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Old 2018-06-16, 22:46   Link #3821
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actually if you pay attention the princess "disappeared" or is no more, you have only hiro and zero two in the cabin, this means which the princess or just "disappeared or "merged with zero two(what remains of her).
You're not considered "dead" in anime until they show your body. She could be passed out in the floor of the cabin. And...since she's the only one who knows how to fight VIRM, she would have to remain alive.
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Old 2018-06-16, 23:08   Link #3822
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They want " peace " doesn't make them good guys to begin with , horrible action always come with good intentions .

To them , peace for galaxy mean everyone must be devoured by VIRM , get rid of physical body and become one with the energy , to me that sound horrible ...
Obviously, I never Ever implied in the slightest for VIRM to be noble or good.

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As some other have pointed out, the Kalosaur princess ended up being a foil for Zero-Two and Hiro. Shes been alone for millions of years and is apparently the last of her race (rest having either turned to magma energy or become one with their war machines). We got an indirect answer as to why she never attempted to persuade humanity. Her solo purpose to get revenge on the Virm when they returned. It seems her civilization is for the most part dead and shes stuck around only to see how many Virm she could kill. She seemed to have gained a sense of hope from the bond between Hiro and Zero Two.
I see two extreme opposites in that spectrum:
- One camp follows the leadership like naive sheep with regard to neither think for themselves nor being aware that something is off.

- The other camp completely shut themselves from the rest of the world only obsessing to take care of the enemy with whatever means possible.

The Nines, almost if not all of the other parasites, and, formerly, Squad 13 fall in the first category.

The klaxx-hime, the klaxxosaurs, and, formerly, Zero Two fall in the second category.

The show pretty much portrays that going into either extreme at the long run will yield nothing but a path towards self-destruction.

However, since through their journey of trials and tribulations, Squad 13 and Zero Two learned to truly accept each other, to forgive past slights, to truly trust each member, and to realize that what's most important is that all must take care of their own group and home as a community of friends agreeing that putting aside their differences for the common good and survival is of the best interest for the team.

I truly felt overjoyed when all Squad 13 lent their help to Zero Two in order to reunite her with Hiro, and how she truly reciprocated those feelings of comradeship behind their actions.
In fact, hearing Zero Two addressing both Ichigo and Goro by their names out of geniune worry and care for their welfare became a bliss.
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Old 2018-06-16, 23:26   Link #3823
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In fact, hearing Zero Two addressing both Ichigo and Goro by their names out of geniune worry and care for their welfare became a bliss.
And this is the pay off for all those slice of life episodes. The bond between squad 13 seems genuine because of all the time we have spent with them and watching the slow process of Zero Two coming to understand what it means to be human.
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Old 2018-06-16, 23:49   Link #3824
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Are people just forgetting what the Princess said before she gave Zero Two her power?

She's Not Dead, Chill with the death threats gogoanime people XD
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Old 2018-06-16, 23:57   Link #3825
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You're not considered "dead" in anime until they show your body. She could be passed out in the floor of the cabin. And...since she's the only one who knows how to fight VIRM, she would have to remain alive.
i didn't say which she was "dead" i say she disappeared, but if you follow her "final speech" it's make seens which she really vanquished, since she told which now mankind work to save the world, she used her "last remains of power" to give to zero 2, if anything she could had ended merging with zero 2.

Ofcourse until next episode come we can't say for sure if she is dead or no, but she is really missing and following her speech it's really looks like which at last her "physical body is no more and at best she is now part of zero 2.

Ofcourse it's only expeculation but it's really looks like that.

And to be fair "even if you have a body in anime, the person can come back, even when you saw the body.
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Old 2018-06-17, 00:03   Link #3826
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Are people just forgetting what the Princess said before she gave Zero Two her power?

She's Not Dead, Chill with the death threats gogoanime people XD
No...her conscience is just stuck downloaded in the Strelzia Apath when the machine's Windows program crashed.

Now, who's going to want to chance a reboot with no backup?

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i didn't say which she was "dead" i say she disappeared, but if you follow her "final speech" it's make seens which she really vanquished, since she told which now mankind work to save the world, she used her "last remains of power" to give to zero 2, if anything she could had ended merging with zero 2.

Ofcourse until next episode come we can't say for sure if she is dead or no, but she is really missing and following her speech it's really looks like which at last her "physical body is no more and at best she is now part of zero 2.

Ofcourse it's only expeculation but it's really looks like that.

And to be fair "even if you have a body in anime, the person can come back, even when you saw the body.

Just because you give someone your strength does not mean you're dead or merged with them. People did the same thing in an episode of Black Clover and everyone survived. Besides, her speech to the remaining humans was after she gave her strength to 02. Dead people don't talk. So, she's pretty much alive I bet.
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Old 2018-06-17, 01:22   Link #3827
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001 is dead, get over it...
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Old 2018-06-17, 01:53   Link #3828
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001 is dead, get over it...
The end of a species can't be this anti-climatic
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Old 2018-06-17, 01:56   Link #3829
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No...her conscience is just stuck downloaded in the Strelzia Apath when the machine's Windows program crashed.

Now, who's going to want to chance a reboot with no backup?




Just because you give someone your strength does not mean you're dead or merged with them. People did the same thing in an episode of Black Clover and everyone survived. Besides, her speech to the remaining humans was after she gave her strength to 02. Dead people don't talk. So, she's pretty much alive I bet.
that is why i told which she "become part of zero two", if her body really disappeared or her physical form is really dead then her "mind could had go to zero two and now you have 2 peoples inside zero two which lead to my theory about the end:
Spoiler:
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Old 2018-06-17, 03:33   Link #3830
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*watches episode 21*

*facepalm*
Whatever...
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Old 2018-06-17, 04:34   Link #3831
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*watches episode 21*

*facepalm*
Whatever...
Look, it at least wasn't quite as bad as the two that preceded it, it had decent pacing for one . Let's take what we can get .
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Old 2018-06-17, 05:37   Link #3832
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Is there any chance we get to see Goro x Ichigo in the next 3 episodes ?

As for Ikuno and Futoshi....ummm.....well....maybe they can get an Isekai summoning to a fantasy world and get their own suitable romantic partners in that other world instead
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Old 2018-06-17, 06:58   Link #3833
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So I noticed in the subtitles they were called Apath but in the computer screen after Zero Two takes over, it was called Apus.
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Old 2018-06-17, 07:11   Link #3834
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CR quality, as usual. Better than nothing, in a sense...
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Old 2018-06-17, 07:20   Link #3835
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Old 2018-06-17, 09:38   Link #3836
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ah yes, i've read this one somewhere before..
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Old 2018-06-17, 10:05   Link #3837
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The creative process behind this show is so


I've grown to like this trainwreck though. The episode this week was a blockbuster epic making up for its weak narration and inconsistent pacing with its energy and grand-scale perspective. It ended up fine, if problematic in so many ways and aspects. The usual for this series I guess, that's why I keep watching it.
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Old 2018-06-17, 12:25   Link #3838
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The gestalt aliens came, ate every single civilian person then took their colossal phallic object and fled when confronted...


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ah well, at least 02's parts were nice. Although 01.....if you still had strength left to fight, maybe not derping and letting yourself be assimilated by some hive mind and actually doing something with your fuck-hueg mech would be a good idea lol


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^After the Ichigo outrage, they rewrote the script to be more moderate
Afraid of pissing more people they devised a "true enemy" that is perfectly alien so it's not offending any races and groups
Yeah.......right. The general plot was done long before everything else.
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Old 2018-06-17, 12:44   Link #3839
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I know im late for the dicussion regarding te trainwreck due to entrance exam and stuff, but still i want to voice my opinion if that’s okay with you guys.

Firstly, to determine whether or not the reveal is that dumb, let revisit a certain anime that DarFranxx tried to ripoff to see how they manage their big revelation.

There is none.

We finish the show without knowing anything about the nature of Eva, Angel, Adam, Lilith. We only
learn about those from some PS2 game. And by doing so, Anno avoid a trainwreck, by not making the climax of the show, being a huge bombastic battle, rather he made it more psychological, which is exactly what the show did in it runtime. I mean rather than letting the last five episodes being an epic battle in which the monolith guys have an all out attack on NERV or Lilith rising from and fights everyone, instead he lets everyone talk about their feeling. Thank you, Anno.

But the problem is, DarFranxx right from the start was filled with big action scenes, making the opponent a huge alien armada to me isnt that big of a deal. And i know there are people who think it is because the show was serious so suddenly alien is breaking the tone. I know this is personal preference, but to me, the show was always more on the sci-fi side right from the beginning, i mean APE can never be anything rather than either AI or alien, with the way they are established.

I think the problem is that their are too many thing introduced in a very short period of time. VIRM, Star thingy, 01, well, FRANXX are Klaxosaur and Klaxosaur are Dinoman are pretty preditable, but they still count-

So what do you guys think ? And im sorry in advance if i sound impolite or didnt make my point in anyway. English is not my mother tongue, and my vocabulary is bad...
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Old 2018-06-17, 13:43   Link #3840
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I really hate Eva's original ending. And plenty of fans of the show did as well, its the whole reason end of Eva was made. That ending felt like all the character development and plot of the show was a huge waste of time and threw it whole sale out the window. Which made me wonder why bother with so many episodes of the show when little of it matter to the ending.

Yeah, I know theres plenty of defenders of the original ending but its the epitome of a controversial anime ending. And frankly, while I can appreciate what the ending attempted to do, I don't want to see such an ending again.

*Deim |Envy| Astaroth

This isn't meant as a rebuttal of anything you said, I suppose the Original Eva ending just triggers me. lol

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I think the problem is that their are too many thing introduced in a very short period of time. VIRM, Star thingy, 01, well, FRANXX are Klaxosaur and Klaxosaur are Dinoman are pretty preditable, but they still count-
We agree on that. I don't think any of the elements of plot as bad per say in the show, they just needed to be executed better. If EP 21 is any indication, we are going to a strong finish because while the plot hasn't been handled the best, the characters have been portrayed well enough that a lot of people watching the show care about the fate of these kids. Thats a success.

Kind of reminds me of Gundam IBO which had its own pacing/story issues but made you care about the characters pretty well.
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