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View Poll Results: Sword Art Online - Episode 12 Rating | |||
10 out of 10 : Near Perfect.... | 44 | 29.93% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent... | 31 | 21.09% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good... | 29 | 19.73% | |
7 out of 10 : Good... | 20 | 13.61% | |
6 out of 10 : Average... | 12 | 8.16% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average... | 3 | 2.04% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor... | 3 | 2.04% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad... | 3 | 2.04% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad... | 1 | 0.68% | |
1 out of 10 : Torturous... | 1 | 0.68% | |
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2012-09-23, 00:54 | Link #121 |
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So...did the boss monster activate an anti-crystal field when it appeared or something? Army Girl with Yui could reach the safe point before the boss could land his 2nd hit, and the time kirito/asuna took to set up that block seemed plenty to use teleport crystals.
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2012-09-23, 01:04 | Link #122 | |
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2012-09-23, 01:21 | Link #123 | |
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Whatever that "interference" was, I really question the shoddy writing and execution of the idea it tried to portrays, because it reminds me of exactly what happened the same "asspull/deus ex" certain plot directions in Guilty Crown and Aquarion EVOL (2nd half, 1st half was just dumb so bad its good fun until it tried to turn serious) - good conceptually, but horribly in presentation. I hate to using this word, but really it was "pretentious" as heck because it's trying to be serious about it whilst being asspull at the same time. You can't just present a poor vulnerable girl (which btw was screaming to be "felt sorry for", which I also didn't buy - manufactured drama to the max) and then suddenly do a 180 and make her into some AI program and "cheat" to erase a powerful boss. And then do a 180 again and create a melodramatic scene of her fading away with both Kirito and Asuna crying over their loss. This is aside from the fact at the very beginning of the episode, where there was so many children in this virtual reality world. Yes underage people can secretly play MMOs, but that many of them? I thought only 10,000 got access to it iirc. Really, I doubt I'm the only person who thought that this episode was extremely dissappointing. |
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2012-09-23, 01:23 | Link #124 |
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Hey guys... I don't know whether someone has pointed this out in this thread, but doesn't it a little weird to think that Kibaou wanna kill someone else? Back in 2nd episode, he is the one who forced those beta testers to make a public announcement and asking for forgiveness from normal players (non-beta testers)... and then outwitted by Aegil. 2 years inside SAO is long enough to change someone right?
btw, for the Kirito's hacking skill. Yes, I do agree with some of you saying that the scene was a little bit hollywood'ed with those unreadable lines of codes. I think it might be perfect if the floating screen get replaced with a bordered-console with lines of structured command same as the one when you activated Metasploit or any other hacking tools... isn't it?
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Spoiler for Vol. 1 & 2 -- cut out detail from Blue-Eyed Demon Episode -- Game Mechanics:
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2012-09-23, 01:35 | Link #126 | ||
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Defeating the boss and then being erased by the program seem pretty logical to me. An AI is a quasi-independent system; by exercising their choice and abusing their administrative powers, it's logical that they'd have their power revoked, and thus would disappear. (And I don't see why it's so surprising that Kirito and Asuna would get attached to her even in the short time they shared together. Even though it was sudden, it was like they adopted a daughter. They saw her as their child. Is that so strange?) So yeah... I really honestly don't understand the issue. The entire purpose of the conflict in this episode was to reveal Yui's identity as an AI. It's not like the plot developed this way because the author somehow painted himself into a corner -- the point is that *she is* a "God". I'm more surprised you didn't see this coming with all the hints last week... Quote:
I hope I will read it since you were responding to my post. Thanks for using a good, descriptive spoiler tag label!
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Forgive me for using the phrase, but to me it's no less than "vulnerable loli pandering" with subpar presentation. She was screaming to be felt sad for, which ultimately has the opposite effect... |
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2012-09-23, 01:52 | Link #130 |
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Holy moly budgeting! How not very surprising that A-1 Pictures starts to budget every single freakin' anime they make right at the half-way mark.
* Recycled ambient sound (hint: children saying things like "sensei", etc) * Slideshow combat (toads) * Wtf is wrong with this scene? (09:33) The floor and walls look like they're goo.. I don't even know how the hell they managed that. I don't even recall Celsys Retas having such a cheesy and terrible way of making 3d corridors.. God awful. |
2012-09-23, 01:53 | Link #131 | |
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And then the whole adopting thing is just crazy. I'm assuming that both Asuna and Kirito are teenagers. I can't imagine a couple that age coming across a lost child and thinking of it as their own. Maybe if enough time passes, but that's really stretching it. Moral of the story: Kirito needs to watch out because Asuna's maternal instinct is off the charts. She'd be pushing for a baby right away. |
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2012-09-23, 02:10 | Link #132 | ||
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OVA Chapter 16.5, anyone? On a serious note, though, Yui was designed. Yes. designed. to be totally approachable and cuddle-able... and talkable... and... you know......
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2012-09-23, 02:11 | Link #133 | ||
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I guess I can just say that I clearly didn't have the problem with it that you had. Quote:
I'm not sure they have much of anything in common with "normal teenagers" anymore.
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2012-09-23, 02:35 | Link #134 | |
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2012-09-23, 02:51 | Link #136 | |
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The family that wasn't meant to be was shorter than I thought. It was a nice breather, but having someone that over-powered would be counter-productive for the story. Imagine Yui at the front lines with Kirito and Asuna. Monster, bad, hurt daddy. Insta-kill level 99 boss. This is the quickest relationship I've ever seen. It went from kiss, to bed, to marriage, to honeymoon, to child, and finally to loss of child. That's usually reserved for half a lifetime, and they experienced it in... ummm.. about a week? Yui will be missed, but I'm guessing she will show up again someday.
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2012-09-23, 04:13 | Link #137 | |
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Yui is a literal Deus ex Machina. A lot of people just flatout don't like Deus ex Machinas (there's a reason why the term has a negative connotation amongst literary critics). Now, yes, the concept behind Yui is fine and makes some sense. So that makes her a bit easier to take than some other Deus ex Machina. But still, I personally would have preferred to have seen Asuna and Kirito not get saved by a Deus ex Machina but rather figure out how to handle this hidden boss themselves. I mean, hidden bosses are loads of fun in all sorts of games, but having them be defeated by a Deus ex Machina really takes the fun away, imo. Now, there are things I really liked about this episode. I've really come to like the romance between Kirito and Asuna. I found it kind of beautiful, really, when Asuna placed her sword in front of Kirito's just before the hidden boss made his attack. They really felt like a couple standing together as one, and Asuna felt like a mature woman proudly and strongly protecting the man she loves. The way Asuna and Kirito confronted the hidden boss was very compelling, which is partly why I wish it had been allowed to continue (even though I will admit that Yui's flaming sword of death was cool. ). But while there's a lot to like in SAO, I can see why the complaints keep mounting from week-to-week. The writer just pushes some things a bit too far (honestly, all those kids is a bit much - yes, 2 or 3 would be fine, but this number really is needlessly pushing things), and the writer (or at least, the anime) just pushes things too fast, imo.
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2012-09-23, 04:29 | Link #138 | |
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I also don't think Yui can be consider DeM. We saw she wasn't a normal character last week when she affected that area when she got upset.
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2012-09-23, 04:56 | Link #139 |
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That flaming sword. I'm wondering if Kirito and Asuna will eventually pick up something of similar strength and power? They will definitely need it later when the level bosses are too high.
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He knew the keywords, and the scripting / admin language does make sense it would be based on some defacto standard of the day. Being 10 years in the future we should expect a host of game engine components, and generic tools, to become so mature, flexible and optimized that developers wouldn't bother reimplementing them. Especially considering Kayaba did a lot of it by himself suggests there was very little reinvention of wheels involved.
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