(L+CR) New Game!! (Season 2)

[EroBotan]

really, Yagami Kou?

An ANIME character designer want to improve herself -> go to French?????? Obviously there are only 2 place if you want to improve your anime character design skill, the 1st one is obviously Japan, followed by Korea. China is good but mostly still below Japan/Korea's level. I'm dreadful to think how her art is going to evolve in French .. maybe it's going to become tumblr-like with big nose? *shudder ...

[Random Wanderer]

Originally Posted by EroBotan

really, Yagami Kou?

An ANIME character designer want to improve herself -> go to French?????? Obviously there are only 2 place if you want to improve your anime character design skill, the 1st one is obviously Japan, followed by Korea. China is good but mostly still below Japan/Korea's level. I'm dreadful to think how her art is going to evolve in French .. maybe it's going to become tumblr-like with big nose? *shudder ...

...She's a video game character designer, though.

[BWTraveller]

Originally Posted by Random Wanderer

...She's a video game character designer, though.

Indeed. Japan is near the top for story-based games (which is probably why I love it, I have several games that I really just like because I love the story being told), but if you want to improve on other areas, there are better places to learn. Games from other regions have different priorities when they design a game. After becoming queen of game character design in her region, moving to a place that has a completely different set of priorities is probably indeed the best way to seek further self-improvement. Her Japanese peers are probably going to be focused on areas where she's really rather close to perfect, but people elsewhere might look at areas she hadn't even thought of where she still has plenty of room to grow.

[EroBotan]

Originally Posted by BWTraveller

Indeed. Japan is near the top for story-based games (which is probably why I love it, I have several games that I really just like because I love the story being told), but if you want to improve on other areas, there are better places to learn. Games from other regions have different priorities when they design a game. After becoming queen of game character design in her region, moving to a place that has a completely different set of priorities is probably indeed the best way to seek further self-improvement. Her Japanese peers are probably going to be focused on areas where she's really rather close to perfect, but people elsewhere might look at areas she hadn't even thought of where she still has plenty of room to grow.

Learning western style drawing is only going to ruin her skill. If she wants to take from a different perspective then Korea is the solution. Or if she really wants something different, Hong Kong's manhwa might work since the difference with anime is not that extreme. Road to perfection is long, so as an artist you really don't have time to walk on a different path. It will only delay your progress.

The one who can benefit from learning from the west is ahagon since she is a programmer.

Originally Posted by Random Wanderer

...She's a video game character designer, though.

her drawing style is anime though.

[BWTraveller]

Originally Posted by EroBotan

Learning western style drawing is only going to ruin her skill. If she wants to take from a different perspective then Korea is the solution. Or if she really wants something different, Hong Kong's manhwa might work since the difference with anime is not that extreme. Road to perfection is long, so as an artist you really don't have time to walk on a different path. It will only delay your progress.

The one who can benefit from learning from the west is ahagon since she is a programmer.


her drawing style is anime though.

"ruin her skill..." really? Some of the best animators in Japan drew a great deal of inspiration from American, Russian and other Western nations' famous works. True, if she forgets how to do anime style then she'll be in trouble. But like I said, there are aspects of characters that don't necessarily interfere with that style, but people who are looking at things from a purely story-driven, anime-style viewpoint are going to miss them, while people who were trained in a style that puts focus in other areas will notice them and suggest improvements that don't interfere with what's good. Yes, in Japan she could become the best anime-style character designer in Japan. With a little polishing in other nations, she could become one of the greatest and best-known designers in the world. I'm not talking about her learning to draw gritty or ugly American animations, I'm talking about her learning to put a few subtle tweaks into her characters that others wouldn't notice but would, when applied, raise them to a new level.

[EroBotan]

Originally Posted by BWTraveller

"ruin her skill..." really? Some of the best animators in Japan drew a great deal of inspiration from American, Russian and other Western nations' famous works. True, if she forgets how to do anime style then she'll be in trouble. But like I said, there are aspects of characters that don't necessarily interfere with that style, but people who are looking at things from a purely story-driven, anime-style viewpoint are going to miss them, while people who were trained in a style that puts focus in other areas will notice them and suggest improvements that don't interfere with what's good. Yes, in Japan she could become the best anime-style character designer in Japan. With a little polishing in other nations, she could become one of the greatest and best-known designers in the world. I'm not talking about her learning to draw gritty or ugly American animations, I'm talking about her learning to put a few subtle tweaks into her characters that others wouldn't notice but would, when applied, raise them to a new level.

western art quality has dropped drastically in these recent 5-10 years. Nothing to learn from them anymore. Anyway, this discussion is no longer about New Game so I'll end it here. Don't want to bother the others.

[BWTraveller]

Originally Posted by EroBotan

western art quality has dropped drastically in these recent 5-10 years. Nothing to learn from them anymore. Anyway, this discussion is no longer about New Game so I'll end it here. Don't want to bother the others.

Cool. And you won't get much argument from me about decline in quality since frankly I haven't liked the quality of animations or games from the West since probably the 90s. But again, even then, Western designers will be looking at things others ignored and thus help her to raise them to a new level of perfection.

Anyway, I'm kind of curious how New Game will proceed after this. It's a huge change for Aoba to go from basically an apprentice who can't even hope to rise to master/boss level because of her superior to the actual head of the department. Many stories would indeed end here, with the heroine having achieved the position she aspired to, wishing farewell to her former mentor/superior, and stepping forward with trepidation mixed with confidence that somehow she'll make things work. Sounds like this manga's not going to stop here though, and I'm curious how they'll progress with the heroine now going from trying to achieve her dream and make it a reality to trying to preserve and protect that reality while raising it to loftier heights. I don't know, it feels like if you saw the hero work his way up and slay the demon king and are then told that you're now going to watch as he dedicates the rest of his life to helping piece the world back together again.

[MeoTwister5]

OTP is now split. If we ever get a Season 3 I'd like to see how the remaining members of EJ go about their job minus their... uh... inspiring boss.

[Dextro]

Originally Posted by BWTraveller

I kind of saw it coming, but I was still happy to see Kou defy the publishers like that. And a good thing with her leaving like that. Not only did she give a good return to the publishers by announcing on stage in front of everyone just who was really responsible for the characters and a majority of the content, she also in a way helped the company out of what would've been a bit of a jam for them. Just like how the publishers didn't want to advertise with the name of a CD no one knows, they would be reluctant to invest all that much money in the next game if they didn't have a huge name like Kou to bring in an existing fanbase. But now the press knows who's really responsible, after the hype's built pretty well, and when the time comes for the next game to be made, Aoba's name will at least have some recognition. This will mean more security and greater investment from publishers, as well as greater confidence in placing Aoba's name prominently on the cover. Truly a great parting gift.

Kou did the job even better than that. She never flat out said that Aoba was the actual designer, she just mentioned they worked together on them (which is actually true) so people will probably think that Aoba helped Kou as a student instead of sharing equal billing.

This is actually better for the company and should still keep the publisher happy because now they can get Aoba on the next game with the tagline "student of the legendary designer Yagami Kou" which will probably work wonders for sales.

And, best of all, it's still technically true. All of it! The road to get there wasn't as straightforward as it gets painted but everything still works out at the end and everyone saves face. Sasuga Yagami-san!

Now onto the episode proper: I liked the episode, especially what they managed to do with Momo. She got to know the situation with Aoba through Hifumi and managed to correctly deduce the rest and even helped Aoba get proper closure with the Kou situation. If she keeps up she can reach top tier girl status. Hopefully we'll get some more New Game in the future so she can shine for a bit.

[BWTraveller]

Originally Posted by Dextro

Kou did the job even better than that. She never flat out said that Aoba was the actual designer, she just mentioned they worked together on them (which is actually true) so people will probably think that Aoba helped Kou as a student instead of sharing equal billing.

This is actually better for the company and should still keep the publisher happy because now they can get Aoba on the next game with the tagline "student of the legendary designer Yagami Kou" which will probably work wonders for sales.

And, best of all, it's still technically true. All of it! The road to get there wasn't as straightforward as it gets painted but everything still works out at the end and everyone saves face. Sasuga Yagami-san!

Now onto the episode proper: I liked the episode, especially what they managed to do with Momo. She got to know the situation with Aoba through Hifumi and managed to correctly deduce the rest and even helped Aoba get proper closure with the Kou situation. If she keeps up she can reach top tier girl status. Hopefully we'll get some more New Game in the future so she can shine for a bit.

Actually, I believe she said that Aoba did MOST of the character design. So it's a double. Yes, she's been identified as Kou's protégé, but above and beyond that she's also been given credit for personally creating the majority of the character content.

[Archon_Wing]

Nooo Kou gone. Who's gonna shock people with their panties now? Well, hopefully we can see her again by season 4 or something.

Fun stuff, though I feel the problem was the new characters came in too late and thus feel a bit rushed, and then Nene, Nene everywhere. Still nice to see Hifumi and Aoba grow as people into mature employees. And it seems Kou has been learning behind the scenes too even if we didn't see her much. I feel sorta bad for Rin though; what's she gonna do for the next few years? Buy a Rin pillow.

And of course, Mozuku. Cat needs more exercise.

Finally, the background music is sorely underrated, always liked it.

[Infinite Zenith]

We’ll likely be in for a bit of a wait for the soundtrack – the album for season one came out January of this year, and I’ve not heard anything about the second season's album as of yet. Hopefully, I’m not looking hard enough.

[Liddo-kun]

Watched the final episode today.

Kou wants to train and improve more abroad... a wise decision doing it while she's still a bit young. Everyone else seems to have matured more as well... Hifumi talks more now. Also surprised this went the same way as Hina Logi - what I mean is the addition of more yuri in the final eps.

Would watch again if there would be another season.

8/10

[videoman190]

Spoiler for A little NSFW:

NicoNico

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm30398819

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They are a little NSFW

[BWTraveller]

The first of those really needs to be put in an NSFW tag. Don't know what to think about the second. Funnily, I somehow stumbled on the original opening that the first song was from. Why would something like Devil Angel Djubril 4 have such a catchy and cute tune for their opening vid? And why is the opening vid for a series so fond of tentacles actually cleaner and more work-safe than this?

[blakstealth]

Just started season 2. God, I can't believe Aoba won the character design contest. Those characters are soooooooo cute! Man, the English dub is so comfy. Hearing Nenechi say "Yeaaahhh boiiii" is hilarious.

[Lukes YGO & WS on YT]

Spoiler for Episode 1:

Really happy to see this back again.

Not much has changed when it comes to the characters.

Still very funny.

Looking forward to watching the rest of this season.

Spoiler for Episode 2:

Nice opening and ending again.

Absorb the monsters and animals in the dungeon to and gain their special ability's, so the character is basically Kirby.

Very happy that Aoba & Kou were able to work together at the end there to create that new design.

Pretty funny though it was based on her bear sleeping bag.

Spoiler for Episode 3:

Another good episode.

That was funny watching Hifumi at the start.

Feel a bit sorry for Aoba as she wasn't able to contribute as much as she wanted to for her design.

Umiko & Nene get along quite well, both are working on a creature that breathes fire.

Spoiler for Episode 4:

Another good episode.

It was funny watching them all at the magical girl show.

Hifumi stood out a lot, nice to see how she has a lot more confidence now and can interact a lot better with people.

Rin got very jealous.

Umiko is a scary woman, lots of funny scenes with her.

Nice to see the project got good reviews.

Looking forward to watching the next episode.

Spoiler for Episode 5:

Another fun & enjoyable episode.

Hifumi is the least threatening boss ever, is was fun watching her try to do that job.

I always love watching evil Aoba.

Looking forward to watching the next episode.

Spoiler for Episode 6:

Good episode again.

It was unfortunate that they didn't select Aoba to do the key visuals but watching her work hard to submit something anyway was cool.

I was very impressed with what Yagami's work as usual.

Looking forward to watching the next episode.

Spoiler for Episode 7:

Nene actually did really well during that interview, looking forward to see more of her working at the company.

Nice to see some new character also.

That new ending was pretty good.

Spoiler for Episode 8:

Another enjoyable episode.

That cat maid outfit part was pretty entertaining.

Momo will be a good rival for Aoba, now just waiting to see what happens when she meets the evil/devil Aoba for the 1st time.

looking forward to watching the next episode.

Spoiler for Episode 9:

Those were some nice pictures of their younger selves.

What a bitch Naru is hating on Nene like that, serves her right getting that cold.

Hopefully Nene shows that she's there because she deserves to be in the upcoming episodes.

Spoiler for Episode 10:

Good episode.

Nene has her groove back and was nice to see her trying hard and smiling again.

Not sure about that hard mode though lol.

Haha classic Kou, I still remember the episode in the 1st season where Aoba walks in and both Kou & Rin are in their underwear.

That did look like a nice watch.

Spoiler for Episode 11:

Hooray for Nene & Narumi, it's all worked out between them.

Kou is leaving, that will be very sad for Rin and the other, though having seen her skill throughout these season you can understand if a giant company out there would want to hire her.

Hiding in haystacks, reminds me of Assassin's Creed.

The next episode is definitely going to be hard for Rin.

Spoiler for Episode 12 & Series Score:

Really sad to see a beloved member leave, can't blame Yagami though, she only wanted to improve and get better, nothing wrong with that.

Really nice moment there at the airport with everyone saying goodbye to her.

Aoba's rant was really funny.

Hope to see another season this, really enjoyed both and want to watch more.

8/10

[Infinite Zenith]

Originally Posted by blakstealth

Just started season 2. God, I can't believe Aoba won the character design contest. Those characters are soooooooo cute! Man, the English dub is so comfy. Hearing Nenechi say "Yeaaahhh boiiii" is hilarious.

Which episode is this? I’m real curious to see it for myself now!