2010-04-18, 00:34 | Link #6821 |
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Woobie Destroyer of Worlds is essentially Despair Event Horizon carried to destructive on a global scale levels. Lelouch's despair that resulted in his last few acts was more tragic and hurtful than wrong, as for the most part it was an aftereffect of all the suffering and mistakes he had endured, all the way from his childhood banishment from Britannia to the betrayal from the Black Knights.
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2010-04-18, 16:45 | Link #6825 |
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:P lol dude, that's like the minimum for understanding Zero: Requiem on even a basic level. Lelouch decided to kill himself after his confrontation with daddy in the World of C. Everything was already planned before he got out--in terms of the show, everything starting with the scene where he declared himself Emperor was already part of his plan to die.
As for your other question as to how Nunally understood Lelouch's plan in some other thread: it wasn't magic, it was just Nunally knowing Lelouch well enough. When Nunally felt Lelouch's feelings through his hand as he lay dying in front of her, basically she understood that he'd planned to die all along. That alone would be enough for Nunally to pretty much guess anything else she needed to--the exact details of everything don't really matter for her to know. |
2010-04-18, 17:06 | Link #6826 |
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Actually Lelouch was already looking to end himself right BEFORE his confrontation with Charles, to which effect he attempted to seal himself along with said father inside the World of C. Which of course never came to pass, as Charles, along with Marianne, was about to initiate the Ragnarok Connection, and Lelouch stopped that from happening. So the Zero Requiem was his subsequent, and this time, successful attempt at having himself offed.
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2010-04-21, 09:14 | Link #6827 | |
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And you are the only one that sees the ~~Hitler~~-Lelouch similarity? Ok, congratulations then. That one;s on you. |
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2010-04-21, 09:43 | Link #6828 |
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Yep, Lelouch did it all just because he hated his father.
...Sometimes I wonder if some people watched the wrong show. You know, one in which Lelouch is not concerned about people involved in car accidents (unlike everyone else present, including Rivalz), does not go on about how much it affected Suzaku and him to see people suffer as children and how he wants to end the "never ending chain of hated" because of that, in which he does not openly decide to change the world for everyone's sake seven episodes into the second season and knowingly goes against Nunnally's wishes, and in which he does not eventually admit that his sister might just have been an excuse, meaning that it was him who'd wanted a "gentle world" all along and just couldn't admit to having a pure, innocent wish despite being blood-stained and twisted. But of course, what he really meant was that he did it all out of hatred and threw Nunnally into the equation just to feel better about himself, because it's not like he was ever shown to give a damn about people, or like that's not at all his style as he's the complete opposite of S1!Suzaku who claimed to be just in this regard, or like every second damn preview talked about how he was stuck between the future (a gentle world) and the past (revenge), resulting in him eventually choosing the future over past and present. Oh, wait.
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2010-04-21, 14:01 | Link #6829 |
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Lelough is a bastard but he's not a goddamn bastard.
Maybe he had too much faith in himself, his logic, and humanity. We'll always argue if he did the right and that's probably the point. But its obvious he regretted every harsh decision he made, and he did not take any enjoyment out of the deaths he had a hand in. It doesn't excuse his actions, but he didn't find the demon role all that sweet.
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2010-04-22, 04:27 | Link #6830 | |
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2010-04-22, 05:44 | Link #6831 | ||
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Anyway, no one denied Lelouch had some serious issues. You're missing my point.
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2010-04-22, 11:34 | Link #6832 | |
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2010-04-22, 11:40 | Link #6833 | |
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Lelouch... I'm sure he has become a ghost haunting Suzaku's Zero outfit! And every night, he goes out to play with Schneizel. ...Uh, chess, of course. Echem. xD
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2010-04-22, 14:02 | Link #6834 | |
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>_< OH HOLY CRAP! Did I say that? Lelouch proved that the power of the king wasn't absolute. That is what touched C.C.. After living century after century, seeing people consumed by geass probably made her think it simply drove people mad or had them killed directly or indirectly. Lelouch was different. He fell into the dark chasm of despair, and he climbed out of it, into the light. Thus he has the 'soul of a king'. Interpretation from C.C.'s opening dialogue though Don't get me wrong, I am with the realistic fanbase on this one. Lelouch is dead, and I really really doubt he is coming back. xD "He is okay guys!" XD |
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2010-04-22, 14:23 | Link #6835 | |
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*nods in agreement*
Lelouch's perseverance and "kindness" changed C.C. in a way no one else could. He has that effect on people. Hum... "less"? o.o Quote:
They are doing push-ups? That's bad... I hope Lelouch didn't fall on top of Schenizel~ Poor guy. Being a s... sports slave must be hard, especially since Lelouch has to make up for a life-time of being sports-deprived. Ah, as long as he has the theory down!
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Nogitsune, we are going to hell for this. You know that? Oh well~ Last edited by xris; 2010-04-22 at 14:44. Reason: Don't make matters worse |
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Maybe Kannon could join them. He looked like he needed it when Lelouch got to Schneizel back in R2. If he'd just had the stamina to take on the guards... *shakes her head sadly* Quote:
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2010-04-24, 00:20 | Link #6838 | |
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if shnizel had won, the fight, and it resulted in world peace, would that make HIM "know best" ? what he saw in the world of peace does not translate into what he did people wanting a tomorrow might explain why he wanted to stop shnizel it does not explain what Z-R was about Quote:
THIS is the only path for him the scene in the end of ep 24 where he and shnizel are talking is basiclly the two of them discussing the merits of each others masterplans so yeah Quote:
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and hits the ground running from there on out the fact that he admits that he IS willing to kill nunnaly for the sake of this plan, indicates that he considers nothing to be more important then his "Vision" and the scene with C.C is bullshit its ment to mirror the scene in ep 23 of season 1, except that it misses the point what happened to euphie is a tragedy, so there is an actual reason to feel sympathy for Lelouch what happened in season 2 was Lelouch acting like a complete dick for an entire episode and then whining like a little girl he deserved worse
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You're conveniently ignoring that he did it on purpose to be the most hated person ever, and that his actions resulted in world peace. Hey, if the show says it worked, it worked. And you know, he did kind of die at the end, so it's not like he got away with it all. |
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