring brought to light, but I had posted it in the music ID thread (for lack of a generic music one)
Shiroth said you guys hashed over it here, but there are still some of us who jump on the bandwagon a little late
I didn't catch the news in this thread, kinda got lost in the sea of things >.>
DW, I'm not stealing your thunder or anything like that

[duckroll]

Ah, okay I see what you mean, sorry. Yeah we kinda lack proper threads for certain things for FMA:B, so a lot of news gets spread between the General thread and the Spoilers thread these days. :/

[Kirarakim]

I am not exactly sure if this is the right thread for this but I think it is the best fit.

I've been thinking of how to compare the difference between the first FMA series and the FMA manga (the storyline being adapted by Brotherhood).

The first FMA really did go more for the emotional/dramatic pull. Not that there isn't drama in the manga and therefore Brotherhood but the dramatic moments are not it's main thing (and no it's not the SD comedy either).

Now it might be hard to tell from the 1st 14 episodes but trust me if you were up to the current part of the manga you would understand. The manga storyline might not be as dramatic but it's certainly epic in ways the first series did not even come close to. I certainly hope Brotherhood will be able to capture this.

[BetoJR]

So do I, my friend, so do I.

As for me, my hopes are still set pretty high for this series. I mean, honestly, it beats the old one by and large in terms of animation and action scenes, at least so far.

[Rawr:3]

From how I see the anime is progressing, it seems like it's heading towards a more, following manga direction. Much more similar to the manga. As if it continues the plot from the actual plot in the manga, after they meet up with Izumi.

I hope the anime can pull it off. The manga gets a bit confusing and since the anime doesn't really show the first few arcs before meeting their master, they might have to wrap everything up in some way T_T.

Either way, glad to see it to be different from the first series

PS. First post in this subforum Hajimemashite everyone!

[Vicious108]

Originally Posted by Rawr:3

From how I see the anime is progressing, it seems like it's heading towards a more, following manga direction. Much more similar to the manga. As if it continues the plot from the actual plot in the manga, after they meet up with Izumi.

Of course it is, that's the whole point of this series.

As for FMA1 vs Brotherhood comparisons... Well I gave 8/10 as my final rating for FMA1, but so far I wouldn't give Brotherhood more than a 7/10 so I'm afraid that as it is I like the old series better still.

Of course there'll always be unlimited potential for Brotherhood to surpass it as long as they do things right, since I consider its source material, the FMA manga, to be a 10/10.

[Rawr:3]

Originally Posted by Endless Twilight

Of course it is, that's the whole point of this series.

Oh really? Lol. Didn't know that ^^;;

[Vicious108]

Yeah the basic premise of Brotherhood is to be a FMA anime that follows the manga. If they weren't gonna do that there'd be no need for it since we already have one FMA anime unfaithful to the manga.

[duckroll]

http://www.sonymusic.co.jp/Music/Arch/ARI/sukimaswitch/

Looks like the third OP for FMA:B will be by Sukima Switch. The title of the song is Golden Time Lover.

[Shiroth]

Still nothing regarding a soundtrack release.

[duckroll]

Originally Posted by Shiroth

Still nothing regarding a soundtrack release.

I hear it's coming in October as well.

[Reticia]

Originally Posted by duckroll

http://www.sonymusic.co.jp/Music/Arch/ARI/sukimaswitch/

Looks like the third OP for FMA:B will be by Sukima Switch. The title of the song is Golden Time Lover.

Won't it be the ED ? It fits their style better.

[AddiKtioNn-BlaCk]

My problem with the anime (haven't read the manga yet) is that I don't feel like they help people understand the emotions and different views. In the recent episodes, really the whole anime, I feel like they prioritize another peoples' suffering over another, therefore making what they stand for more right. Like Scar's view and Edward & Al's view, people would agree that Ed & Al were right in their view of things because their views and sufferings are prioritzed. Now I understand that they are the main characters and everything n the fact its a manga, so naturally its going to lean more towards the main character. But I feel like with a popular anime tha Fullmetal is, they help people understand the situation because it goes in real life. Instead of saying (directly or indirectly) these people suffering is greater than the other people. The reason why I say this is because in the 2 or 3 episodes we saw the slaughter of Scar's people then we see the murder of Winry's parents. Now we have people sympathizing with Winry more so than Scar, therefore making Ed & Al's view more "righteous" instead of understanding the cycle of war and peace/hatred and love/chaos and order.

Maybe I'm just going deeper than necessary but I felt like pointing it out. Aside from that its a good anime (obviously because I watch it lol), nice creativity and etc. But its just that one thing that kinda bothers me.

[Haladflire65]

^ Well, FMA is a shounen, and it has some shounen elements in it. That's probably what it is - things always need to lean towards the 'good' protagonist kids. But it does so much less than other shounen mangas and animes, which is why FMA's the only shounen I like.

[Kirarakim]

Originally Posted by AddiKtioNn-BlaCk

My problem with the anime (haven't read the manga yet) is that I don't feel like they help people understand the emotions and different views. In the recent episodes, really the whole anime, I feel like they prioritize another peoples' suffering over another, therefore making what they stand for more right. Like Scar's view and Edward & Al's view, people would agree that Ed & Al were right in their view of things because their views and sufferings are prioritzed. Now I understand that they are the main characters and everything n the fact its a manga, so naturally its going to lean more towards the main character. But I feel like with a popular anime tha Fullmetal is, they help people understand the situation because it goes in real life. Instead of saying (directly or indirectly) these people suffering is greater than the other people. The reason why I say this is because in the 2 or 3 episodes we saw the slaughter of Scar's people then we see the murder of Winry's parents. Now we have people sympathizing with Winry more so than Scar, therefore making Ed & Al's view more "righteous" instead of understanding the cycle of war and peace/hatred and love/chaos and order.

Maybe I'm just going deeper than necessary but I felt like pointing it out. Aside from that its a good anime (obviously because I watch it lol), nice creativity and etc. But its just that one thing that kinda bothers me.

Since this is talking about events in episode 22 I assume this should be in the specific episode thread.

But I will say I completely disagree with your views on the point of the scene, especially if you pay attention to why Scar did what he did.

[AddiKtioNn-BlaCk]

Originally Posted by Kirarakim

Since this is talking about events in episode 22 I assume this should be in the specific episode thread.

Yeah even though I am, and the episodes after, this is the proper thread because similar situations will happen later on in the anime most likely. So if that's the case, I think its a appropriate to discuss this in the General discussion of the anime instead of waiting for episode after episode after episode.

Originally Posted by Kirarakim

But I will say I completely disagree with your views on the point of the scene, especially if you pay attention to why Scar did what he did.

Yes I did pay attention to why he did what he did, its called PTSD. If you're a person who think that Winry shooting Scar would be justified and/or righteous or anything like that. Then you should, unless you're just being obnoxious, think Scar is justified in his actions for killing Amestrians for killing his people.

My whole point/complaint is that I feel that in real life with war and etc. going on, this manga being as popular as it is, could help people understanding the emotions behind these kind of situations. Its not even a complaint really, its just something that I felt like putting out there, I understand its just a manga, and it being a manga, it has to make the star characters seem like the good guys.

[Kirarakim]

Originally Posted by AddiKtioNn-BlaCk

Yeah even though I am, and the episodes after, this is the proper thread because similar situations will happen later on in the anime most likely. So if that's the case, I think its a appropriate to discuss this in the General discussion of the anime instead of waiting for episode after episode after episode.

Well it spoils something in episode 22. What if someone checks out this thread who has not seen episode 22 yet. I guess it's not a big deal but that is what I was thinking which is why I did not go into further detail on why I disagreed with you.

Yes I did pay attention to why he did what he did, its called PTSD. If you're a person who think that Winry shooting Scar would be justified and/or righteous or anything like that. Then you should, unless you're just being obnoxious, think Scar is justified in his actions for killing Amestrians for killing his people.

My whole point/complaint is that I feel that in real life with war and etc. going on, this manga being as popular as it is, could help people understanding the emotions behind these kind of situations. Its not even a complaint really, its just something that I felt like putting out there, I understand its just a manga, and it being a manga, it has to make the star characters seem like the good guys.

Spoiler for Episode 22:

Quite honesty I only see the comparison of Scar & Winry in the fact that they both want revenge. Their actual situations are actually quite different.

Winry knows Scar killed her parents (although she does not know the circumstances that he was temporarily insane.)

You said Scar is killing state alchemists because they killed his people. But did Ed kill his people? Ed might be a state alchemist but he is completely innocent of what happened. Scar is involving innocent people in his revenge. And I don't think there is anything righteous about his crusade.

Although that being said the series is not saying that Winry's revenge is more righteous than Scar's revenge. The series is consistent in saying that killing out of revenge is always wrong. Whether it is Scar or Winry. And you will see this theme explored further.