(L) Dragon Ball Super

[Ryuga]

This episode was funny and heartwarming.

Spoiler for ep.1:

Laughed my arse off at Goku slacking on the job and dumping everything on Goten just to train and Beerus being a jerk. I also like the fact that Satan (Hercule) gave Goku the money and how even though it was just ordinary water, Videl accepted the gift. It's the thought that counts.

Next ep's gonna be jokes, looking forward to it.

[Kanon]

I can't wait for the next episode. It's gonna be great.

[foxbox360]

Vegeta on a family vacation !!!! Can't wait

[Malicre]

was the japanese voice acting for goku always this bad? lol......

[Stark700]

Episode 1:

I kinda like it. It has humor and didn't take itself too seriously although there are some foreshadowing of what may happen soon. I have some mixed feelings on the new OP theme song though.

I expect that we'll see more action soon.

My favorite parts were Buu and Mr. Satan though. Those two has some of the funniest chemistry in this franchise.

[Gintokifan22]

Let's see the fandom debate what a great dad Goku even just the first episode. WTF passing off his daily jobs to his 7 year old kid

Was he like this with Gohan when he was little? I don't think he was. Goten gets the worst end of the stick. Not saying he was the father of the year with Gohan, that goes to Piccolo sadly but I didn't think he was this bad

So is this series just going to be a slice of life type? It's going to be Hell for Vegeta.

The opening, err um I guess Krillin and his family stop by Gohan's place a lot?

No Pan yet? I thought Videl was pregnant with her kid in the last film or some thing?

[lordstarkiller]

fun ep not that bad, we will have to wait a little while before the fighting happens.

I'm not quite sure but from what i have read the two battle of gods films are not canon. Dragon ball super will redo the two movies as long episodes arcs, so they are changing things.

[Gundamx]

Originally Posted by Gintokifan22

Let's see the fandom debate what a great dad Goku even just the first episode. WTF passing off his daily jobs to his 7 year old kid

Was he like this with Gohan when he was little? I don't think he was. Goten gets the worst end of the stick. Not saying he was the father of the year with Gohan, that goes to Piccolo sadly but I didn't think he was this bad

So is this series just going to be a slice of life type? It's going to be Hell for Vegeta.

The opening, err um I guess Krillin and his family stop by Gohan's place a lot?

No Pan yet? I thought Videl was pregnant with her kid in the last film or some thing?

First movie didn't happen yet.

[sayde]

Originally Posted by Gintokifan22

Let's see the fandom debate what a great dad Goku even just the first episode. WTF passing off his daily jobs to his 7 year old kid

Was he like this with Gohan when he was little? I don't think he was. Goten gets the worst end of the stick. Not saying he was the father of the year with Gohan, that goes to Piccolo sadly but I didn't think he was this bad :confused?

It's not all too hard to understand where Goku's faults as a parent stem from. He never had a real father figure in his life to instill into him the values of what makes a father a good father. I believe Grandpa Gohan would've been that person had he lived a little longer, but due to his untimely passing, Goku pretty much started raising himself at a very early age. So when it came to learning and understanding the values of family and responsibility, Goku just doesn't get it. Hell...he entered marriage not even knowing what it was or what he was getting into. lol So of course he's not going to know basic family values and what makes a parent a good parent. In Goku's mind, as long as he knows everyone's okay, then that's all that matters to him. It's very obvious how childish Goku acts as a grown man. And that's because he's still very much a child at heart. I mean Chi Chi still has to tell him what to do on a daily basis. And if he's not being told what to do, he does what he wants.

So during those times when we saw him playing with Gohan or Goten, I believe he did it because he legitimately wanted to play with his kids. I wouldn't for one moment give Goku enough credit to say that he's ever played with his children because he understands the positive impact it would have on the development of a young boy. lol

By comparison, Vegeta at least grew up knowing his father. And I'm sure King Vegeta was able to teach the young Prince a few things before being killed. I know they don't go into it much, but there's no doubt in my mind that Vegeta was raised in a way that provided him with a better grasp of basic family values and responsibilities (in comparison to Goku who's still trying to figure it all out).

[Chosen_Hero]

Originally Posted by sayde

It's not all too hard to understand where Goku's faults as a parent stem from. He never had a real father figure in his life to instill into him the values of what makes a father a good father. I believe Grandpa Gohan would've been that person had he lived a little longer, but due to his untimely passing, Goku pretty much started raising himself at a very early age. So when it came to learning and understanding the values of family and responsibility, Goku just doesn't get it. Hell...he entered marriage not even knowing what it was or what he was getting into. lol So of course he's not going to know basic family values and what makes a parent a good parent. In Goku's mind, as long as he knows everyone's okay, then that's all that matters to him. It's very obvious how childish Goku acts as a grown man. And that's because he's still very much a child at heart. I mean Chi Chi still has to tell him what to do on a daily basis. And if he's not being told what to do, he does what he wants.

So during those times when we saw him playing with Gohan or Goten, I believe he did it because he legitimately wanted to play with his kids. I wouldn't for one moment give Goku enough credit to say that he's ever played with his children because he understands the positive impact it would have on the development of a young boy. lol

By comparison, Vegeta at least grew up knowing his father. And I'm sure King Vegeta was able to teach the young Prince a few things before being killed. I know they don't go into it much, but there's no doubt in my mind that Vegeta was raised in a way that provided him with a better grasp of basic family values and responsibilities (in comparison to Goku who's still trying to figure it all out).

Is he even trying? (the answer can be seen in episode 61 of DB Kai.)

That moment when an 8 year old gives his father better financial advice then the man himself knows.

[FlareKnight]

Yeah, Goku is one of the greatest fighters out there....but as a parent he's well not one of the best examples out there. Combined with Chichi who is one of the most insane mothers in the universe....it's kind of amazing that Gohan came out a decent person (probably thanks to Piccolo).

I still wonder if they had to seriously push Gohan as far as they did visually and suck all the cool out of him, but oh well. Plus does he really need glasses? Oh well, at least he's pretty happy and his situation is pretty good. He doesn't have any serious burdens of maintaining a spot as the strongest in the universe (even though he probably could if he applied himself to it) and has pretty well the most normal of wives (well getting there) in the entire show. May never reach the heights and glory he had like in the fight against Cell, but such is how it goes. At least he'll end up happy at the end of the day.

Props to Mr. Satan, going out to pass that money along. Guy may be silly at times, but he is pretty rational. He knows much of what he has is thanks to the efforts of others and the credit he's taken. But in the end it's another case of everyone is happier that way. He's much more suited to be the public face and star for humanity. Not like Goku or most of the cast would really want that kind of fame. Pretty well win/win so long as he doesn't forget to be grateful and does pass along future cash around to those who put in the effort.

[VTHokiePride]

I've only watched the Dragon Ball series in English dub so the Japanese threw me off a bit, but it wasn't too bad. Glad to see that Master Roshi is still the same.

[Wandering Soul]

It was a nice slice of life episode. Had some funny moments and heartwarming moments. Heartwarming moments include Videl accepting the gift and Hercules giving the money to Goku while acknowledging how it was Goku and Vegeta that stopped Buu.

[Chosen_Hero]

Originally Posted by FlareKnight

Yeah, Goku is one of the greatest fighters out there....but as a parent he's well not one of the best examples out there. Combined with Chichi who is one of the most insane mothers in the universe....it's kind of amazing that Gohan came out a decent person (probably thanks to Piccolo).

I still wonder if they had to seriously push Gohan as far as they did visually and suck all the cool out of him, but oh well. Plus does he really need glasses? Oh well, at least he's pretty happy and his situation is pretty good. He doesn't have any serious burdens of maintaining a spot as the strongest in the universe (even though he probably could if he applied himself to it) and has pretty well the most normal of wives (well getting there) in the entire show. May never reach the heights and glory he had like in the fight against Cell, but such is how it goes. At least he'll end up happy at the end of the day.

Props to Mr. Satan, going out to pass that money along. Guy may be silly at times, but he is pretty rational. He knows much of what he has is thanks to the efforts of others and the credit he's taken. But in the end it's another case of everyone is happier that way. He's much more suited to be the public face and star for humanity. Not like Goku or most of the cast would really want that kind of fame. Pretty well win/win so long as he doesn't forget to be grateful and does pass along future cash around to those who put in the effort.

They did show Piccolo with a dissapointed look on his face in the first episode so maybe he'll do something to get him back to his old awesome self because god knows Goku doesn't care about anything but training.

[Shana]

Originally Posted by VTHokiePride

I've only watched the Dragon Ball series in English dub so the Japanese threw me off a bit, but it wasn't too bad.

This. Goku's voice actor was the one that bothered me the most, and also *sigh* I'm not sure if Toei just plain sucks at characterization or I have my nostalgia glasses on, but Goku's antics weren't as funny and ChiChi was plain... obnoxious? And Videl was too loving.

It's just the first episode so I might just be paranoid.

[Peanutbutter]

This was set likely a few years (but less than 5) after Buu Saga, but how many years?

Gohan and Videl are just married, so is 3 years reasonable? So Goten is now 10. Thats also the age Gohan first turned SSJ2.

[Seafoam]

This is only 6 months after the Buu Saga. So 9 and a half years before the epilogue in Z. Plenty of time for them to do what they want.

[Chosen_Hero]

Originally Posted by Peanutbutter

This was set likely a few years (but less than 5) after Buu Saga, but how many years?

Gohan and Videl are just married, so is 3 years reasonable? So Goten is now 10. Thats also the age Gohan first turned SSJ2.

It's months after Buu's defeat not Years.

Gohan in Cell saga was the best kind of broken, the only natural SSJ2 (seriously, the dude went into the hyperbolic time chamber and was turning SSJ2 in less than the year they were supposed to be training for... what?), but now he is but a shadow of his former self, his dad (Piccolo) should do something about it.

[MAX_COLA_POWER!]

Remember when Mystic Gohan used to mean something? No? Me neither.

[Peanutbutter]

What, 6 months? So Gohan and Videl already finished high school and got married by then??