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And even if they did put up a resistance, it still shows how much weaker Orb is than the EA. Quote:
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Frankly I just consider that to be a massively ridiculous plothole in itself. The whole concept of MAD and any sort of reasoning was pretty much throw out of the window.
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Your original point was that EA couldn't be deterred because "Even after Uzumi destroyed what the AF came for, the EA didn't just leave, they still went on to conquer Orb." I pointed out that the only reason they went on to conquer Orb is not because they couldn't be deterred from anything, but because they might as well since there was no resistance. Quote:
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The fact of the matter is that there's no indication that Orb had closed the gap in power between it and the EA in the 2 years post SEED. So if Orb couldn't defeat the EA then, there's no indication that it suddenly could in Destiny. Quote:
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But still, EA isn't some stupid superpower that just sends mobile suits where there's an enemy. It also has to consider strategy, advantages, disadvantages and the costs of fighting for enemy territory compared to another. A neutral nation that has proven to be nothing but pain in the arse should really be right near the back of their list, just like it was in the first season. Quote:
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So, again, the point of this example is to put the EA's character into perspective. I'm not using it to say that this specific event has any influence on Orb joining the EA. |
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True he did say this, however, at the time no one other than ZAFT knew how to create the NJC devices. But then Rau Le Creuset sent the data on the device to Blue Cosmos and the EA quickly mass-produced the devices. That makes Kira keep NJC technology a secret somewhat pointless. Also after the war, the Freedom(which had a NJC installed in it) was repaired and hidden in a secret underground base in Orb. It is possible that ORB were the ones that repair it and may have possibly obtain the NJC technology while in the process of repairing it.
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And I also seem to recall Kira stating he would also take care of all the maintenance for the Freedom, and just because you repair something, does not mean you get the data for it. Unless they had to fix the nuclear drive which was obviously not the case, as anything wrong with it was a potential nuclear detonation As for all the posts above.....wonderful trip going through the whole conversation....remind me to never do something like that again Everything is so subjective to the individual and all the plot holes and untouched parts of SEED does not really help either, everything is open to interpretation |
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Anyway, even Akatsuki wasn't equipped with an NJC. |
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2013-02-06, 11:28 | Link #5833 |
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I thought that Kira was just taking care of the Freedom alone because the thing could nuke if used unproperly (actually happens to another mobile suit in SEED X Astray) and that he didn't want to give away the fact that Lacus helped him sabotage it.
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Huh? What did Lacus help Kira sabotage? |
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Then again, speculate is all we can do without any given databook regarding x plothole, and side materials only weight so much Honestly, Orb has first hand experience when it comes to being destroyed by the EA, seeing how they got a taste of it back in SEED, before the Destroy's even came into play, Destroys or not, the EA destroys whatever comes in its way, be it a city or a country |
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Orb already knows about the EA from SEED. |
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