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snarlmane · 2017-10-13, 09:35

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Originally Posted by Marcus H.

One cruel truth: thing will never go as planned. The best thing to do is settle for a compromise. The author definitely knew this—HE only knows how to write, and THEY only know how to make his story into an animated adaptation, regardless of how good or accurate it would get.

Another cruel truth: an author/creator is only as famous as its biggest hit. Just like how Dan Brown's name is only known for The Da Vinci Code and Angels and Demons, Watari might as well be forgotten after Oregairu ends. But that didn't stop people like Kazuma Kamachi or Hiro Mashima from being the prolific creators that they are. That's one cruel road a creator has to tread on, and I'm pretty sure every single one of them who loves their craft are well aware that their fame is short-lived.

I'm just saying that the anime didn't do a proper job explaining anything really, which is why so many people were lost during season 2. It's also the reason why a lot of people to this very day still have no idea what is going on in this series. Characters are saying and doing things, yet no one can explain what it means or why they're saying certain things.

lijenstina · 2017-10-13, 10:08

If there is one flaw with the source material > adaptation is the lack of establishing more how things are after the Volume 9 has ended. So we can see where are they, their relationships after the events in that volume ended. Something similar to volume 5 where while it progressed the plot, the ending conclusion was understandable since the whole volume lead to it. To see them interact and grasp more what is still wrong between them. A shorter volume that can act as a bit of a breather before the next wave of drama. Heck, it could be even a .5 volume adapted.

(Even though the 1 st season has done the volume 5 in 1 episode and removed a big chunk of it it still worked).

It didn't help that we jumped between volumes inside an episode.

But what happened it happened.

As the focus of the second part is more internal to the characters it can be confusing to the viewer. Show, don't tell - take a bit of time for the status quo to sink in. I don't think that the volume 10 was successful in doing so.

kuudererules · 2017-11-24, 06:33

Kono Light Novel ga Sugoi! 2018 Results

Female Ranking

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1. Misaka Mikoto (Toaru Series)
2. Main (Honzuki no Gekokujou)
3. Asuna (SAO)
6. Yukinon (Oregairu)
7. Yuigahama Yui (Oregairu)
8. Rem (Re:Zero)
9. Irohasu (Oregairu)

Male Ranking

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1) Kirito (SAO)
2) Hikigaya Hachiman (Oregairu)
3) Kamijou Touma (Toaru Series)
4) Shiba Tatsuya
5) Accelerator (Toaru Series)
6) Sora (No Game No Life)
7) Natsuki Subaru (Re:Zero)
8) Fernando (Ascendance of a Bookworm)
9) Satou Kazuma (Konosuba)
10) Ayanokouji Kiyotaka (Classroom of Elite)

Oregairu didn't make it top 10 LN, maybe because it won 3 times already

dragon1412 · 2017-11-24, 08:21

the book was taking too long to come out, it's near 1 year for the latest one to come out isn't it, no wonder the ranking drop

kuudererules · 2017-12-08, 10:46

new picture of yukinoshita by ponkan8-sama

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Also Oregairu C93 Tapestry

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kuudererules · 2018-01-03, 03:40

Otanjoubi Omedettou Yukinon
art from Ponkan8's twitter

Roxanne · 2018-01-07, 19:36

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new picture of yukinoshita by ponkan8-sama

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I love her very much <3 <3

csuree · 2018-01-08, 05:51

I love every character from the series but the waiting for the finale is killing me.

HereticMagus · 2018-02-04, 03:45

Yo. How's it going, has the series progressed since vol 11 (or 12?)

JDFUdude · 2018-02-18, 11:24

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Originally Posted by HereticMagus

Yo. How's it going, has the series progressed since vol 11 (or 12?)

I've been reading *mod snip* pastebin and he's up to interlude two. It definitely seems that the series will end in the next volume, to me at least

Disdanny · 2018-02-19, 11:49

So the next volume will be the ending? I hope yukino is not the end girl lol I rather it be the kohai if anything.

WingedAccelerator · 2018-02-19, 12:24

It was confirmed that Volume 14 will be the last one that comes with Volume 13 as a simultaneous release. The date is unknown.

As for what happened in Volume 12, I don't know who to believe regarding the summaries. There are some contradicting things, so I want to read the whole thing and make my own assumptions before saying anything regarding the direction the novel may take.

pervypig · 2018-02-20, 06:08

IMHO, Oregairu should have ended at the end of Vol 11, leaving things as they are; 8man's too twisted and yukinon damaged to have any real relationship, and yui's too fake. Watari Sensei really lost a perfect opportunity to step back and end the series while he's on top. what a waste.

kuudererules · 2018-03-03, 08:13

from Animaru! FES

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blitz1/2 · 2018-03-03, 09:20

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Originally Posted by kuudererules

from Animaru! FES

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no komachi = fail

Disdanny · 2018-03-04, 00:44

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Originally Posted by blitz1/2

no komachi = fail

How I felt.

kuudererules · 2018-04-16, 21:41

Almost late but Omedettou Iroha

Darkbacon · 2018-06-01, 13:26

HachIroha? HachiYui? HachiYuki? place your bets! Senpai Kouhai Hentai Kamen Rider!!!

WingedAccelerator · 2018-06-02, 03:36

Still don't get why or how Watari lost his passion to get over with this, when he time to time said in the Afterworlds that the ending is near. Maybe he has his own version of the ending already, but the editors want to push for something that he doesn't like, so he protests?

Darkbacon · 2018-06-02, 18:41

I wonder if they might be trying to have the anime cover volume 13 and 14 too and they're waiting to release 8t around the time that would come out

2017-10-13, 10:08	Link #8222
lijenstina Nihilism for Beginners Join Date: Nov 2013	If there is one flaw with the source material > adaptation is the lack of establishing more how things are after the Volume 9 has ended. So we can see where are they, their relationships after the events in that volume ended. Something similar to volume 5 where while it progressed the plot, the ending conclusion was understandable since the whole volume lead to it. To see them interact and grasp more what is still wrong between them. A shorter volume that can act as a bit of a breather before the next wave of drama. Heck, it could be even a .5 volume adapted. (Even though the 1 st season has done the volume 5 in 1 episode and removed a big chunk of it it still worked). It didn't help that we jumped between volumes inside an episode. But what happened it happened. As the focus of the second part is more internal to the characters it can be confusing to the viewer. Show, don't tell - take a bit of time for the status quo to sink in. I don't think that the volume 10 was successful in doing so. __________________ The truth is, statistically speaking, the least popular lie. “Talking nonsense is the sole privilege mankind possesses over the other organisms. It's by talking nonsense that one gets to the truth! I talk nonsense, therefore I'm human” Last edited by lijenstina; 2017-10-13 at 22:34.

2018-01-08, 05:51	Link #8228
csuree The Most Hated™ Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: A random coordinate on the space-time continuum Age: 36	I love every character from the series but the waiting for the finale is killing me. __________________ Go for your dreams, never give up.Because when you give up your dreams, you die!

2018-06-01, 13:26	Link #8238
Darkbacon The Masked Panties Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Behind Panties Age: 32	HachIroha? HachiYui? HachiYuki? place your bets! Senpai Kouhai Hentai Kamen Rider!!! __________________

2018-06-02, 18:41	Link #8240
Darkbacon The Masked Panties Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Behind Panties Age: 32	I wonder if they might be trying to have the anime cover volume 13 and 14 too and they're waiting to release 8t around the time that would come out __________________

2017-11-24, 06:33	Link #8223
kuudererules Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: Indonesia	Kono Light Novel ga Sugoi! 2018 Results Female Ranking Images Sorry; dynamic content not loaded. Reload? 1. Misaka Mikoto (Toaru Series) 2. Main (Honzuki no Gekokujou) 3. Asuna (SAO) 6. Yukinon (Oregairu) 7. Yuigahama Yui (Oregairu) 8. Rem (Re:Zero) 9. Irohasu (Oregairu) Male Ranking Images Sorry; dynamic content not loaded. Reload? 1) Kirito (SAO) 2) Hikigaya Hachiman (Oregairu) 3) Kamijou Touma (Toaru Series) 4) Shiba Tatsuya 5) Accelerator (Toaru Series) 6) Sora (No Game No Life) 7) Natsuki Subaru (Re:Zero) 8) Fernando (Ascendance of a Bookworm) 9) Satou Kazuma (Konosuba) 10) Ayanokouji Kiyotaka (Classroom of Elite) Oregairu didn't make it top 10 LN, maybe because it won 3 times already

2017-11-24, 08:21	Link #8224
dragon1412 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: somewhere in Asia	the book was taking too long to come out, it's near 1 year for the latest one to come out isn't it, no wonder the ranking drop

2017-12-08, 10:46	Link #8225
kuudererules Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: Indonesia	new picture of yukinoshita by ponkan8-sama Images Sorry; dynamic content not loaded. Reload? Also Oregairu C93 Tapestry Images Sorry; dynamic content not loaded. Reload?

2018-01-03, 03:40	Link #8226
kuudererules Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: Indonesia	Otanjoubi Omedettou Yukinon art from Ponkan8's twitter

2018-02-04, 03:45	Link #8229
HereticMagus Senior Member Join Date: May 2014	Yo. How's it going, has the series progressed since vol 11 (or 12?)

2018-02-19, 11:49	Link #8231
Disdanny Izanagi Join Date: Jun 2013	So the next volume will be the ending? I hope yukino is not the end girl lol I rather it be the kohai if anything.

2018-02-19, 12:24	Link #8232
WingedAccelerator Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2014	It was confirmed that Volume 14 will be the last one that comes with Volume 13 as a simultaneous release. The date is unknown. As for what happened in Volume 12, I don't know who to believe regarding the summaries. There are some contradicting things, so I want to read the whole thing and make my own assumptions before saying anything regarding the direction the novel may take.

2018-02-20, 06:08	Link #8233
pervypig Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2016	IMHO, Oregairu should have ended at the end of Vol 11, leaving things as they are; 8man's too twisted and yukinon damaged to have any real relationship, and yui's too fake. Watari Sensei really lost a perfect opportunity to step back and end the series while he's on top. what a waste.

2018-03-03, 08:13	Link #8234
kuudererules Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: Indonesia	from Animaru! FES Spoiler for picture:

2018-04-16, 21:41	Link #8237
kuudererules Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: Indonesia	Almost late but Omedettou Iroha

2018-06-02, 03:36	Link #8239
WingedAccelerator Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2014	Still don't get why or how Watari lost his passion to get over with this, when he time to time said in the Afterworlds that the ending is near. Maybe he has his own version of the ending already, but the editors want to push for something that he doesn't like, so he protests?