(L) Youkoso Jitsuryoku Shijou Shugi no Kyoushitsu e

[Lhklan]

Originally Posted by SilverGlavenus

Yes, I agree, instead of just bitching about the adaptation which is difficult to faithfully follow the LN in the first place, readers should just take the anime with a grain of salt. In this case, I can understand the studio's take on the adaptation. Introducing Kei as the heroine will only confuse viewers since her main arc begins in volume 4, while the anime only covers the first 3 vols. Instead, they focus on Horikita as the main, while not faithful, it certainly gives the anime more sense. Many of the negative feedbacks are under the guise of "failed adaptation", but I think they stems from the angry shippers whose waifus screentime got cut short.

Here's the thing: some of the changes made no sense in term of logics AND continuity.

For example, the staircase scenes: the anime made it so that it"[ Horikita and Ayano who confront the C class boys while the LN is Ichinosr and Ayano. A d class and a B class students would be much more believable than 2 D class, especially since there's an earlier scenes where the C class teachers butches about Sakura being the witness since she's a D class student. So why didn't those boys, who were in the same room uses the same arguments to shut down Horikita and Ayano? If it were Ixhinose they would have less reasons to do so since she's both a B class and quite popular.

There's a difference between waifus stuffs and story integrity stuff. Most of the complain is the latter not the former.

[Haru00]

Originally Posted by Rejectors

Ayanokuji monologue LN Version: But too bad Horikita, you have misunderstood one thing. Now, I'll confess from the bottom of my heart, that I don't think of you as my comrade at all. I don't even feel concerned about you as a classmate.

So Horikita said the same thing and that was Ayanokouji's monologue? that is much more brutal but I would have liked it more if he was talking about everyone, not just her thanks for that beautiful info.

[Rejectors]

Manga illustrations

[Hujan]

^^ I think it is the same implicitly,
there is no one who is more often interacted with Ayanokoji than Horikita until that point, and when he didn't trust Horikita AT THAT TIME, do you expect He to trust (consider ally) and corcern to others person? (or maybe author made monologue like that because Ayanokouji corcern about Sakura? as she is the only one that didn't had hidden motive or ambition, just girl in love?)

[Endless_Despair]

Originally Posted by Grey Hat

You want to know why they didn't adapt her SS in vol 4.5? it's bcuz they need to see them in a swimsuit not a clumsy Horikita that accidentally stuck her hand n the bottle
more like a fan service ep.

That's the thing. If they wanted swimsuit fanservice. That could have easily been done whilst they were on the cruise ship or even on the Island itself which is full of beaches. There was no reason to waste an entire episode at the pool when that time could have been used more meaningfully like explaining how Ayanokouji & Ichinose became acquainted.

Originally Posted by SilverGlavenus

Yes, I agree, instead of just bitching about the adaptation which is difficult to faithfully follow the LN in the first place, readers should just take the anime with a grain of salt. In this case, I can understand the studio's take on the adaptation. Introducing Kei as the heroine will only confuse viewers since her main arc begins in volume 4, while the anime only covers the first 3 vols. Instead, they focus on Horikita as the main, while not faithful, it certainly gives the anime more sense. Many of the negative feedbacks are under the guise of "failed adaptation", but I think they stems from the angry shippers whose waifus screentime got cut short.

No one's disputing that introducing Karuizawa would have been odd, because yes it would have been and I also agree that keeping it to the original wouldn't have made sense. What the problem is that this scene should have never been adapted in the first place as not only is Horikita stealing a role from another character, it also contradicts the LN.

Credit to Cinnamon for his translation here and it tells you a few things:

Spoiler:

1. Swimming Pool is only open to the public on the last 3 days of the Summer Holidays
2. Horikita only went together with the others to the swimming pool because Ayanokouji helped her out, when she got her hand stuck in a thermos and he uses this to blackmail her.
3. Ayanokouji asks Karuizawa to help with the 'Idiot trio's' peeping cameras because he doesn't trust Horikita and he doesn't want her to know that he's working behind the scenes.

Its one thing to make changes in the anime but its another to change them to the point it contradicts the source material.

[lucasdeis]

Originally Posted by Grey Hat

Back read before you ask since vol 1-6 is already discussed in this thread

i checked and i didnt find a summary of it i was asking for a whole summary go and check page and page would take me forever and i am so busy lately

[wuhugm]

Is Horikita a hypocrite?
She said she feels bad being given Ayanokouji's achievements
But in the end she didn't tell anyone about that
Hirata could've claimed the honor for survival test, yet he's a good guy, honestly tell everyone what Ayanokouji told him
On the other hand, Horikita kept the truth hidden for her own benefits
Does anyone realize this?

[Sixth]

Originally Posted by Lhklan

Here's the thing: some of the changes made no sense in term of logics AND continuity.

For example, the staircase scenes: the anime made it so that it"[ Horikita and Ayano who confront the C class boys while the LN is Ichinosr and Ayano. A d class and a B class students would be much more believable than 2 D class, especially since there's an earlier scenes where the C class teachers butches about Sakura being the witness since she's a D class student. So why didn't those boys, who were in the same room uses the same arguments to shut down Horikita and Ayano? If it were Ixhinose they would have less reasons to do so since she's both a B class and quite popular.

There's a difference between waifus stuffs and story integrity stuff. Most of the complain is the latter not the former.

You don't need to be popular person to pin down a bunch of amateur criminals when you got "evidence" and "fact" at your side especially when the criminal themselves knew that they setup Sudo ever since from the beginning. Heck you could replace Sakura with Suzune or Ichinose and you will still get the same result. Ayanokoji's machination can't be stopped by mere fodders like those 3 class C stooges.

[sasabit]

crap I dunno why but I love bitch mode Kushida. In her cheery form she is 0 appeal for me at all, but when shes like her true self, she's so cute...

[Lhklan]

Originally Posted by Sixth

You don't need to be popular person to pin down a bunch of amateur criminals when you got "evidence" and "fact" at your side especially when the criminal themselves knew that they setup Sudo ever since from the beginning. Heck you could replace Sakura with Suzune or Ichinose and you will still get the same result. Ayanokoji's machination can't be stopped by mere fodders like those 3 class C stooges.

... Did you even...

You missed the most important point about Ichinose - that I repeated in that same post - being there: She's from a different class. Specificaly, class B.

Those same students just watched their teachers call bullshit on class D using Sakura as a witness, why couldn't they do the same when it's both Horikita and Kiyotaka - 2 D class that were in the same room when the Sudou conference happened?

One of the underlying points of the Sudou situation was this: If you got a bad rep, people are less likely to believe you than the one with a good rep. Now, with both D class - the bottom rung of the school - against C class - the next to bottom - who would you think the school would more than likely believe? That's right, C class. It was proven earlier too, what with the scramble for evidences and their hesitation in using Sakura.

But with Ichinose - a B class girl - in the equation, things change. Now they have to wonder; If a B Class girl - and practically the class leader at that - vouch for D class, is there really nothing wrong with C Class accusation?

Basically, putting Horikita in that scene made no sense, both from a logic points AND a continuity points.

[sasabit]

Btw for anyone who has read the novel, does Ayanokouji have any kind of insurance against Kushida? Since Kushida seems like the most volatile person in D-class, I find it hard to imagine Ayanokouji wouldn't have anything prepared when Kushida decides to make false accusations against people and the class believes her over Ayanokouji because of her outer appearance. What can Ayanokouji do if Kushida decides to do something detrimental for D-class?

[SilverGlavenus]

Originally Posted by sasabit

Btw for anyone who has read the novel, does Ayanokouji have any kind of insurance against Kushida? Since Kushida seems like the most volatile person in D-class, I find it hard to imagine Ayanokouji wouldn't have anything prepared when Kushida decides to make false accusations against people and the class believes her over Ayanokouji because of her outer appearance. What can Ayanokouji do if Kushida decides to do something detrimental for D-class?

Uhhh, based on the spoilers, I'm pretty sure that everyone in class D knows about bitch Kushida, so.....

[Cinnamon]

Originally Posted by sasabit

Btw for anyone who has read the novel, does Ayanokouji have any kind of insurance against Kushida? Since Kushida seems like the most volatile person in D-class, I find it hard to imagine Ayanokouji wouldn't have anything prepared when Kushida decides to make false accusations against people and the class believes her over Ayanokouji because of her outer appearance. What can Ayanokouji do if Kushida decides to do something detrimental for D-class?

He has insurance against her.

Spoiler for Future volumes:

In volume 4, he learned that he was helpless under those exam conditions thus in Volume 5, he got early intel to plan against the plan of Ryuuen and Kushida. In volume 6, he set up a plan together with Karuizawa to expel her in case Horikita's plans fell.

Originally Posted by SilverGlavenus

Uhhh, based on the spoilers, I'm pretty sure that everyone in class D knows about bitch Kushida, so.....

Nobody except Ayanokouji and Horikita knows and they are not telling anyone from their class to prevent morale from dropping.

[Endless_Despair]

Originally Posted by Cinnamon

He has insurance against her.

Spoiler for Future volumes:

In volume 4, he learned that he was helpless under those exam conditions thus in Volume 5, he got early intel to plan against the plan of Ryuuen and Kushida. In volume 6, he set up a plan together with Karuizawa to expel her in case Horikita's plans fell.

Nobody except Ayanokouji and Horikita knows and they are not telling anyone from their class to prevent morale from dropping.

Wait wouldn't

Spoiler:

Karuizawa know about her true personality if Ayanokouji has set up a plan to expel Kushida with her? Plus I thought Sakura knew as well.

[Cinnamon]

Originally Posted by Endless_Despair

Wait wouldn't

Spoiler:

Karuizawa know about her true personality if Ayanokouji has set up a plan to expel Kushida with her? Plus I thought Sakura knew as well.

Spoiler for no, but:

No she doesn't know at that point. Ayanokouji has in his monologue said to himself that he will have to tell her someday. (He never lies to her, only delay when he tells her information)

[Endless_Despair]

Originally Posted by Cinnamon

Spoiler for no, but:

No she doesn't know at that point. Ayanokouji has in his monologue said to himself that he will have to tell her someday. (He never lies to her, only delay when he tells her information)

Ah okay then, thanks for the clarification.

[Lhklan]

Hmm, I wonder if there would be a second season?

[SilverGlavenus]

Originally Posted by Lhklan

Hmm, I wonder if there would be a second season?

Stumbled upon this baby, still don't know if it's true tho, so take it with a grain of salt.

Spoiler for ss2 (just mayyyybe):

https://imgur.com/a/q7F8n

[AB079]

^Of course that's fake, there's no annoucement for second season and the event of Youjitsu didn't showed anything about that. Plus with the horrendous numbers of the anime I highly doubt this will happen, remember that this isn't Kyoani and they don't have money to throw into the trash.

[YbKWzNEb]

Originally Posted by SilverGlavenus

Stumbled upon this baby, still don't know if it's true tho, so take it with a grain of salt.

Spoiler for ss2 (just mayyyybe):

https://imgur.com/a/q7F8n

This was posted few pages back in this thread iirc