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View Poll Results: High School DxD [LN/M] - Volume 25 Rating
Perfect 10 22 47.83%
9 out of 10 : Excellent 10 21.74%
8 out of 10 : Very Good 9 19.57%
7 out of 10 : Good 5 10.87%
6 out of 10 : Average 0 0%
5 out of 10 : Below Average 0 0%
4 out of 10 : Poor 0 0%
3 out of 10 : Bad 0 0%
2 out of 10 : Very Bad 0 0%
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Old 2018-06-11, 12:27   Link #2681
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Didn't have to be an asspull victory. Just a victory. Though Yusuke doesn't seem to be suited for the position of Demon King. Even if he'd won, he'd probably have given the position to someone else. The person who did win is a nobody, though. He won in a special case. So if Yusuke or someone else had won, it wouldn't really have been an asspull victory. I don't remember what exactly happened, though, so I could be wrong.

Anyway, you're still wrong about Rias being one-shotted even with her whole team, Parry-san. I mean really. Just look at her team's lineup. Of course she'd get retired if she gets caught by people from the opposing team that are too strong for her or by people who are bad match-up for her, but that doesn't only apply to her alone. What do you think would happen to Ise if he went up against Balberith but didn't get a power-up to help him beat him? He'd get retired, right? Or if it's a situation like Balor Rias vs. Fenrir where Rias got too weak to continue. Aside from that, do you really think Rias' team would be one-shotted just because Rias isn't as strong as most of the other Kings?

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Old 2018-06-11, 14:10   Link #2682
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So what do you guys think that [Alphecca Tyrant] & [Nereid Kyrie] Sacred Gear abilities are? The full translation of [Alphecca Tyrant] is [The Unparalleled Crown of Abyss] & we know that it's the Holy Nail. [Nereid Kyrie] full translation is [Poem of Endless Green Sea].
[Alphecca Tyrant] Can exert control over those it impales with its nails. Super-effective against devils, vampires, and youkai. Can easily restrain movements of those it impales. And the Balance Breaker would basically be complete domination over beings. Like you can impale someone and control them like a puppet.

[Nereid Kyrie] Has the power to control water with simple commands. Can easily control large bodies of water. Can even flood entire countries if fully mastered.
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Old 2018-06-11, 14:18   Link #2683
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[Alphecca Tyrant] Can exert control over those it impales with its nails. Super-effective against devils, vampires, and youkai. Can easily restrain movements of those it impales. And the Balance Breaker would basically be complete domination over beings. Like you can impale someone and control them like a puppet.

[Nereid Kyrie] Has the power to control water with simple commands. Can easily control large bodies of water. Can even flood entire countries if fully mastered.
I dont know if the former is strong enough to be classified as a longinus. This is basically the skill of Excalibur Ruler.
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Old 2018-06-11, 14:37   Link #2684
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Ruler legit worked on a top 10 magically off screen. xD
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Old 2018-06-11, 14:38   Link #2685
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With no limitations as to who it can control (even god-class beings), it most definitely is powerful to be classified as a longinus. Remember that is was said that Excaliburt Ruler was the most powerful of all the 7 excalibur pieces and was even capable of controlling a top 10 class being.

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Old 2018-06-11, 15:26   Link #2686
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I know how powerful Ruler is. What I'm saying is it would be a lack of creativity to create a longinus that has the same skill as one of the Excalibur fragments.
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Old 2018-06-11, 15:45   Link #2687
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Some holy swords share similar power to Longinus. For instance, Durandal & Slash dog can cut everything.
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Old 2018-06-11, 15:57   Link #2688
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Didn't have to be an asspull victory. Just a victory. Though Yusuke doesn't seem to be suited for the position of Demon King. Even if he'd won, he'd probably have given the position to someone else. The person who did win is a nobody, though. He won in a special case. So if Yusuke or someone else had won, it wouldn't really have been an asspull victory. I don't remember what exactly happened, though, so I could be wrong.

Anyway, you're still wrong about Rias being one-shotted even with her whole team, Parry-san. I mean really. Just look at her team's lineup. Of course she'd get retired if she gets caught by people from the opposing team that are too strong for her or by people who are bad match-up for her, but that doesn't only apply to her alone. What do you think would happen to Ise if he went up against Balberith but didn't get a power-up to help him beat him? He'd get retired, right? Or if it's a situation like Balor Rias vs. Fenrir where Rias got too weak to continue. Aside from that, do you really think Rias' team would be one-shotted just because Rias isn't as strong as most of the other Kings?

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it was Yusuke demon daddys best friend or close ally who won. Each of Yusuke allys where demon king class because full Rizen was above everyone in the verse. No i don't think anyone but Indra and Balberith can beat Crom one on one. When did I say her team would be one shotted?

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Old 2018-06-11, 17:13   Link #2689
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So what do you guys think that [Alphecca Tyrant] & [Nereid Kyrie] Sacred Gear abilities are? The full translation of [Alphecca Tyrant] is [The Unparalleled Crown of Abyss] & we know that it's the Holy Nail. [Nereid Kyrie] full translation is [Poem of Endless Green Sea].
[Alphecca Tyrant] being the Holy Nail while it carries the epithet of "Crown" kind of triggers me. Should've made it the thorn crown instead, even if it's not really accepted as a Holy Relic

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[Alphecca Tyrant] Can exert control over those it impales with its nails. Super-effective against devils, vampires, and youkai. Can easily restrain movements of those it impales. And the Balance Breaker would basically be complete domination over beings. Like you can impale someone and control them like a puppet.

[Nereid Kyrie] Has the power to control water with simple commands. Can easily control large bodies of water. Can even flood entire countries if fully mastered.
I'm really curious to see in what form we will see it. Maybe it's a spear like True Longinus? Or perhaps a rapier?

[Nereid Kyrie] can probably do some great things. Water is super versatile, so complete control over it will be quite wild.

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I dont know if the former is strong enough to be classified as a longinus. This is basically the skill of Excalibur Ruler.
It's super effective against creatures of darkness and it's basically one of the holy items surrounding the death of Christ. Truth to be told, it does seem less powerful than True Longinus and Incinerate Anthem. I guess we'll just have to see how this will go.
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Old 2018-06-11, 17:49   Link #2690
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have not thought that maybe Zeno is Hades in disguise or the true king of the black satan team is Hades, making Zeno just a substitute king ... with that black satan team could be the most powerful of the competition.
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Old 2018-06-11, 19:46   Link #2691
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Ruler legit worked on a top 10 magically off screen. xD
A weakened Top 10 who was held down with the chains of Glepnir and had to take on.Vali in Juggernaut Drive.
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Old 2018-06-12, 08:14   Link #2692
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A Vali who hadn't mastered Juggernaut Drive since it wasn't on Albion's level in his prime yet and who could only stay in control for a few minutes.

@Norn: Why would the Holy Nail have the form of a sword when it's a nail? What I'm thinking of is that thing that's shaped kind of like a screw except instead of using a screwdriver, you have to hammer it in.
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Old 2018-06-12, 08:23   Link #2693
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Juggernaut Drive can't be mastered. It was at a pretty insane level. He would be powerful enough in Juggernaut Drive to take on Fenrir for the few minutes he's able to use it. That combined with the chains of Glepnir and using Ruler on Fenrir is what allowed Fenrir to be tamed.

I was replying to the guy who said Ruler worked on Fenrir. It worked in Fenrir in combination with the other two things listed above.
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Old 2018-06-12, 08:31   Link #2694
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Euclid said he could've mastered it. And Ddraig said he'd be able to bring out more than his full power. You probably just have to have high enough aura to use in place of life-force as well as a strong enough base to be able to bring out the Two Heavenly Dragons' full power or more.
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Old 2018-06-12, 08:45   Link #2695
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Could he master it or would he just do the same thing that Vali did? Just hold back the negative effects for a few minutes?
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Old 2018-06-12, 08:51   Link #2696
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isnt that essentially the same when it comes to the original JD?
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Old 2018-06-12, 09:00   Link #2697
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@Lucidrago: He'd be able to bring out more than the full power of the Two Heavenly Dragons and also be able to control it for longer than Vali managed to (at least). And Euclid has a Maou-class base, so that means Vali and Ise need to get their base to below Maou-class but still somewhere high in Ultimate-class (because Maou-class = more than full power of Two Heavenly Dragons, which means exactly at their level = below Maou-class but still Ultimate-class (maybe high-tier Ultimate-class; Vali still can't do it probably because his base is low-tier Ultimate-class or so)).
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Old 2018-06-12, 10:04   Link #2698
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Euclid said he could've mastered it. And Ddraig said he'd be able to bring out more than his full power. You probably just have to have high enough aura to use in place of life-force as well as a strong enough base to be able to bring out the Two Heavenly Dragons' full power or more.
Depends on what the mastery mean. After all Euclid was offering Ddraig to enter his Boosted Gear not Ise's original one.
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Old 2018-06-12, 10:22   Link #2699
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Part 4 of Life 0: Shooting Star & Longinus

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