2010-12-13, 18:42 | Link #2323 |
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How is that an exaggeration? You forget that Shichika had initially rejected Hiteihime from accompanying him, but Hiteihime seemed insistent and Shichika then just abides with it. Simply because Hiteihime is allowed to join Shichika on his map journey and those "roles" became established doesn't mean anything "romantic" is going to evolve from it. Any possibility of it is hypothetical and is derived purely from speculation of the viewer, seeing as we have no definite way of knowing what happens beyond that point. In canon there is nothing to indicate any potential "romance" happening between them. They each have their own "important" people already anyway, even despite that they've died.
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2010-12-13, 18:47 | Link #2324 | |
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2010-12-13, 19:18 | Link #2325 | |
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2010-12-13, 19:21 | Link #2326 | |
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Personally, I think it could easily go either way. They're both pretty young afterall. Besides, people lose loved ones all the time. It doesn't stop them from eventually finding someone else to love. It's also not uncommon for people to eventually develop feelings for those they initially feel nothing towards. So if it only took Shichika a year to develop feelings for Togame, who's to say he couldn't eventually come to love Hiteihime (albeit for different reasons) assuming he continues to journey with her and protect her over a prolonged period of time? On the other hand, I suppose it's just as likely that Shichika never develops feelings for her, or they go their separate ways, or they both die in a ditch 10 minutes into the course of their new journey. Last edited by sayde; 2010-12-13 at 19:32. |
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2010-12-13, 21:01 | Link #2327 |
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The word Koma(駒) Togame repeats in Ep.12
During the dialogue between Togame and Shichika in Ep.12, Togame uses the word koma(駒) many times. As a Japanese, I associate it with a shogi(Japanese chess) piece instantly, especially remembering ep.9 where they visited Tendo and Togame played shogi games against Zanki. Shogi pieces are often used as the metaphor of sacrifice for someone or loyal subordinates without being allowed to have their own will in Japanese language. So I think it's skillful that someone translated it into a "pawn" (on the board) which at least makes you think of a Western chess piece.
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2010-12-13, 21:18 | Link #2328 | |
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2010-12-13, 22:22 | Link #2329 | |
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That's how he found out who she really was and, in turn, why he had to kill her, since it made it obvious that her plan was to seek bloody revenge for her father. (Although, uh, why did they kill her? We know the Shogun didn't order it, because he didn't even know she was dead. And Princess Hitei had no reason to order Emon to kill her, since they both had the same goal -- killing the Shogun and destroying the Shogunate.) Also, am I the only person who loved Saraba Kousha, the little girl (or was it a boy?) 'wielding' Seitou Hakari? "This thing is kind of useless..." Amusingly, it seems like she's the only one who survived, assuming she wasn't killed when the palace was punched in half. Last edited by Aquillion; 2010-12-13 at 22:43. |
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2010-12-13, 23:06 | Link #2330 | |
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And you're not alone. That whole scene with her was just so silly.
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2010-12-14, 00:54 | Link #2332 | |
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Doesn't matter who he killed, I don't think there's a bounty large enough in all of Japan to get anyone to go after him. |
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2010-12-14, 01:52 | Link #2333 | ||
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In fact, I'd argue that Shichika proved so incredibly skillful and powerful that it almost seems like there'd be relatively no difference between the amount of energy he'd have to exert to walk around Japan freely, or walk around Japan fending off hundreds of guys on a daily basis in the process. He seems THAT strong. And with him having destroyed the only gun in his time, he effectively eliminated the only weapon that posed any real threat to him. On another note, I think the only battle that didn't make much sense to me was the defeat of Akutou Bita. I think the exact words Shichika used was Quote:
The thing is, if Akutou Bita prevents one from dying, then it should be impossible for Shichika to have killed Uron once, much less 272 times. I feel like there's something (really simple) to this logic I can't seem to stop overlooking. The fight would've made more sense to me if Akutou Bita had simply been pulled from out of his chest before Uron was defeated. *edit* Things make more sense when I stop thinking about these swords as supernatural entities and instead look at them from a more scientific point of view as shichi-chan did here. |
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2010-12-14, 02:36 | Link #2334 | |
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Rumor has it that Shichika's mom is a guro-con. Whenever there are deaths and stuff she would be the first to the scene. She was also extremely beautiful (lol), but when men proposed to her, she would asked 'em to let them see their insides (organs and intestines), Shichika's dad was the only one who instantly cut open his own stomach (what?) during his proposal and she married him then. Apparently, Togame's dad also sent a Maniwa ninja after her, and she bit a chunk of flesh off him or something. This sounds 100% more interesting than Nanami lol. Speaking of which, I would KILL for some BR scripts on these stuff <__<, cause apparently Shichika's dad had like 6 personalities or something. |
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2010-12-14, 02:51 | Link #2335 | |
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2010-12-14, 04:37 | Link #2336 |
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Ok, question. Emonzaemon stated several times that he is not a great fighter. He always turned to his guns in order to defeat the Maniwani, seeing they were more skilled than him. Yet in the final episode he lasts an entire minute of exchanging blows with Shichika and even managed to do permenant scars on him. How the heck did he found the power to fight so well when all others before him dropped at seconds?
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2010-12-14, 05:37 | Link #2337 | |
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Not all that appealing to me though, so Nanami shall remain my favorite.
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2010-12-14, 06:20 | Link #2338 | |
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-The 12th deviant blade Jyuu was a very powerful weapon on it's own. (arguably one of the strongest in the entire set if you don't count Shichika himself.) -It was also the only remaining deviant blade Shichika had to face-off against that 1.) he didn't have much former experience fighting against 2.) was still being wielded by someone who was worthy of using it in the first place So the first part of their fight felt pretty plausible to me. It's easy to see why Shichika incurred the injuries he did. This leaves the final part of the fight. And while it does seem rather unbelievable for Emonzaemon to be able to keep up with Shichika in a fast flurry exchange of blows, we have to keep in mind that Emonzaemon was in perfect condition towards the end of their fight while Shichika sustained at least 8 gunshot wounds to his body. So it's nothing short of amazing for Shichika to be standing at all, much less showing no expressions of pain or fatigue. But despite that, I think it might be safe to assume the punishment he took may have still weakened him to the point of making his body move more sluggish than usual. In other words, those wounds may have leveled the playing field in Emonzaemons favor. To sum it up, I feel it was Entou Jyuu that paved the way for Emonzaemon to fight on par with Shichika towards the end of the battle. |
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