2009-07-06, 00:07 | Link #921 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2007
|
That is because Org adopt an attitude of making them and lose them on claymores. If they trained them properly, and have older and more experienced claymore mentor younger ones on youki control, raise youki and teach techniques etc, I wouldn't be surprised even the weakest claymores would be comparable to top 10 and there will plenty of top 3 material. Then 24 claymores can prob take on 24 average ABs or even prob enough to take on 1 AO. You also wouldn't be limit to 47 claymore per generation, you can literally have thousands or tens of thousands.
|
2009-07-06, 00:14 | Link #923 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2008
|
Well, actually, if the Org creates 47 equally strong Claymores they would have little control over them. As it is now, they try to earn the loyalty of the top ranks to intimidate the lowers. Even so, it's still not very effective. There are still too many ABs running around. Luckily for the Org, most of them sucks or they are intended to suck
|
2009-07-06, 01:16 | Link #927 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2007
|
Quote:
|
|
2009-07-06, 01:17 | Link #928 |
Protecting the Throne
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Asia Tour
Age: 32
|
I like Riful but personally, it doesn't matter much for me if she dies or not. Well, I'm not an evil person to want her to die or anything but I kinda try to think in advance of the story speculating on whose gonna die. Riful doesn't really play anymore very important parts in the story right after this chapter. Well Raciella's awakened, guess Riful's part is pretty much finished. Given that Isley's dead, I think all the 3 Abyssal Ones are going down.
__________________
|
2009-07-06, 01:25 | Link #929 | |
Transient Guest
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Canada
|
Quote:
I asked you what it would take for the DoDs to be worse than the MiBs. You answered genocidial - fair enough, that would be worse. Now, I have to ask, do you think it's likely? We have no evidence that the DoDs have committed any atrocities what-so-ever, or even that they started the fight for that matter. The only thing we know is they allied with themselves with a powerful race of DoDs (and as I said earlier, in eastern mythology dragons are more often than not good guys) The only reason that anyone would believe the MiBs are the good guys is because the story is from the perective of Clare, who is definitely a good person as is her immediate circle of aquaintances (ghosts, raki, father vincent, etc). In real life though, there are good people on both sides of a conflict/war - they just happen to be trying to kill each other because from their perspectives what they are doing is right. That's life. Surely you don't believe that all 16 year old enlisted privates in the German army during WWII were like Hitler? In short, in order to continue to believe that the DoDs are the bad guys, due to the volume of wrong doings by the MiBs, you are almost forced to believe the DoDs are evil incarnate - genocidal maniacs on and insane quest to conquer and purge all life from the planet or something. Now, I ask you, do you think Yagi would ever give us such a one dimensional villian? Even Ophelia and the bandits had much more depth than that. Characters in Claymore act for personal reasons - and "I want to be evil" is typically not one of them. At the moment I'm having a difficult time believing the DoD side is evil, so I believe anyone using this line of reasoning as a premise for further arguments is assuming a little more than is safe to assume. That's all. |
|
2009-07-06, 02:18 | Link #930 | |
Protecting the Throne
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Asia Tour
Age: 32
|
Quote:
What was it with the bandits?
__________________
|
|
2009-07-06, 02:30 | Link #931 |
Banned
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: The town where Copernicus was born.
Age: 38
|
Yay! Even though shrimpy resigned from translating Claymore Gernot took his place. And I have a question. In cnet's translation on page 28 we have
"Despite your human forms, you're the first to ever damage me to this extent..." but according to Gernot this: 人型といえ ここまでされたのは初めてよ should be translated to: "I’m in my human form, but still, this is the first time anyone’s gotten me this badly". Both versions make sense but Gernot's would be my choice. Even if Riful was slashed to the head it would do nothing to her but her flesh was devoured by ZACS and I doubt anything like that happened to her earlier. Also I doubt she ever fought with other abyssals and ordinary awakened beings most likely avoided her so her comment "despite your human forms" couldn't mean much because claymores were probably the only worthy opponents she had. AB she obliterated in seconds would probably be owned by Rachel and Audrey. Also on the last page: Gernot's version: The first target is the abyssal one. cnet's: Their first target is the Abyssal One. Since Alicia is saying this Gernot's version makes more sense. |
2009-07-06, 03:25 | Link #932 | |
Clamotgun
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: UK
|
Quote:
so there you go even i translated it differently... as for 人型といえ ここまでされたのは初めてよ Even though I'm in my human form, still this is the first time anyone's gotten me this much. You guys... I'm gonna mince you such that you'll regret having such durable bodies... Last edited by sonotme_9FedriqSama; 2009-07-06 at 04:30. |
|
2009-07-06, 05:55 | Link #934 | |
Transient Guest
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Canada
|
Quote:
From what I've been able to find, the "to ie" is something called the past concessive form of "to iu" (to say) - making it "though [we] say"/"though saying" (i.e. "human form though saying"). So if I'm right, it's: "even though saying it's the human form, to be able to come this far (lit: be able to do upto here), is a first" In any event, it looks to me like Riful means that even though she is in human form... |
|
2009-07-06, 06:10 | Link #935 |
Transient Guest
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Canada
|
- They never attacked Teresa directly (until it was unavoidable). Classic evil attacks good guys whenever it finds them regardless of circumstances.
- They were revolted at Teresa's scar (a crime in itself). Normally nothing gets in the way of classic evil's lustful tendancies. - They did not behave uniformly - the only guy avenging his lost hand was the guy who lost it. Classic evil always behaves as a single entity. - The bandits wanted the treasure and slave potential from the village - they would have ignored Teresa if they could. Classic evil attacks everybody indiscriminantly. - The guy who lost the hand was the one beat up Clare (the thing that triggered their demise). I think the other bandits might have been more weary. - When the regular bandits saw they screwed up, they tried to run for it. Classic evil always fights to the death of the last man. It's not much, but even with Yagi showing us "something worse than youma", it's still not total typical cliche bad guys. |
2009-07-06, 07:44 | Link #937 | |
Warden of the West
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Casterly Rock
|
Quote:
But good idea, I should put that in bold. Thanks Anyway. I can't believe that Renne couldn't say who was stronger between Riful and Raciella.
__________________
Last edited by MisterJB; 2009-07-06 at 08:05. |
|
2009-07-06, 09:32 | Link #938 | |
Protecting the Throne
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Asia Tour
Age: 32
|
Quote:
__________________
|
|
2009-07-06, 09:55 | Link #940 |
Clamotgun
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: UK
|
I would like to point out one thing about fighting sstyles of AO's...Riful's tentacles are flexible and has both long and short attack...unlike Isleys weapons which were all rigid...arrows, swords, claws... all rigid weapons against hippity hoppiting AF's...will definately allows AF's to slip past it...where as with Riful her body itself is weapon and she can change the directions of her tentacles...what do you guys think?
One more thing...will clare ever meet with Abyss feeders....I want to see her slash some AF's Last edited by sonotme_9FedriqSama; 2009-07-06 at 10:12. |
|
|