(L) Shokugeki no Soma [Manga]

[DragonOsman]

Well, yeah, you're also right (though for Eizan, he probably knew that Souma might be able to beat him if they fought fair and square and was just chickening out - that and he also didn't want to risk losing his seat in the Elite 10. Basically the same reason why he and others didn't want to accept challenges from Erina and other people). But on the point of the Autumn Election, she didn't want to believe he'd be good enough to even reach the Finals in it, even though she knew in her mind that he actually is that good. She was stubbornly denying it because of the reasons Night_sentinel mentioned.

[night_sentinel]

Originally Posted by Sixth

To be fair, Eizan who loathed at Soma's existence didn't shokugeki Soma for explusion either. While Erina didn't actively trying to get Soma expelled, she did try to use her authority to prevent Soma from participating the Autumn Election only to found herself got overruled by other elite members.

Maybe Soma was indeed a scrub in Erina's eye at that time, and she probably have a faith that Tootsuki's exam system will be sufficient to get Soma expelled, and there was no reason for someone with high status such as her needs to dirty her own hand to have shokugeki with a scrub.

...or Plot.

Basically what DragonOsman said, but to add something.

I think one of the major difference between Erina and Eizan is the fact that if Erina wanted/believed something badly enough she goes and do it herself. As seen when Erina directly challenged an RS club and bet her seat because she honestly believed that said RS club isn't needed in Totsuki.

Eizan, greedy capitalist that he is, won't risk losing his E10 seat without the challenger not giving an equal collateral. He is also the type that won't get his hand dirty, metaphorically speaking. Even his last match, with the biased judge is stacked in such a way that Eizan isn't even needed to cook.

Erina moves by her principle, misguided said principles may be in the early parts of the manga, while Eizan moves by what would benefit him the most. Its also why Erina didn't move against her father until she is convinced that her bastard of a father, "there is only one best way to cook things", is wrong.

That same rule also applies to Soma in the early part of the manga. While everything Erina learned is saying that Soma is supposed to be a scrub, she has an empirical evidence that he is not. Which is a contradiction. Which is why Erina didn't take any action while gloating whenever Soma would get expelled. Because as you've said, if Soma got expelled through Totsuki that meant Erina is validated. If he didn't, well, Erina did change her mind as the autumn finals shows.

[Idealist 99]

Originally Posted by DragonOsman

Well, it's still a defeat flag for Hayama. Hopefully it's not a red-herring and Souma really will win this. We'll see.

@Log: Yeah, that's a good point about Eizan, but the other third- and second-years also don't want to lose their seats, so even if Erina were better than them and challenged them, they'd refuse the challenge. I know that. But if both sides agree to a Shokugeki with an Elite 10 seat on the line, it's unlikely for the one who isn't more skilled than the other to get the seat. There are exceptions to every rule. Right?

The problem , Hayama already found the person he wish to cook for.
He has Jun.
So , He might win due to this one Plot armor that he fight for Jun.
Therefore , He seem like a opponent that Soma can not beat unless he find someone important to fight for.
I just hope He desire to save Erina & Tootsuki can suppress Hayama's love for Jun.

[Hakai]

I was thinking, what kind of advantage does Erina get for having god tongue as a chef?

We know she's good but can she do the same thing as Hayama where she makes a dish that almost no one can make or copy?

[GDB]

Because of her training, she knows how to make things taste very specific ways (see back in early chapters where she'd tell people, based on taste, that they let it cook for 2 seconds too long or whatever).

So you could say her and Hayama have a very similar skill set, but his is instinct while her's is ingrained knowledge. As for "face of the cook", I imagine she'd be similar to Tsukasa where it's just such a precise and perfect dish that no one else could do it.

[Sixth]

Originally Posted by Cake-Carrot

I was thinking, what kind of advantage does Erina get for having god tongue as a chef?

We know she's good but can she do the same thing as Hayama where she makes a dish that almost no one can make or copy?

Maybe it works like sharingan? She can replicate a dish just by eating the food once since she can easily pinpointed the required ingredients needed and how the ingredients cooked?

But seriously, being food critic is definitely more suitable for her.

[DragonOsman]

What GDB said. To add: I think she could use her "God's Tongue" ability to taste her own food and determine what it lacks or doesn't lack and alter it based on that if needed. The "God's Tongue" shouldn't just be limited to tasting others' food, after all. She'd be better than anyone else in being able to tell how good her own food is and what it's lacking in, if at all (better than any other chef in preparing food via tasting, like in cooking experiments and preparations like the ones Souma does before a Shokugeki or any other cooking event).

@Idealist 99: Well, Souma's plot armor protects him from being expelled, so there's that. And I think Souma could find a strength different from the one that comes from cooking for a woman, though I do wish he'd start cooking for Erina after falling in love with her. Right now, though, since he probably doesn't have feelings for her, he can cook for the Polar Star Dorm and to impress Erina so he can make her say that his cooking is delicious like he's always wanted throughout this manga.

And the "find a woman you're willing to give all the food you cook to" thing was something Jouchirou said. That's his own way. It's not set in stone that all cooks will gain strength from love or something similar because Jouchirou said it.

And I think if he can make his own "face" appear in his dish, he'll be able to beat Hayama either way. Because aside from that, he should at least tie with him. The judges in the Autumn Election said that all three made outstandingly great food, and that that's why they looked for who it was that was able to make his "face" appear in his dish. If they're equally as good outside of that, then Souma should beat him if he can also make his "face" appear in his dish.

[Kafriel]

Originally Posted by Sixth

Maybe it works like sharingan? She can replicate a dish just by eating the food once since she can easily pinpointed the required ingredients needed and how the ingredients cooked?

But seriously, being food critic is definitely more suitable for her.

That's an interesting opinion. Taking into account her...training, and what constitutes a good and bad dish, Erina is probably one of the worst people to have as a critic when judging plates that have not been made with Azami's recipes.

I'm not saying she hasn't evolved since chapter 1, but aren't her standards basically what Azami taught her?

[DragonOsman]

But she doesn't really suck as a critic. She gives good advice on other people's dishes and if it weren't for her, the Polar Star Dorm wouldn't have been ready for the current exams. She trained them and that's why they'll likely pass (most, if not all, of them will). There's a reason why big name chefs from big restaurants come asking her for food tasting.

[Sixth]

Originally Posted by Kafriel

That's an interesting opinion. Taking into account her...training, and what constitutes a good and bad dish, Erina is probably one of the worst people to have as a critic when judging plates that have not been made with Azami's recipes.

I'm not saying she hasn't evolved since chapter 1, but aren't her standards basically what Azami taught her?

Well, she was still working as a food critic since chapter 1. Azami's influence over her was never affected her judgement that much, at least. She was tasting her clients's food at professional level on regular basis and she was willingly to point out what her client's dishes lack of and what they need to do to improve it instead tossing it into dustbin. So, I really doubt that she was judging those foods with Azami's standard.

Even without her personality, you cannot deny that "god tongue" is literally an ultimate tool to taste the food.

[GDB]

She's a good critic, but her problem (until recently) was that she felt there was only one way to fix a dish that was "broken". Polar Star showed her that's not the case by not perfectly following her instructions (but still taking the premise of them) to fix them in ways she couldn't imagine.

[DragonOsman]

Yeah, true. She can tell what's wrong with a dish, but the Polar Star residents had to show her that there's more than way to fix a dish she flagged as bad in any way.

[xellos2099]

Actually, did Kuga's chinese club got disbanded as well? I mea his follow still following him all the time like an army.

[Hakai]

Originally Posted by xellos2099

Actually, did Kuga's chinese club got disbanded as well? I mea his follow still following him all the time like an army.

Those guys are like his Hisako(s).
They'll likely keep following him under any circumstances.

[DragonOsman]

Lol, yeah, that's a great way to put it. But the RS itself is likely already gone.

[Sixth]

Originally Posted by xellos2099

Actually, did Kuga's chinese club got disbanded as well? I mea his follow still following him all the time like an army.

Hard to say....those followers might be his personal bodyguards that he hired to protect himself from Azami BS.

[Xero8420]

They're his die-hard "徒弟". Wherever he go, they will follow.

[Sixth]

Spoiler for Chapter 182 Image:

What is the chances for that person with braid is Megumi?

[GDB]

Hard to say without context, but I'd say 0.3%.

[mangatron]

It's a guy. See? Hayama has a ponytail

*runs*