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2010-06-06, 15:10 | Link #142 |
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That wasn't me talking about a coma theory, this is more them getting a second life after they die, so rather than dissapearing into nothingness, they dissapear back to the real world where they didn't suffer and lived normal lives. I'd really like that ending because it'd mean everyone could meet again at some point.
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2010-06-06, 15:47 | Link #144 | |
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I wonder what will happen to angel when all is said and done. Will she finally move on herself or is she really an angel to help people move on. |
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2010-06-08, 14:37 | Link #146 | |||||||||||
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I hope none of you guys mind us hijacking this thread with our Towers of Text?
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And what does this prove that I don’t already know? I already knew that Hinata was with the SSS. Then it stands to reason that Hinata wouldn’t want to disappear because if he did he wouldn’t be in the SSS anymore and would've gone over to Kanade already. I don’t need to read chapter 3 to know that. That was a freaking given. My point is that Hinata wanting to catch the ball was his ‘true self’. It’s possible to have contradictory desires you know. And it’s possible to live by one desire, but, in the heat of the moment, choose the contradicting desire when ‘caught in the moment’. Quote:
Kanade never reacts to anything. She was shot in the freaking stomach and didn't react. She didn't look surprised when evil Tenshi appeared. And you can't use Evil Kanade as an example. That's evil Kanade. She was also evil (which Kanade wasn't). It takes a lot to make Kanade react (like her losing her meal ticket for her favourite food) Quote:
She did express emotion, though, which is contrary to your point. Just look at her and how she talks. She’s very pensive about it. Perhaps but I don’t think they factor in anyone who takes it too seriously than it ought to be. Quote:
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My point at the start was that Iwasawa's and Hinata's case were incomparable because Hinata had the luxruy of knowing beforehand, the situation whilst Iwasawa did not. You say that can't be since she sang that song for ages and must've known at some point. I said that was because she was 'caught in the moment' You're saying if she was caught in the moment she would've been actively avoiding disappearing. But that's the thing: She could only actively avoid disappearing if she knew the situation beforehand, which is what you're trying to prove. You're using the wrong example. People can get 'caught in the moment' before realising such a situation can occur, and that doesn't contradict the definition you gave at the start (and if it does, then I suggest you revise your definition) Quote:
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Yes it has. It was an important factor. Therefore, it was used in the anime. And you do realise that having a new naive character as the main protagonist was done specifically to do exactly that? Quote:
No. Well you can, but I don’t believe it makes your interpretation any more credible than mine. Have you never been in a shipping war? Quote:
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If I believe that Hinata cared more about inner peace at that time rather than taking care of Yuri then I’m going to believe their relationship did not evolve to such a degree. If you believe that it wasn’t Hinata’s ‘true self’ and he really does care more about Yuri then you’re obviously going to believe it did evolve to such a degree. But you can’t then use that as a premise to prove that it’s wasn’t Himata’s true self’ at that time. That’s circular.
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less qq; more pewpew
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party = playing baseballCatching the ball is part of the game. Hinata doesn't want to avoid that. However, he doesn't know that catching that ball would result in disappearance, and by the time it should have occurred to him, he was already caught in the moment. Same with the party -- chatting with people is part of the party, but he did not know that going to Table01 and chatting with person A, B and C will result in him taking a few shots (he could be lost in the conversation or peer pressured or w/e). Quote:
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Then why did you say that Hinata didn't know how to disappear? Why did you say that he didn't pick himself up, and that he only stuck to Yuri because he didn't know how to disappear (when he clearly knows otherwise)? Why are you saying that he cared more about his disappearance when he clearly never pursued it after his talk with Ooyama? Quote:
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2010-06-10, 05:30 | Link #149 |
そんなやさしくしないで。。。
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Guys, can you make it more concise? It's interesting to read but dear god is it a giant wall of text.
Or, you know what? Give a week or 2 without any walls of text, refine both of your points, and present an essay on it or something. then we can vote on who's point of view we agree on! |
2010-06-10, 06:05 | Link #150 |
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We're not trying to entertain you. ¬_____¬
Anyway, if we wanted to make this easier we would simply wait for the next three episodes and see who's right. Nevertheless... Spoiler for what must be, must be...:
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Edit: Oh. Nice picture. I guess i'm echoing Haak then. Though I'm more interested in what the shadows are. |
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2010-06-10, 17:59 | Link #154 |
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So what are the "shadows"?
1: They are similar to the "Langoliers" 2: They are the result of an imbalance of too many people not willing to let go of their regrets and it is the world's attempt to "purge" itself 3: Residual affects of Kanade's Harmonics 4: Someone else has created them for their own nefarious purposes Note that Kanade stated that her guardian skills were created for defense, but she already had Hand Sonic long before the SSS was created. So they were created to defend against what? Clearly not for the random student (Chaa) that barges into the principal's office and threaten the principal. |
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2010-06-11, 00:45 | Link #156 |
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I have a thought for those who are still clinging to the hope that the characters are merely in a coma. Numbers.
If this show had only one character who thought he/she was dead, that would be a possibility. But currently, we have a dozen speaking characters in that condition. If they all thought they "died" in the same incident, I might buy that they're all comatose, but they didn't. That's just the begining, behind the dozen or so regular SSS members we see regularly, Yurippe mentioned they had several dozen more members. Indeed, they had enough to field several baseball teams in episode 4. Then, you have to include the people in the Guild, that's another 3 or 4 dozen, I think. That's nearly a hundred people, but it doesn't end there. Not everyone who appears here joins the SSS. Some choose a "normal" life instead, then "disappear" shortly. I wouldn't be surprised if the number of these people are several times that of the SSS. So there's one, possibly two to five hundred people from the mortal world (very likely only from Japan and aged between 15-19) in this school, with a small number arriving or leaving at any time. Do you really think it's possible that Japan has that many 15-19 year olds in a coma, falling into a coma or waking from a coma regularly? I don't think so. |
2010-06-11, 05:32 | Link #160 |
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And I have a thought for those who believe that the characters are truly dead and in some type of afterlife/purgatory/limbo. Numbers. In this case, the numbers 0 and 1. Since when was the afterlife in binary? We know that Kanade derives her powers from a piece of software, we even see the binary digits when she uses her skills. And even the world's self-repair mechanism has "Matrix-like" visual effects - for example, the lamp repairing itself at 23:12 in episode 1. This is no afterlife for the dead, this is a virtual reality for the living.
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