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Myssa Rei · 2009-01-30, 02:18

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Originally Posted by Zenemis

I was spoiled, but man, it's like taking a Chainfist to the gut...

Or a bolter round to the face.

I'm well past Christmas Cake in status, so very little makes me tear up nowadays, but... Well, to say that the episode made me feel thoughtful for what seems to be a long time is an understatement. For all of the criticisms about the CLANNAD girls being plot devices more than characters, well, they sure do their roles well.

I think I need some time alone for a day.

kk2extreme · 2009-01-30, 02:21

this will make the saddest ep of the year

magnum · 2009-01-30, 02:29

Spoiler for for this episode:

I give this a perfect 10

davie · 2009-01-30, 03:10

I'm going to assume by reading some of the replies that something bad is going to happen. I heard Tomoya's Seiyu (I suddenly forgot his name!) did amazing job in this episode.

Vegard Aune · 2009-01-30, 03:40

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Originally Posted by Ithekro

The ED could have still been "Dango Daikazoku". How do you think you'd feel if that where the case?

I would have liked that WAY better, honestly. Ever since the actual After Story started, I've gradually come to hate the current ending due to how it keeps ruining the mood completely, and it was worse than ever this week. Actually, this is all making me wonder why I didn't hate Kaze no Tadoritsuku Basho, which was just as big a mood-killer...

Anyway, back to the episode...
I knew this was coming, yet that didn't make it any less heart-wrenching to actually see it. They really surpassed the "Goal"-scene in Air here, if you ask me, and that's pretty damn impressive. 10/10 for the episode, and as of right now, I also give the series itself a 10/10.

panzerfan · 2009-01-30, 03:47

Goal scene is pretty godawful when it comes to what it signified. In AIR TV, there's far less time allowed to achieve the buildup, but the audience receive no break when it comes to the last climax of that series. I remember being shellshocked by AIR since I marathoned the last 3 episodes in one shot (knowing the plot well in advance at that). Do not attempt this unless if you don't value your mental health much.

Ever since AIR TV, KyoAni seems to have eased off on taking the audience to an emotional trainwreak. To be honest, the reflection in Clannad I think is a deeper one than that of AIR and Kanon out of the gut-wrenching moments. I at least have not been totally reduced into a blabbering, incoherent dysfunctional husk by Clannad and Kanon...

Antenor · 2009-01-30, 03:52

Spoiler for this episode:

Tempester · 2009-01-30, 04:13

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Originally Posted by Ithekro

The ED could have still been "Dango Daikazoku". How do you think you'd feel if that where the case?

As I said in my earlier post, that would have been much better than the normal ending. In fact, the 2 seasons' endings should have been switched.

Torch is much better for keeping up with the comedy/light drama first season. Even after the sad parts, the song could have been played because the sad parts weren't of huge significance (like what happened in this episode).

On the other hand, Dango Daikazoku is perfect for After Story as it basically sums up the mood and theme of everything in After Story. It is also more downbeat and modest thus is very flexible for both those episodes that end happily and those that end sadly.

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Originally Posted by Antenor

Dango Daikazoku would have killed me! Being so closely associated with ***********, that tune would have destroyed what little was left of my spirits...

Better choice than keeping this upbeat sugar parade song.

KyoAni got their endings messed up.

Omniscient · 2009-01-30, 04:46

Geez, that was such a depressing episode. Like many of the people above, I hated that they kept the ED, but I still have to give the episode a 10/10 for how well KyoAni did it and how emotional it was.
More thoughts here.

cbatty · 2009-01-30, 04:54

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Originally Posted by panzerfan

Goal scene is pretty godawful when it comes to what it signified. In AIR TV, there's far less time allowed to achieve the buildup, but the audience receive no break when it comes to the last climax of that series. I remember being shellshocked by AIR since I marathoned the last 3 episodes in one shot (knowing the plot well in advance at that). Do not attempt this unless if you don't value your mental health much.

Ever since AIR TV, KyoAni seems to have eased off on taking the audience to an emotional trainwreak. To be honest, the reflection in Clannad I think is a deeper one than that of AIR and Kanon out of the gut-wrenching moments. I at least have not been totally reduced into a blabbering, incoherent dysfunctional husk by Clannad and Kanon...

Agreed - we have also taken much longer to get to know the characters in Clannad as opposed to the characters in Kanon and Air. I only finished watching Air recently - and I marathoned the whole series - well finished it off in a couple of days - with the final 4 in one sitting - yes, that was heart wrenching but it is nothing like the feeling I have for this episode - and I haven't even seen it yet... just the anticipation is painful.

cbatty · 2009-01-30, 04:55

AQS subs have just been posted... http://a.scarywater.net/aquastar/CLA...5D.avi.torrent

OmegaPhlare · 2009-01-30, 05:11

This is really the most amazing thing that I've ever seen. A part of me doesn't like the outcome of this episode, but I really understand that we need to keep going.

Spoiler for Episode; See It First!:

kamikazex · 2009-01-30, 05:16

man....words cant even describe how much that sucks.

Antenor · 2009-01-30, 05:31

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Originally Posted by Tempester

Better choice than keeping this upbeat sugar parade song.

KyoAni got their endings messed up.

I couldn't agree more on that.

I listened to Dango Daikazoku a few minutes ago... After seeing this episode, the soothing lullaby becomes an extremely sad and nostalgic song.

It fits this episode like a glove.

Haruyasha · 2009-01-30, 05:56

Jesus.. this was the worst episode I had ever seen from a Key anime..

How could they screw it up so badly? It's like watching a comedy show while induced on crack.

I've never actually seen anyone use unfitting music for those kind of scenes.. but let me say that I don't ever want to see anything like this ever again.

Poor music selection: It completely killed the mood. In fact, it felt like a mockery and an insult.

mit7059 · 2009-01-30, 05:58

W. T. F.

I'm so angry right now I can barely see straight. Why? Why? Why does every anime where they actually put effort into the story line decide, hey now we're going to crush your soul. Why would you do that? I don't understand, why can't there ever be a happy ending? Throughout all of Clannad I was pissed because I would have rather seen Tomoya with Tomoyo or Kyou but then in AS I actually really liked Nagisa and grew attached to the storyline.
wtf? WTF? WTF? WTF? WTF?

1/10 for ruining my day.

Skyfall · 2009-01-30, 06:33

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Originally Posted by Proto

Though I really don't remember what was the policy for episodes whose fansub has yet to be released bt whose RAW is already out.

This question just keeps popping up over time, doesn't it

For series that have a subforum, the answer is very simple - You venture inside an episode thread, you are expected to face content of said episode. There is little that is more redundant than venturing inside an episode 16 thread, and find a post spoiler tagged as "episode 16" or variations of that. Well ...duh ?

People are free to use spoiler tags if they wish so, of course, but episode 16 thread is expected to contain episode 16 content. Simple as that.

Myssa Rei · 2009-01-30, 06:33

Key adaptation. Many people expected it, but it still hits as hard as a power fist, doesn't it?

SidVicious · 2009-01-30, 06:36

This is just too sad.

magnum · 2009-01-30, 06:48

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Originally Posted by Myssa Rei

Key adaptation. Many people expected it, but it still hits as hard as a power fist to the face, doesn't it?

Indeed that's true, maybe too much.

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2009-01-30, 02:29	Link #43
magnum Lurking Around Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Phil.	Spoiler for for this episode: Too damn It, I couldn't stop crying out loud for nagisa. For the second time I cried for this series and movie. I started to cry at the start of her labor, giving birth to ushio. The episode totally a perfect drama for me. Help, I need more tissue here. I give this a perfect 10 __________________ My Anime List

2009-01-30, 03:10	Link #44
davie Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Seoul, Korea Age: 33	I'm going to assume by reading some of the replies that something bad is going to happen. I heard Tomoya's Seiyu (I suddenly forgot his name!) did amazing job in this episode. __________________

2009-01-30, 03:47	Link #46
panzerfan Name means little... Graphic Designer Join Date: Dec 2004	Goal scene is pretty godawful when it comes to what it signified. In AIR TV, there's far less time allowed to achieve the buildup, but the audience receive no break when it comes to the last climax of that series. I remember being shellshocked by AIR since I marathoned the last 3 episodes in one shot (knowing the plot well in advance at that). Do not attempt this unless if you don't value your mental health much. Ever since AIR TV, KyoAni seems to have eased off on taking the audience to an emotional trainwreak. To be honest, the reflection in Clannad I think is a deeper one than that of AIR and Kanon out of the gut-wrenching moments. I at least have not been totally reduced into a blabbering, incoherent dysfunctional husk by Clannad and Kanon... __________________ It would be enough for the depressing things in life to only exist in reality. It is because that I think the birth of a story... is from people dreaming of a happy ending. ~Misaka Shiori

2009-01-30, 05:11	Link #52
OmegaPhlare The Romanticism Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: San Jose, CA Age: 36	This is really the most amazing thing that I've ever seen. A part of me doesn't like the outcome of this episode, but I really understand that we need to keep going. Spoiler for Episode; See It First!: There was no other way, we must continue witness the true story of CLANNAD. With great sacrifice, there must be true purpose. Nagisa wanted to have this child no matter what; and that really says something about the human spirit. If she would have aborted this child so that she may live, then maybe the two of them would have continued to live in happiness. But that kind of view has to be incomplete, there must be something about child birth that makes it worth that risk, no matter what. Nagisa must have known this. Poor Tomoya, during the episode he questions himself and his actions. It really must be that tough to lose your most precious person.

2009-01-30, 02:21	Link #42
kk2extreme Your wife is hot... Join Date: May 2008 Location: At your house fixing A/C	this will make the saddest ep of the year

2009-01-30, 04:46	Link #49
Omniscient Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004	Geez, that was such a depressing episode. Like many of the people above, I hated that they kept the ED, but I still have to give the episode a 10/10 for how well KyoAni did it and how emotional it was. More thoughts here.

2009-01-30, 04:55	Link #51
cbatty Such is liff Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Brisbane, Australia Age: 51	AQS subs have just been posted... http://a.scarywater.net/aquastar/CLA...5D.avi.torrent

2009-01-30, 05:16	Link #53
kamikazex Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006	man....words cant even describe how much that sucks.

2009-01-30, 05:56	Link #55
Haruyasha 名前は？ Scanlator Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Washington Age: 35	Jesus.. this was the worst episode I had ever seen from a Key anime.. How could they screw it up so badly? It's like watching a comedy show while induced on crack. I've never actually seen anyone use unfitting music for those kind of scenes.. but let me say that I don't ever want to see anything like this ever again. Poor music selection: It completely killed the mood. In fact, it felt like a mockery and an insult.

2009-01-30, 05:58	Link #56
mit7059 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Austin, TX Age: 34	W. T. F. I'm so angry right now I can barely see straight. Why? Why? Why does every anime where they actually put effort into the story line decide, hey now we're going to crush your soul. Why would you do that? I don't understand, why can't there ever be a happy ending? Throughout all of Clannad I was pissed because I would have rather seen Tomoya with Tomoyo or Kyou but then in AS I actually really liked Nagisa and grew attached to the storyline. wtf? WTF? WTF? *WTF?* *WTF?* 1/10 for ruining my day. __________________ *If you can't dazzle them with brilliance baffle them with bullshit ~Coach Davids* More of a manga reader now than an anime watcher. Currently reading list here

2009-01-30, 06:33	Link #58
Myssa Rei Moderate Haruhiist Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Metro Manila, Philippines Age: 42	Key adaptation. Many people expected it, but it still hits as hard as a power fist, doesn't it? __________________ Last edited by Myssa Rei; 2009-01-30 at 06:51.

2009-01-30, 06:36	Link #59
SidVicious Anime addict Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: São Paulo/Brazil Age: 46	This is just too sad. __________________ MyAnimeList AniList