AnimeSuki Forums

Achiuakuna · 2013-07-03, 11:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kimidori

Equipment sale? damn, look like I will have to grind my ass off again to prepare equipment for T-62A and FV4202.

Don't they use medium caliber equipments?

I'm mainly grinding for heavy tank equipments, which are unreasonably priced.

Kimidori · 2013-07-03, 12:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Achiuakuna

Don't they use medium caliber equipments?

I'm mainly grinding for heavy tank equipments, which are unreasonably priced.

yeah, they both medium tank with 100mm and 105mm gun.

I didn't know that tank class have different price for equipments. :O

Gravitas Free Zone · 2013-07-03, 12:20

I have about 2.75 million in equipment purchases planned. Fortunately, since I've been making considerable profit lately, that is not a problem...

Tak · 2013-07-03, 12:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Achiuakuna

I can't believe I went through the T-34 twice. A Russian one and a Chinese one. Mediocrity, so much mediocrity.

I TOLD YOU!

- Tak

Strigon 13 · 2013-07-03, 12:39

I had to suffer the T-34 to get the SU-85, but it worth the trouble very mucho. Althought... 57mm with 1.85 seconds reload and full premium ammo is so awesome. Specially when shreding anything below tier 6 in seconds.

Damn, just when I don't have gold left there's 100% bonus to tier 5/6.

I'm planning to farm to get the KV-4 again, as I said before to get the IS-4

Kimidori · 2013-07-03, 12:42

speaking about mediocrity...

the FV4202, unlike what Touma said, is not mediocre, it have excellent accuracy, good gun depression and aim time, it a terrain abuser and a specialist sniper, same accuracy as E-50M, but smaller profile, better gun depression, camo and rate of fire make it the best t10 med sniper in the game, the down side of FV4202 is its speed limit of 40kmh and poor armor.

that prolly why Garbad rated it above E-50M and 121 in his t10 med review.

so Touma, this tank is not mediocre at all, it a specialist.

Achiuakuna · 2013-07-03, 13:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kimidori

yeah, they both medium tank with 100mm and 105mm gun.

I didn't know that tank class have different price for equipments. :O

Indeed they do. To be honest I think it's a bit too simplified. Mediums get cheaper equipment regardless of actual tank size or gun caliber. For example T-44 is capable of mounting an 122mm gun, and yet it requires no large caliber rammer. Neither does SU-100, even though KV-1S, at the SAME tier with the SAME caliber gun, requires large caliber rammer and class 3 vent. I always thought it was odd that my FCM 50t uses a large caliber rammer for its 90mm, even though T20 and Indien Pz use medium caliber rammer for their 90mm guns.

Also the price difference is a bit steep. For vent, medium use those that cost 150k, and heavy use those that cost 600k. Medium rammers are 200k and heavy ones are 500k.

T-34 is ok. It just doesn't have enough lasting power to make the high ROF kick in. That's why I prefer hard hitting, slow reloading guns on thin-armor vehicles so that I can hit and run.

Blaat · 2013-07-03, 13:47

Images

rub your eyes

Sorry; dynamic content not loaded. Reload?

Would have done more damage too if weren't for the low amount of ammo.

Myssa Rei · 2013-07-03, 18:15

Yep, last night was pretty much impossible to get any decent games. Sunk 11 games now as a result. Ugh. Knew I should have logged out early.

Kamijou_Touma · 2013-07-03, 19:16

The thing about rammers is class type, heavies always use class 3 and mediums use class 2 and lights use class 1.

Psht you will never ever spend the amout of loot i spend for credits. while you guys make minor transaction i'm doing the major transactions.

And kimi the way ppl rate tanks is based off experience in the tree. It is different per player. such as my play style does not fit in with any other player on AS or MUP.

Well get ready for another weekend of bullshit cuz it will be 5x xp starting tomorrow. But i think most of us would rather waste errr... i mean spend time with the family and watch the fire at work. Happy Independence Day to all our US players and i will see you guys whine later in game or not since i got CoH OF and CoH2.

Drake · 2013-07-03, 19:26

I didn't think the T-34 was that bad and I had much more fun with it than I did with the likes of the M4 and if you buddied up with another fast firing tank you could shred almost anything.

Also moved up to the 100mm in the SU-100 and its pretty decent so the short grind to the 122mm shouldn't be too bad. I'll probably do both the SU-152 and SU-101 lines once I elite the SU-100 as I can't seem to choose between them.

In other news MM has been fully stuffing me over the past few days and I'm usually stuck at the bottom of the tier table in most matches which is made worse by the curtain munching team mates I usually get...

Kamijou_Touma · 2013-07-03, 19:33

True you need a similar partner when runnin the t-34 series if ur using the 57 but i don't too many player that have a similar setup. plus if ur platooned with 34s u need to assist fire and kill. otherwise it doesn't work to well. which is why i rarely run T-34 series tanks.

Mow Yun · 2013-07-03, 20:11

Another reason why FV4202 is rated low is because it is useless in clan wars. HESH is a terrible shell type.

Gravitas Free Zone · 2013-07-03, 20:16

Being treated as "larger HE" will do that... though HESH was a fairly common British ammunition type for quite a while, until armor got better.

Mow Yun · 2013-07-03, 20:21

Historically I believe tanks carried mostly HE because it was very useful in an anti-infantry role. Tanks rarely fought other tanks except in rare cases. So the extra HE was better in most situations.

Myssa Rei · 2013-07-03, 20:32

Last night was bad. Seriously bad. So bad that being put in a team with a platoon of Relic or Crabs STILL nets less than a 50% score.

Gravitas Free Zone · 2013-07-03, 20:38

HESH did massive spalling damage to structures and regular armor; spaced armor and spall liners neutralized it quite a bit.

Meanwhile...

The first time around with the KV-1S, I wanted to push through it to the IS (which turned out to be hugely disappointing), and didn't bother continuing with any research on the KV-13 which would have elited the 1S. (Meanwhile, I was using the T-34-85 to research the T-43 and contemplated researching the KV-13 that way... and then the 34-85 turned out to be hugely disappointing.)

So this time around, I'm taking care of that problem, with the added benefit that my crews are a lot better, and I think I've learned some things in the meantime. So the 1S will be elited shortly... just in case the T-50-2's replacement really does turn out to be available as research from the KV-1S.

That doesn't mean that grinding is not still... grinding.

Images

Sorry; dynamic content not loaded. Reload?

Kamijou_Touma · 2013-07-03, 20:50

i'm tryin to figure out my user and password for CoH OF, but i don't remember it, idk know where i kept it either.

Pen3 · 2013-07-03, 21:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kamijou_Touma

i'm tryin to figure out my user and password for CoH OF, but i don't remember it, idk know where i kept it either.

I think you're asking the wrong forum.

Kamijou_Touma · 2013-07-03, 21:39

ah nvm, i think i couldn't log in anymore cuz they moved the servers to steam.

2013-07-03, 12:42	Link #7946
Kimidori The Opened Ultimate Gate Join Date: Dec 2011 Age: 29	speaking about mediocrity... the FV4202, unlike what Touma said, is not mediocre, it have excellent accuracy, good gun depression and aim time, it a terrain abuser and a specialist sniper, same accuracy as E-50M, but smaller profile, better gun depression, camo and rate of fire make it the best t10 med sniper in the game, the down side of FV4202 is its speed limit of 40kmh and poor armor. that prolly why Garbad rated it above E-50M and 121 in his t10 med review. so Touma, this tank is not mediocre at all, it a specialist. __________________

2013-07-03, 13:47	Link #7948
Blaat Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004	Images rub your eyes Sorry; dynamic content not loaded. Reload? Would have done more damage too if weren't for the low amount of ammo. __________________ MyAnimeList

2013-07-03, 18:15	Link #7949
Myssa Rei Moderate Haruhiist Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Metro Manila, Philippines Age: 42	Yep, last night was pretty much impossible to get any decent games. Sunk 11 games now as a result. Ugh. Knew I should have logged out early. __________________

2013-07-03, 19:16	Link #7950
Kamijou_Touma Imagine Breaker Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: In A Certain Magical Place.	The thing about rammers is class type, heavies always use class 3 and mediums use class 2 and lights use class 1. Psht you will never ever spend the amout of loot i spend for credits. while you guys make minor transaction i'm doing the major transactions. And kimi the way ppl rate tanks is based off experience in the tree. It is different per player. such as my play style does not fit in with any other player on AS or MUP. Well get ready for another weekend of bullshit cuz it will be 5x xp starting tomorrow. But i think most of us would rather waste errr... i mean spend time with the family and watch the fire at work. Happy Independence Day to all our US players and i will see you guys whine later in game or not since i got CoH OF and CoH2. __________________ NANO!!! DESU!!!

2013-07-03, 19:26	Link #7951
Drake dn ʎɐʍ sıɥʇ Graphic Designer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Northern Ireland	I didn't think the T-34 was that bad and I had much more fun with it than I did with the likes of the M4 and if you buddied up with another fast firing tank you could shred almost anything. Also moved up to the 100mm in the SU-100 and its pretty decent so the short grind to the 122mm shouldn't be too bad. I'll probably do both the SU-152 and SU-101 lines once I elite the SU-100 as I can't seem to choose between them. In other news MM has been fully stuffing me over the past few days and I'm usually stuck at the bottom of the tier table in most matches which is made worse by the curtain munching team mates I usually get... __________________

2013-07-03, 12:20	Link #7943
Gravitas Free Zone Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2012	I have about 2.75 million in equipment purchases planned. Fortunately, since I've been making considerable profit lately, that is not a problem...

2013-07-03, 12:39	Link #7945
Strigon 13 Electrosphere Join Date: Mar 2011	I had to suffer the T-34 to get the SU-85, but it worth the trouble very mucho. Althought... 57mm with 1.85 seconds reload and full premium ammo is so awesome. Specially when shreding anything below tier 6 in seconds. Damn, just when I don't have gold left there's 100% bonus to tier 5/6. I'm planning to farm to get the KV-4 again, as I said before to get the IS-4

2013-07-03, 19:33	Link #7952
Kamijou_Touma Imagine Breaker Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: In A Certain Magical Place.	True you need a similar partner when runnin the t-34 series if ur using the 57 but i don't too many player that have a similar setup. plus if ur platooned with 34s u need to assist fire and kill. otherwise it doesn't work to well. which is why i rarely run T-34 series tanks. __________________ NANO!!! DESU!!!

2013-07-03, 20:11	Link #7953
Mow Yun Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Age: 34	Another reason why FV4202 is rated low is because it is useless in clan wars. HESH is a terrible shell type.

2013-07-03, 20:16	Link #7954
Gravitas Free Zone Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2012	Being treated as "larger HE" will do that... though HESH was a fairly common British ammunition type for quite a while, until armor got better.

2013-07-03, 20:21	Link #7955
Mow Yun Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Age: 34	Historically I believe tanks carried mostly HE because it was very useful in an anti-infantry role. Tanks rarely fought other tanks except in rare cases. So the extra HE was better in most situations.

2013-07-03, 20:32	Link #7956
Myssa Rei Moderate Haruhiist Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Metro Manila, Philippines Age: 42	Last night was bad. Seriously bad. So bad that being put in a team with a platoon of Relic or Crabs STILL nets less than a 50% score. __________________

2013-07-03, 20:38	Link #7957
Gravitas Free Zone Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2012	HESH did massive spalling damage to structures and regular armor; spaced armor and spall liners neutralized it quite a bit. Meanwhile... The first time around with the KV-1S, I wanted to push through it to the IS (which turned out to be hugely disappointing), and didn't bother continuing with any research on the KV-13 which would have elited the 1S. (Meanwhile, I was using the T-34-85 to research the T-43 and contemplated researching the KV-13 that way... and then the 34-85 turned out to be hugely disappointing.) So this time around, I'm taking care of that problem, with the added benefit that my crews are a lot better, and I think I've learned some things in the meantime. So the 1S will be elited shortly... just in case the T-50-2's replacement really does turn out to be available as research from the KV-1S. That doesn't mean that grinding is not still... grinding. Images Sorry; dynamic content not loaded. Reload?

2013-07-03, 20:50	Link #7958
Kamijou_Touma Imagine Breaker Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: In A Certain Magical Place.	i'm tryin to figure out my user and password for CoH OF, but i don't remember it, idk know where i kept it either. __________________ NANO!!! DESU!!!

2013-07-03, 21:39	Link #7960
Kamijou_Touma Imagine Breaker Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: In A Certain Magical Place.	ah nvm, i think i couldn't log in anymore cuz they moved the servers to steam. __________________ NANO!!! DESU!!!