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Perfect 10 | 17 | 25.37% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 17 | 25.37% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 22 | 32.84% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 7 | 10.45% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 2 | 2.99% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 0 | 0% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 0 | 0% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 2 | 2.99% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 0 | 0% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 0 | 0% | |
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2015-02-08, 00:41 | Link #81 | |
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Creepy Slaine is creepy. |
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2015-02-08, 00:42 | Link #82 | |
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2015-02-08, 00:45 | Link #83 | |
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Honestly, I'm kind of surprised that Maazurek became a major character- I thought he'd end up as one of the "mecha of the week" knights/counts like Trillram, Vlad, Femieanne, and Yaocym. That said, now that I think about the last episode, the fact that Maazurek is not a sadistic genocidal racist probably did foreshadow this some. From what I've seen this episode, it looks like the "Game of Vers" is shaping up to be a 4-way conflict between Mazuurek (and by extension Inaho), Slaine, Marlycian (and the other anti-Slaine counts), and Lemrina. Although I suspect Marlycian gets eliminated next episode. I almost get the feeling Lemrina is planning to manipulate the other counts against Slaine, and thus her sister as well, likely with her attempting to eliminate Asseylum altogether and literally take her place using the hologram, living the rest of her live as her sister. |
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2015-02-08, 00:50 | Link #84 |
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Wow, robotic Inaho felt like human in this episode, little bit but still. Still boring character, but that was surprising.
Earth is still pathetic as ever if they let a hostage that important escape so easily. They got a damn count, a freaking count! Yet he got away so easily, what the hell. God, this show need to stop dumbing down everyone. Rayet was the best part of this episode. I would like to see more of her, she is one of the few characters who have more than one dimension. I think this show would be more interesting if Inaho was more like Rayet, a flaw character that would contrast to Slaine. More I think about it, she would be better as the main character.
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2015-02-08, 01:26 | Link #85 |
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The whole caged bird reference was referring to both Asseylum and Lemeria. Asseylum is obvious and Lemeria is basically just a glorified prisoner on that base whose only role is to continue being her sister's imposter.
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2015-02-08, 01:41 | Link #86 |
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I hope Slaine keeps his adoration in check. It would be too easy to fault his future failings to this which is too easy a route to take. He's owned his decisions thus far and I would like to see it keep that way.
The duel seems unneeded to me. I would expect it to take a meaningful direction regardless of the outcome since we know that Count would have it in for Slaine regardless he wins or loses and the show's time could be better spent on other things.
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2015-02-08, 01:46 | Link #87 | ||||
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And interestingly, Inko reminds me of Shirley in CG, she's the friend who likes Inaho and now knows too much and she doesn't know what she's going to do with that information. I'm honestly not sure what she's going to do. Though, I'm not sure, but Darzana might suspect from the way her face looked when they said the prisoner escaped. Also, with Inaho now an officer, he can get in a whole lot of trouble for this. Quote:
And Inaho's targeting is a lot more personal than Slaine's, he's the one who mentions him all the time and actively goes looking for him in battle. Slaine might have originally set up the trap for Inaho, but that was because he is the most dangerous obstacle on the battlefield and should be taken out first. It wasn't personal. In fact, the fact that he changed that plan to target Saazbaum after the man named him his heir, shows that his mind is on his own plans and the endgame, not some kind of personal grudge or anything. Quote:
As for the coma, we don't know how hurt she was, but it was obviously very life-threatening, almost to the point of death since the Aldnoah drive in the Duecalion shut off again. Her slipping into a coma, considering the initial injury and the fact later brain damage could come in just them trying to get her to the moonbase, is very likely. And once you're in one and totally unresponsive, it's unknown when you'll wake up. And Slaine has already displayed and stated his heartfelt desire for her to awaken. If he didn't want that, he would be making excuses as to why she should stay sleeping. As for the use of Lemrina, it makes some sense on a lot of levels if you consider what Saazbaum was trying to do. He needed to save face after having lost the battle, his kat, and his castle to the Terrans. How to do this? Say that he sacrificed it all to save the surprisingly-alive Princess Asseylum. But he can't show the real one since she's been horribly injured and shot with a Martian gun, if the bullets are still in her, an analysis could tell that the bullets came from Vers. Also it wouldn't look good that he didn't protect her to the point of her being on her deathbed. So, instead he uses Lemrina as a double. It works in two ways, since he saves face, and has a mouthpiece that can order the men to do what he wants. Also, when the Emperor dies, he can replace him with Lemrina, who he can control. After Saaz's death though, Slaine just can't get rid of Lemrina since everyone already thinks the princess is alive and has thought so for more than a year. So, he's kind of stuck with her, unless he has another plan in which we are not aware. Quote:
As for Mazuurek, I'm sure he'll be pretty important for both Inaho and Slaine. He's touched upon parts of both their goals during the interrogation, and he's on a mission to find out what Slaine is up to. The only issue is, I'm not sure how good the guy is with subterfuge. He doesn't seem to have much guile to him, especially to someone who's become experience with it like Slaine. We'll have to see how he does after Slaine wipes the floor with that idiot, Marylcian.
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2015-02-08, 02:01 | Link #89 | |
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2015-02-08, 02:21 | Link #90 | |
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We could interpret lot of thing as creepy. For one, Inaho checking girl's weight can be seen as creepy, but lot of people seem to see that his "charm".
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2015-02-08, 02:22 | Link #91 |
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at this point , what can UFE do even if they know that Inaho let the prisoner free ? i mean he is earth only and i mean only freaking hope , you get this dude in martial court , the whole planet is done for by vers .. lol , Inaho as all the card in his hands right now , and a lot of odd on his side to remain free with no consequence, call it plot or whatever, you want , but it like in this sport Team , where the ACE always get away with being a jerk , just because he make the team win .. Inaho is UFE's Ace
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2015-02-08, 02:26 | Link #92 | |
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Another thing that people need to consider is that Inaho, by letting Rayet help free the prisoner, is putting her in lot danger. If they get caught, Rayet would be called traitor and a spy.
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2015-02-08, 02:34 | Link #93 | ||
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And honestly, the UFE is very weak and pathetic if they are leaving this entire war on one boy's shoulder. Even if he doesn't somehow die in battle, there is still no way he can win this entire war on his own, not unless the others do something too. The Martians have taken over about 2/3 of most of world, even with Inaho fight knights and counts one at a time, he's still not really making a dent. Only having taken out 3-4 counts, and not including Slaine and Mazuurek, that's still 32 counts left over, some on Earth and some in space, and countless knights. Also, even if he somehow impossibly defeats them all, Mars will just send reinforcements. Something else needs to happen to end this war, or the Earth will lose eventually, even with Inaho.
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2015-02-08, 02:38 | Link #94 | |
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More of my point was a double standard, to people that hate Slaine everything he does become irrationally creepy or wrong.
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Slaine giving Eddelrittuo peace of mind doesn't lean one way or the other. If you want to use that argument, I can say that Slaine shouldn't make false assurances, when her status is out of his control. Unless, she is put to sleep medically, and he's waiting for the right time to awaken her. Quote:
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And, I DO think the caged bird thing applies to Asseylum as well as Lemrina, but more one than the other. I think Lemrina has had more of a caged life than her sister, but Asseylum has lived most of her life in a gilded cage herself for most of her life, which is what I think Slaine was talking about. Quote:
As for the coma, I think that he sounds and looks way to natural and sincere in both the OP and earlier scenes for him to be trying to keep her that way on purpose. And I find nothing wrong with him comforting a young girl to have hope. You see it as "false assurance" and I see it as "encouragement". However you are right, in that we won't know the whole truth until we can here the whole story, but I for one, just think that she's simply in a coma that she's hasn't woken up from. Quote:
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I'm not sure about the speech, I would have to hear it again, but the guys on Earth didn't seem to find it strange to see her again. It didn't seem like her first, at least not from what I saw. But who knows in the respect, maybe they just made the excuse saying that she was recuperating? As for the fact that they didn't know if she would even wake up, if you remember back in episode 14, Saazbaum considered Asseylum dead. That means that he never thought she could or would wake up again, but he also didn't sound like he was responsible for her being in that state (even though he totally is. ). But to me it sounded as if from what he said and Eddelrittuo's question of her never being able to wake up, that her prognosis isn't good, and that Slaine is really holding out hope for the both of them. We'll have to see as the show goes on and we'll probably get a full explanation when Mazuurek gets there.
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