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2011-02-09, 19:13 | Link #283 |
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Well, its not like its a waste of money. Take the MtG personalities for example.
tl;dr Timmy - power gamer, big and flashy Spike - I will crush you Johnny - i will bedazzle, annoy and bewilder you (combos)
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2011-02-09, 19:18 | Link #284 |
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There's a difference between taking things seriously and trying to seriously harm someone in front of a crowd. It would make more sense if Vivio was in the military, but she's not. Or is this going to turn out like the Karate Kid, with every trainer other than Nove encouraging their pupils toward murder? If anything it's not a case of Vivio not taking it seriously enough, but Shante taking it far too seriously.
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2011-02-09, 19:41 | Link #285 | |
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Finally readed Ch. 19, i don't find anything wrong with Shante's intentions, she was trying to giving advice to Vivio about her natural weaknesses, after all, Shante did recognize Vivio's strenght but find her magic type and personality unsuited for close combat, her execution and attitude towards the issue is what bothers me and the twins xDU. She's a little bit pretentious about "teaching" Vivio an important lesson. As Deed let her know, Vivio is a smart girl perfectly aware of said weaknesses(after all she was beaten by Einhart ...twice) and despite said weaknesses she wants to achieve prowess with the Strike Arts because she like it(important lesson here: you don't need to necessary follow a path just because you're better suited for it).
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I'm pretty sure that Vivion won't end being champ this time but at least i hope she manage to beat a tough opponent and surprises everyone(as things are going on Miura seems to fit the criteria, all this time people was lampshading how good she is and is about to face Vivio, so yeah). ...it would be really cool to see Nove scarring the hell out of an evil sensei in a cool "Mr. Miyagi" fashion xD.
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2011-02-09, 19:56 | Link #286 | |
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That image spot was likely exaggerated, but the point was that Vivio recognised that "It'll be really bad if I get hit by that attack!" Shante stopped because Vivio backed off, but what if such a situation occurs in an actual match? What if her opponent doesn't hold back? There's still that discrepency, though. Teana's skills lies in her ranged abilities, but when she attempted a melee attack, Nanoha shot her out of the sky. Vivio is more suited for scollarly work, but focuses on combat instead, and everyone is cool with it. Though in Teana's case it was more she tried to jump ahead when she wasn't ready. Vivio's been an official librarian for a few years so you could argue she's already mastered her intellectual skills.
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2011-02-09, 20:05 | Link #287 | |
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That's not the case with Vivio, she's just training as a sport having a very good coach on Nove who regulates not only her execises but also other things like alimentation, rest and quality tim for other activities, with that Nanoha dosen't have much to worry because Vivio is a smart and cheerfull kid who is still developing her skill and strenght while undergoing integral formation. Like it was mentioned, Vivio is traning for a sports martial arts tournament, not to risk her life on the battlefield.
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2011-02-09, 20:11 | Link #288 |
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You also keep forgetting that Teana was endangering her own life and the lives of others. So not, like, a hobby. And I dunno how much help teaching her that is supposed to be, anyway - Vivio's not really a tanker, so it's not like she's just gonna stand there and get hit.
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2011-02-09, 20:12 | Link #289 |
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Even then, though, don't underestimate the competative spirit. How many times have 'friendly' tournaments in DBZ turned out to be anything but?
Besides, even if what Shante wanted to show her doesn't apply to the tournament itself, it's still a valuable life lesson.
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2011-02-09, 22:03 | Link #292 |
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One particular DBZ incident comes to mind: When Videl fought that majin guy and she totally got her shit wrecked despite all her special training with Gohan. Imagine if that happened to Vivio. I bet it'd cause Einhart to get royally pissed off
Probably won't happen, but I'm just....... saiyan *shot*
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2011-02-09, 22:11 | Link #295 | |
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But i really doubt Vivio will be pitted on that kind of situation having more expendable strong alies like Rio and Corona, Videl was a support character after all xDU. By the way, apparently FORCE is the blood source and thats makes this even more unlikely. Besides, if you're curious the big guy who delivers the beating is named Spopovich.
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2011-02-09, 22:24 | Link #296 |
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Right, that was his name. DBZ was aaaaaaaaages ago.
Anyways, the point is going into a tournament thinking it'll be a friendly thing only to be taken off guard by an opponent who doesn't share the sentiment. Like... say Vivio offers her hand to her opponent before the match, but the opponent uses the opportunity to boot her in the head.
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2011-02-09, 22:29 | Link #297 |
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Just to make a point, enjoy martial arts doesen't mean you're going to get easy on your opponent's or let them intimidate/surprise you. This reminds me of "Captain Tsubasa" where Tsubasa(Oliver) who happily enjoys soccer confronts Kojiro(Steve) who thinks soccer is a battle and those who play it as a game are weak, Tsubasa quickly proves him wrong.
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2011-02-09, 22:41 | Link #298 |
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I remember in Punch-Out Wii, that one japanese boxer will bow to you when the match begins, and you can punch him then. Then if you try it again when you do the rematches, he dodges and uppercuts you. Given that the Nanoha series prescribes to Good Is Not Dumb most of the time, it wouldn't surprise me to see Vivio do something like that.
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Not to say there won´t be "I must win by any means necesary" kind of opponents, just making that above point clear.
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