Dengeki Bunko Fighting Climax

[Master Assassin]

Originally Posted by Clarami

I get the feeling that this "man among men" assist will possibly get the nerf hammer. I hope it doesn't get to that, but since the assist seems so popular and not to mention godly, you may never know.

Well yeah, there's the issue of calling him in at the right time for that... it's not like he magically pops out of nowhere to stop the attack automatically or something...

[Requiem-x]

Originally Posted by Rias

Interview explaining several decisions in the game:

http://dengekionline.com/elem/000/00...9/index-2.html

"Kamijou Touma is a popular character, but it's hard to make him a playable character, as he is a character who can only bounce back (or reject) attacks. He is a prime example of how you can still include the character in the game, but having him as a support."

Getting a side the choice of word that Tera-D used (跳ね返す usually means reflect/come back/bounce back more than reject), I don't buy the reason that Touma isn't playable. Yes, he might seem boring as he only bunch and cancel attacks, but they seem to forget that he could be made into a character like Captain Commando in MvC2. Using support characters as part of his special attacks. Just look at all the people in the Kamijou Group. Even with the core members like Index, Railgun, Itsuwa, Sisters, Himegami and Orsola, you have enough attacks. That not even including the other characters that would help out, or be reasonable to help out.

Calling for help and using summons that isn't very Touma like, really, and maybe it's just easier to go for characters with a more diverse and balanced move roster or just more potential for crazy stuff, like Shizuo's superstrenght. Kuroyukihime gets away with it because she's summoning herself and doing stuff we know she does (relatively) normally.

[Benigmatica]

So Touma just blocks attacks, but what if he punches them? Will the opponent's super meter will be disabled for a short time?

[ACertainStark]

Originally Posted by Benigmatica

So Touma just blocks attacks, but what if he punches them? Will the opponent's super meter will be disabled for a short time?

1 hit KO + Charm.

[Requiem-x]

Originally Posted by ACertainStark

1 hit KO + Charm.

Except the males, they get their own charm points increased tenfold.

[TheSix]

Originally Posted by larethian

Your point is really moot in this thread. This game is obviously targeted towards Dengeki fanbase to milk us dry......
It's not about what is deserving or what makes better games, it's about where the money is.

It may be targeted to us, but that doesn't mean others can't complain about it :v .

Although honestly I don't really see how Dengeki Characters wouldn't work well in fighting games. Lots of diverse abilities that are ripe to be made into movesets, a variety within the tone and overall styles of the series, ect.

Originally Posted by Calamari

This makes the famous Daigo parry look like mere child's play. "Shrugs shoulders" Only Touma could pull off something like this.

I'm guessing you're Kirito on Dustloop (same location, same comment on the video) ?

[Westlo]

Does Touma just block stuff? I mean you're not going to be spamming a super from a full screen away unless you're going for chip dmg. Most people will combo into their supers...

Originally Posted by Rias

Getting a side the choice of word that Tera-D used (跳ね返す usually means reflect/come back/bounce back more than reject), I don't buy the reason that Touma isn't playable. Yes, he might seem boring as he only bunch and cancel attacks, but they seem to forget that he could be made into a character like Captain Commando in MvC2. Using support characters as part of his special attacks. Just look at all the people in the Kamijou Group. Even with the core members like Index, Railgun, Itsuwa, Sisters, Himegami and Orsola, you have enough attacks. That not even including the other characters that would help out, or be reasonable to help out.

Obviously they felt going with Mikasa and Accelerator (it will happen, you know it) as main characters and Touma as an assist was the better option instead of turning Touma into Captain Commando.

Originally Posted by Requiem-x

One of Kirino's supers involves having a crane machine falling on the opponent and then have her pick them up.

Kirino da gawd.

EDIT - Trailer in 60FPS (lol youtube)

NicoNico

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/1381815239

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[larethian]

Originally Posted by TheSix

It may be targeted to us, but that doesn't mean others can't complain about it :v .

Although honestly I don't really see how Dengeki Characters wouldn't work well in fighting games. Lots of diverse abilities that are ripe to be made into movesets, a variety within the tone and overall styles of the series, ect.



I'm guessing you're Kirito on Dustloop (same location, same comment on the video) ?

Did I say he can't complain? I was saying his point was moot, i.e. of little or no practical value or meaning, since we are talking about a game that Dengeki Bunko has a hand and money in it right here and the thread is not about Sega's new game but about the game itself and he's saying 'replace Dengeki with something that actually deserves an arcade fighting game for it'?? Complain away anyway but pointless here imo (especially w.r.t. the point on 'replacing Dengeki').

[Sumeragi]

Looks like Kamijou Miko.

[Frailty]

Originally Posted by Sumeragi

Looks like Kamijou Miko.

this is Misaka with an alternate palette, right?
or are you referring to the palette's reference?

[Sumeragi]

Originally Posted by Frailty

this is Misaka with an alternate palette, right?
or are you referring to the palette's reference?

Referring to the fact that the alternate Mikoto color looks like she's a Kamikoto Daughter. There was the suggestion that a daughter be named Miko.

[Frontier]

She looks surprisingly like Mii Konori .

[Vsin]

Originally Posted by Clarami

The assist looks pretty situational by the looks of it. If a projectile attack were to hit him it would just block it, but if people were to strike him during the active phase of the assist they'd be blown back, like a counter move. The white flash is just used as a means to show where the effect of the move is, and how successful it is if the assist counters the move in question.

For example: White flash = The source and AoE of the assist and how it can be "set off" by certain conditions.

It doesn't seem *that* situational to me. It just seems like a great big FU to any attempts at aggression or rushdown.

Touma might not be brokenly OP, but he doesn't seem fun to play with or against...

[Requiem-x]

Originally Posted by Vsin

Touma might not be brokenly OP, but he doesn't seem fun to play with or against...

I'd gladly play with him just to see how many supers he can block.

Anyway, it seems a few more details on the process of selecting characters have been revealed via interview with the director and the producer of the game:

Spoiler for Reasons of Space:

“Firstly, it’s got to be ‘the most popular characters’,”

“Objectively speaking, the goal is to get protagonists and heroines. However, it may not look that way, as we’ve also selected some of the most popular characters of their respective works.”

Funny that Touma made it in but from SAO's side we got Leafa. Not that I'm complaining. At all.

Speaking of Touma...

“In addition, we’ve also considered using characters who would transition well into fighting games,” continues Terada. “For example, look at the ‘A Certain’ series, where we have a playable character of Misaka instead of Touma [Kamijou, from A Certain Magical Index]. Touma has the ability to negate an opponent’s abilities, which would make him into a character who’d require some sort of habit. For this reason, we’ve made him into a support character.”

Your thoughts? To me, I guess it makes sense. As mentioned before, it's a matter of versatility.

“When I first thought of the roster on my own, I really wanted to have characters from various works, and I decided to with one character per-title, but ended up having one title with two [characters]..."

I'm assuming this refers to playable characters. Also, please, please, don't be Kirito. I want SnH Yuuji

Anyway, time for a funny story

“We really wanted to include Durarara!!, but we couldn’t decide which character,” says Nonaka. “Then Terada and I went to meet the staff members of Dengeki Bunko, where we saw a Shizuo figure in the office, and he looked way too cool [laughs].”

“There were many lying around, but that one in particular was really cool and stood out,” says Terada. “It was a figure of him swinging around a traffic sign, and we thought it’d be cool to have something wild like that [laughs]. And during the meeting right after, ‘Shall we make it Shizuo?’ was our proposition.”

Yup, Shizuo is just THAT cool

Nonaka: “At the moment, we have a perfect 1:1 ratio of playable and support characters, but in the end, support characters might have… er, huh, there really is a gap in the character selection screen. [laughs]”

I want Mokkan doing a scoop shot uppercut!

[majestix1988]

Spoiler for Here comes the new Characters:

O_o

[EmagEvil]

Originally Posted by majestix1988

Spoiler for Here comes the new Characters:

O_o

Wow seriously?! And the

Spoiler:

Is that Bebobe Phantom ont he second one?

... Those 3 might be support?

[Requiem-x]

Originally Posted by EmagEvil

... Those 3 might be support?

All three are support, just look at the screens.

Nevertheless

Spoiler for Spoiler:

Horo and Boogiepop? This is looking more and more like Cross of Venus. Misao support next, please! I wouldn't mind having Nogizaka Haruka either, since she can actually kick butt.

I am surprised Maou only got to be a support character, though. I guess fame isn't everything.

[kona~chan]

Originally Posted by majestix1988

Spoiler for Here comes the new Characters:

O_o

ugh now i really wish for characters from c3, horizon and denpa onna

[kuroishinigami]

Holo is support chara only and here I thought I found my main to use on the game

[Requiem-x]

Originally Posted by kuroishinigami

Holo is support chara only and here I thought I found my main to use on the game

She'd have to transform in order to fight, and with that size it would be kinda one-sided, don't you think?

On a different note, boogiepop looks way less dark in the novel illustrations.