2022-09-15, 23:02 | Link #21 | |
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The deletion of Lulusia Island from history by that doomsday weapon (probably Uranus) is really interesting. It's very similar to the cover up of the Void Century. I think Oda's putting his own spin on our real world's resets |
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2022-09-16, 10:27 | Link #24 |
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I'm pretty certain marvelB is just kidding.
But anyway, Sabo just bore witness to Imu and consequently an entire island paid the price of his transgression. He'll be fine, but if there's something Imu made crystal clear is that he/she is not playing around. |
2022-09-16, 18:05 | Link #25 |
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A couple of questions that came to mind, does the crew know that Caribou is in the barrel? (If I remember correctly, the cannon is sealed with canedas on the outside, that is, Caribou couldn't do it alone), the other thing, Sabo is 2nd of the Revolutionary Army, shouldn't he know that he is dangerous? make a call without taking precautions? (I was referred to NOT having the white Den Den Mushhi which prevents the call from being traced.)
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2022-09-16, 18:35 | Link #26 | ||
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2022-09-17, 12:12 | Link #27 |
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Zoro’s logic when talking to Luffy about finding Vivi and repeating what Luffy said about Ace in Thriller Bark when the Vivre Card was burning this chapter is really faulty.
Firstly: He’s acting like Vivi and Ace are on the same level, Ace was a logia user and was a Yonko commander on Whitebeard’s crew and knew Haki, Vivi, while she did infiltrate Baroque Works, was a low level agent, and had no Devil Fruit or Haki training, she has gotten more athletic and stronger after the timeskip but isn’t on the same level as Ace was. Secondly: When Luffy said that in Thriller Bark, HE WAS COMPLETELY WRONG, AS HE WAS COMPLETELY UNAWARE THAT ACE WAS CAPTURED, BEING HELD IN IMPEL DOWN AND GOING TO BE EXECUTED BY THE MARINES! Basically wasting precious time by not checking the news papers until hearing about it on Amazon Lily. Which Zoro is hugely forgetting. |
2022-09-17, 18:41 | Link #28 | |
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You raise very good points. Zoro's logic does make no sense, and it's even weirder that the others begrudgingly accepted it. Obviously there's no way to know how things would have played out if Luffy had gone to rescue Ace right away, but actually using that example to justify leaving Vivi to her own devices should have completely backfired on him given how things ended for Ace.
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2022-09-17, 23:24 | Link #29 |
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This Zoro's logic of his regarding Vivi really takes me back though.
Remember? Zoro is the only one who is not salty about leaving Vivi behind after Straw Hats left Alabasta. Zoro telling everyone that they should accept Vivi's decisions. Luffy back then insulted Zoro by calling him a "Four Sword User". |
2022-09-18, 13:47 | Link #31 |
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I understand why they think that the weapon Imu used is URANO (it is the least known ancestral weapon and would explain the level of destructive power shown), but if the World Government and Imu already had that weapon before, why didn't use it before? (Depending on how they used it, perhaps they could have saved themselves a lot of the trouble they face now).
Is it possible that it has certain conditions to be used or limited uses? (If so, Imu is really antisocial enough to spend his uses on Sabo why did he see it?). |
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2022-09-18, 18:06 | Link #33 |
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Does anyone remember God's Valley, mentioned where Rocks met his end at Roger and Garp's hands? One of those Marines asked about God's Valley and the answer from Sengoku was that it doesn't exist on their maps and to not pry too much into it. I think now we have the answer as to what happened to it, especially if the WG (especially Imu) wanted to keep its existence covered up.
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2022-09-19, 08:28 | Link #34 | |
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Vivi is of course weaker than Ace, but she's also smarter and has her own connections and methods to deal with tough situations. The SHs already don't believe the newspaper fully so they're aware they don't even know the whole story yet too |
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2022-09-19, 18:32 | Link #35 | |
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It would have been smarter to simply point out that they have zero leads as to where she could be. Unlike Ace, Sabo never shared his vivre card with Luffy, did he?
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2022-09-19, 21:10 | Link #36 | |
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The Straw Hats also didn't know how to produce one as Sabo is the one that procures Vivre Card for Luffy, meaning Sabo would keep an eye on Luffy and he knows how to make a Vivre Card. |
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2022-09-20, 12:43 | Link #38 | |
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think it was especially interessting, that the elders let the wiretap operation end immediately as soon as Sabo mentioned things, which should keep secret even to the marines. You would expect them to have a special division, which is allowed to hear those things. |
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