2012-09-19, 11:08 | Link #461 | |
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2012-09-19, 17:50 | Link #462 | |
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As for the timeslot, well, it's kinda hard... series like this doesn't really do well... Just like what happened Blassreiter(also by gen), if I'm not mistaken... did not do quite well... |
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2012-09-19, 18:08 | Link #463 | |
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Gen disowned Blassreiter saying that while he was credited as screenwriter the director did what he wanted and didn't listen to gen.
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2012-09-19, 18:17 | Link #466 |
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Ah, that makes sense. But to add to that noitaminA has never been about specifically targeting an "older" audience, so much as targeting a "broader" audience (which includes female audiences, older audiences, more mainstream audiences, people who don't usually watch anime, etc). Even in 2011 there were shows like Wandering Son and Bunny Drop.
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2012-09-19, 19:46 | Link #467 | |
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The gist of it is that Blassreiter was Ichiro Itano's baby, so he controlled the vision and recruited Urobuchi to help prepare the script. Gen's role was that of an assistant, although the project taught him a lot about how anime scripts are made (he cites Itano as a mentor, so their relationship doesn't seem to be hostile). Madoka was almost the opposite since Shinbo provided minimal guidelines and allowed Urobuchi to write the story he wanted (this time, Gen held the vision and the others brought it to life). Phantom was somewhere in between - the writers adapted the original story quite faithfully but made changes that Mashimo requested. This demonstrates why the "director vs screenwriter" debate (as seen in other threads) is pointless. Script development is a collaborative process, and in terms of influence, the balance differs from project to project. |
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2012-09-19, 19:51 | Link #468 |
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I imagine with successes like Madoka & Fate Zero, Gen will have more control over his series.
Also with Psycho Pass running 2 cours & Gen supposedly having another series in the works for the winter, he will have 2 shows running at the same time in the winter.
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2012-09-20, 00:17 | Link #470 | |
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2012-09-20, 00:46 | Link #471 | |
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heh? I seriously thought Tsuritama and Kids on the slope had better than average rating ^^"
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2012-09-20, 00:53 | Link #472 |
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noitaminA ratings have been in the shitter ever since they switched to an hour long block. They're really going all out to try and recover the audience with something like Psycho-Pass as a leading show, hoping that the people who tune in for a new Motohiro show will also stick around to watch Robotics;Notes.
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2012-09-20, 05:53 | Link #475 | |
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Anime on average costs 200k or so to produce per episode. After deducting all manufacturing costs and factoring in the cost price sold to retailers, 4.5k in sales makes less than 300k in returns per volume of 2 episodes. With poor ratings, it means that noitaminA doesn't really pull in huge advertising dollars for FujiTV either. It's not a show with a ton of great selling merchandising either. It's easy to say "oh but the show is kinda niche, so it's nice that it sold even 4.5k!" but that's a poor perspective to hold when it comes to business. In terms of actual production and profits, the show is not a success. It's not as big of a flop as Kids on the Slope, but it's still not particularly success. At best, after selling rights to other parts of the world, it might have made its money back, but it's not a profitable investment. |
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2012-09-20, 06:33 | Link #476 | |
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2012-09-20, 06:38 | Link #477 |
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I don't know how you get those numbers
I agree that anime business these days is not very profitable in business perspective. But, If we compare Tsuritama sales to the sales of some recent noitaminA shows, It did a good job. Personally I think Tsuritama is great. the ratings definitely are not great but not poor either And I think you can't just omit the niche factor from Tsuritama sales. Think! If a certain anime is watched by more people or catch more people attention, at least that show will get better potential that more people will buy the BD/DVD. Even If an anime is really good, but only a small portion of people interested in it, that anime will certainly fail in term of the sales level. Let's see if Psycho-Pass can take the glory of noitaminA back |
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By saying sales are very solid, that gives the idea that it is making a lot of money, when the reality is that it really isn't. Maybe flop was a strong word, but it definitely isn't any sort of success to shout about, which is why noitaminA has been trying to make more otaku-fodder shows in the last two years, to try and offset the lack of commercial success for the more artistic projects. Quote:
Tsuritama is one of my favorite shows this year, but I have no illusions about how "successful" it actually is. |
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2012-09-20, 07:26 | Link #479 |
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What so hard to understand Duckroll's point?
noitaminA don't need show with moderate success, its very clear they're desperate for mega hit.. everything else not count for them after couple years of great decline in rating. they're in danger.
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