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I said Britannia had the potential to do good, it just needed someone in charge that had the ability to do it. Quote:
Though I question Britannia prior to Charles because as one UFN pointed out, she said that should puts all blame on "Charles" and not Britannia itself. And as Schenizeil found out, the real reason behind Charles' aggressive expanionist policy was to aquire those ruins which makes me wonder what Britannia in general would've been before. |
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2010-01-08, 18:01 | Link #6623 |
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Japan before Britannia conquered it really wasn't that much better. They tried to use their Sakuradite to one up the other countries and the Japanese people including a young Kaguya and Suzaku were pretty assholish to non Japanese people. Even Kallen as a half Britannian was given a hard time by the full Japanese people until it was taken over and they accepted whoever they could get.
So really in the end every country was trying to get on up on others and racist to anyone from other countries. I guess Geass is really is a grey and grey world. |
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2010-01-08, 19:55 | Link #6625 | |
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It would have taken much longer than months. More like years. With conventional arms, they'd have never rooted out all the Japanese forces. Knightmares made that easy.
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2010-01-08, 20:33 | Link #6626 | |
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2010-01-08, 21:41 | Link #6627 | |
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The only reason why Japan fell quickly was because Suzaku panicked and killed his pop which caused them to surrender. Unfortunately for Britannia, this left a lot of larger than usual numbers for them to take care of which formed into strong insurgencies. None of the other Areas had that problem because they usually fought to the last and get wiped out pretty badly. As for the knightmares, they were only effective for ground operations meaning that the Britannians were able to establish aerial and naval supremancy in order to land their ground forces for the mop-up. |
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2010-01-08, 22:05 | Link #6628 | |
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Patently untrue. It is not necessary to completely establish aerial and naval superiority to land ground troops. A quick drop would be enough to get the Knightmares in, then they tear up the beach defenses. Knightmares completely altered the balance of power. They would not have been nearly as successful in a regular conflict.
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2010-01-08, 22:49 | Link #6629 |
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Japan is an island, and as such it would've been pretty easy for Britannia to blockade it and starve it into submission. The massive Britannian navy would've had no problem cutting off all shipping routes into and from Japan. Meanwhile the airforce indiscriminately carpet bombs all major cities. Starvation and massive casualties would break the people's will to resist, while the blockade would starve the Japanese war effort. Sure they have tons of sakuradite, but no raw materials to make tanks and planes etc.
This is a fact, how do I know? Real life, it worked for the US, why wouldn't work for Britannia which has access to a lot more manpower, and resources?
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2010-01-08, 23:09 | Link #6630 | |
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The Chinese Federation might not take it as well. It also depends on their standing military and ability to resist. Obviously they couldn't starve the country out, or just didn't try. Instead they got Knightmares and invaded.
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2010-01-09, 04:30 | Link #6631 |
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as much as i like this discussion and wish to see it continue
i have to point out that there is pretty much no mention at all of lelouch in it and hence this may not be the right thread for it
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The latter isn't completely apathetic to Numbers being treated like dirt, nor do they murder indiscriminately, so yeah. Quote:
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2010-01-11, 14:16 | Link #6634 |
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I'm not sure I get the point of the "it's the same in real life!" argument.
The government and certain instances do a lot of shit, but I highly doubt they are anywhere near Britannia. If they were, however, that would not mean that Britannia is awesome. It would mean that we need change - and quick. Anyway, maybe this discussion should be taken to another thread?
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2010-02-01, 19:59 | Link #6637 |
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Damn, missed political engagement, again. Too bad.
I think Of this: Lelouch was 'immature' during the start of the series, but he eventually started looking at the bigger picture, not just the part with Nunnally in it. Though he couldn't help find himself back at her, thats probably because thats where all his ideals originally came from. I can't say he is a bad person, just a good brother -- and a machinator. I like Lelou probably because of his tragedies, no greater hero then a tragic one in my opinion. (I'm keeping it vague and light as possible, just for those that haven't watched the entirety of it yet.) Beyond everything else, I think Lelouch examplifies a person at their best and worse. If I had to stick a quote on him, it would be "Hell is paved with good intentions." |
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...Although the good intentions kind of died pretty quickly. Oh well.
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2010-02-01, 22:46 | Link #6640 |
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Ahh, I guess you're right.
Code Geass is paved with good intentions, then. Who is Clovis? Oh right! the guy that died RIGHT at the beginning of the series, forgot about him. ....I also can't say Charlie struck me as the good guy. That pointed goatee kinda gave away his role. Spinzaku doesn't pave a way to hell, he wants to follow the yellow brick road to it. (Sarcasm) Schneizel impressed me, he made a wonderful nice doomsday flying fortress. He ran out of funds to do the final touch: paint a big smiley face on the front of it, smiley faces make everything better..! (again, sarcasm) "Damocles isn't here to hurt you, it's here to subjugate you all so peace can be achieved via forceful means!" ...Sorry, >:P That was my personal opinion. Spinzaku, Charlie the rocketcorn, and Schittles weren't right in my opinion, just on the right track. ..Now, back on Lelou! >=D |
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