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lousy · 2007-05-13, 03:24

sorry. was trying to keep everything i wrote to at most vol 11..anyway vol 12 english just came out

Kinematics · 2007-05-13, 13:49

I should clarify: "what's released in English" refers to the official release by Viz, not to English translations of what's only been officially released in Japanese. Please re-read the first post of the thread.

Tempest35 · 2007-05-14, 10:34

Yeah, Viz's CLAYMORE is only at vol 7. Right when she's still fighting Ophelia I belive. So nothing past that.

G. Zeus · 2007-05-21, 16:44

Hey, has anybody else realized that the claymores resemble Morning Musume to a certain extent? Insanely large all-girl group, frequent sub-group shuffling, very fast turnover rate with periodical graduations, different talents and personalities...

There's also the set of inflexible rules which seem to have no exceptions:
Teresa killed a few human bandits and she got fired.
Kago Ai was caught smoking and she got fired.

Just give 'em a few months, I'll expect a video of Hare Hare Yukai featuring Clare, Miria, Deneve, and Helen.

Ooki na yume&yume SUKI deshou?

Seska · 2007-05-23, 14:38

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Originally Posted by Tempest35

Yeah, Viz's CLAYMORE is only at vol 7. Right when she's still fighting Ophelia I believe. So nothing past that.

Jip, as far as i know (afaik) this threat here, is for the Official English Manga. Published by Viz's.

What you read after Vol 7 are "fan made" translations, and should not posted here in this thread...

Claymore_Obsessed · 2007-05-24, 15:21

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Originally Posted by G. Zeus

Just give 'em a few months, I'll expect a video of Hare Hare Yukai featuring Clare, Miria, Deneve, and Helen.

Ooki na yume&yume SUKI deshou?

That would be fun

Maybe we'll get Motteke! Sailor Fuku too? ^^

HinaThePrince · 2007-05-24, 15:40

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Originally Posted by Claymore_Obsessed

That would be fun

Maybe we'll get Motteke! Sailor Fuku too? ^^

That's exactly what I've been thinking for the last month or so. D:

JaeEleutheria · 2007-05-25, 07:59

I just picked up Vol. 8 of Viz's translation from Barnes and Noble yesterday. The official release date is June 5 though.

NoSanninWa · 2007-05-26, 01:46

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Originally Posted by JaeEleutheria

I just picked up Vol. 8 of Viz's translation from Barnes and Noble yesterday. The official release date is June 5 though.

You are one lucky guy. I'd like to remind you that until June 5th you can't post a word about it in this thread.

JaeEleutheria · 2007-05-26, 15:03

I wasn't going to. I just was saying that some stores release them early and that you can keep your eyes open for it.

Negativedark · 2007-05-26, 17:44

Hopefully my local Walden will have it on or by the release date. If not I can get it ordered from there, and have it in a week or less.

Kinematics · 2007-06-05, 15:29

Got volume 8 in the mail today. Perfect timing!

Not much in the way of answers for my earlier speculation, but did bring up some other interesting tidbits.

Spoiler for Ophelia:

Despite everything, I'm sorry to see Ophelia go. She's kind of grown on me; after Clare and Teresa, she's jockying with Ilena and Helen for third favorite

When she awakened, she still seemed to be very strongly 'human' in her thought process (twisted as that was). The hunger for guts was more like a "Hmm. I haven't eaten all day and I'm really in the mood for Mexican tonight." than an "Arrr! I'm an inhuman monster and you humans are nothing more than snacks now!" reaction. It was just a craving, not an overwhelming desire, to the point that she didn't even realize she had awakened.

More, though, in the fight with Clare, she was able to isolate her "human" parts away from the rest of her body. In doing so, it opened her up to suppressed memories and emotions that she had previously forgotten. Everything about her other than the unnatural cravings remained almost the same between her Claymore state and her Awakened state. Her attitude, her taunting and testing of Clare, her (rather vicious) little games. Even after changing to another species altogether, she still retained what was human about herself.

And she still wants to play a game.

Now the question is, did Clare take the arm that went flying (or the arm that was left, since Ophelia was holding on with her left arm) when she got to the end of Ophelia and attach it to herself? Rather grisly thing to do, but at the same time.. was Ophelia less worthy of being remembered than Ilena? For everything Ophelia did, she also, in just a short time, helped Clare really push herself, strain to her limits, focus on her control, and in the end had to prove that she was 'worthy' of fighting Priscilla in Ophelia's stead.

Still, probably not a good idea to take on the flesh of an Awakened, even if it is the human part of it. If she did, though, it'd be rather disturbing to think that she's keeping the memories of all her past friends (or maybe family would be a better term) (Teresa, Ilena, Ophelia; no Elena, though

) very close to her.

Spoiler for The Organization:

Spoiler for Riful & Friends:

Spoiler for Priscilla:

__________________
Let's Play a Game!

HinaThePrince · 2007-06-05, 15:34

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Originally Posted by Kinematics

More tidbits about Priscilla; most especially that she never harmed any of the young girls (notably including Ophelia) in any village she ravaged.

Where did you get THAT from? Riful said there was only one girl Prissyface didn't hurt.

BTW, love the "I'm really in the mood for Mexican" line. :P

cors8 · 2007-06-05, 15:44

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Originally Posted by Kinematics

Spoiler for Ophelia:

Spoiler for Ophelia's gift :

It's rather sad how they all have horrible pasts though. I wonder what Helen, Deneve, Galatea and Miria's pasts are like.

HinaThePrince · 2007-06-05, 15:48

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Originally Posted by cors8

It's rather sad how they all have horrible pasts though. I wonder what Helen, Deneve, Galatea and Miria's pasts are like.

Yeah, I'm especially dying to know what happened to Helen as a child to make her develop a personality like that. I think she's one of those "Really shitty stuff happened to me so I'm going to act happy and lively to make up for it!" people. She could easily fit in the cast of One Piece, really. :P

Kinematics · 2007-06-05, 15:54

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Where did you get THAT from? Riful said there was only one girl Prissyface didn't hurt.

Um.. Ok, I'm going to have to go home and read it again, but I'm pretty certain that in the last handful of pages in the book Riful specifically stated that not a single young girl was hurt by Priscilla, while she killed everyone else in town, and that it was almost like she couldn't even see them.

Oh, and a bit that I forgot about earlier: When Ophelia dies and her hair comes loose, she looks remarkably like Teresa.

cors8: I agree that that's most likely. On the surface it certainly appears that way. Still, now that the author opened the possibility of limb transference, there's always going to be that little niggling doubt in the back of my head, since it just jumped from Ophelia dying to 3 months later in another town.

cors8 · 2007-06-05, 16:26

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Originally Posted by Kinematics

cors8: I agree that that's most likely. On the surface it certainly appears that way. Still, now that the author opened the possibility of limb transference, there's always going to be that little niggling doubt in the back of my head, since it just jumped from Ophelia dying to 3 months later in another town.

Well consider this. The arm Clare cuts off is Ophelia's right arm. Since Clare already has Ilena's right arm, then it's pointless to attach Ophelia's. Also, we haven't been shown any special ability of Ophelia's that would require Clare to take her arm, unlike with Ilena.

After all, as shown in the previous volumes, Quicksword is more powerful than any of Ophelia's abilities.

Anh_Minh · 2007-06-05, 16:35

edit: nvm.

Kinematics · 2007-06-05, 20:10

Ok, here it is. Page 187:

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They say that in the towns she attacked, she completely destroyed everything.

Yet she never laid a hand on the young girls.

She's a strange one. Even though she tears out the guts of everyone else in the village...

She doesn't make a single wound on the young girls.

It's almost like...

She doesn't even notice the young girls at all.

Fenrir_valindri · 2007-06-07, 14:30

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Originally Posted by Kinematics

Ok, here it is. Page 187:

It is possible that Viz mistranlated some of those lines, but who knows maybe the scanlators who translated it before hand got it wrong. :P

2007-05-21, 16:44	Link #44
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2007-05-26, 17:44	Link #51
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2007-06-05, 15:29	Link #52
Kinematics Let's play a game! Join Date: Sep 2006	Got volume 8 in the mail today. Perfect timing! Not much in the way of answers for my earlier speculation, but did bring up some other interesting tidbits. Spoiler for Ophelia: Despite everything, I'm sorry to see Ophelia go. She's kind of grown on me; after Clare and Teresa, she's jockying with Ilena and Helen for third favorite When she awakened, she still seemed to be very strongly 'human' in her thought process (twisted as that was). The hunger for guts was more like a "Hmm. I haven't eaten all day and I'm really in the mood for Mexican tonight." than an "Arrr! I'm an inhuman monster and you humans are nothing more than snacks now!" reaction. It was just a craving, not an overwhelming desire, to the point that she didn't even realize she had awakened. More, though, in the fight with Clare, she was able to isolate her "human" parts away from the rest of her body. In doing so, it opened her up to suppressed memories and emotions that she had previously forgotten. Everything about her other than the unnatural cravings remained almost the same between her Claymore state and her Awakened state. Her attitude, her taunting and testing of Clare, her (rather vicious) little games. Even after changing to another species altogether, she still retained what was human about herself. And she still wants to play a game. Now the question is, did Clare take the arm that went flying (or the arm that was left, since Ophelia was holding on with her left arm) when she got to the end of Ophelia and attach it to herself? Rather grisly thing to do, but at the same time.. was Ophelia less worthy of being remembered than Ilena? For everything Ophelia did, she also, in just a short time, helped Clare really push herself, strain to her limits, focus on her control, and in the end had to prove that she was 'worthy' of fighting Priscilla in Ophelia's stead. Still, probably not a good idea to take on the flesh of an Awakened, even if it is the human part of it. If she did, though, it'd be rather disturbing to think that she's keeping the memories of all her past friends (or maybe family would be a better term) (Teresa, Ilena, Ophelia; no Elena, though ) very close to her. Spoiler for The Organization: Next, we get to see the old codgers who run the place, er, Organization. It was a bit hard to follow the conversations, but I get the sneaking suspicion that Rubel would not be entirely surprised to find out that Clare had beaten Ophelia. He definitely seems the type that knows way too much about what's going on. Plus he doesn't have the bad fashion taste that the rest of the agents have. None of them have cool round sunglasses or a proper hat! Also, the top dog, president, whatever.. His hands and the back of his head look verrrry much like a Claymore that had their body partly transformed. It could just be old age, but it didn't look wrinkly (like the high priest in the church), but veined. Spoiler for Riful & Friends: And Riful. Woot. What can you say? That's one creepy little girl. Might be a bit of plot contrivance to let that one Claymore survive to call for help, but I suspect they 'let' her escape so that more Claymores would show up to be experimented on. If she was the weakest of the group, there was every reason to suspect that she wouldn't be of any use on awakening. Interesting bit of info on Galatea's powers. Very curious, and potentially very useful for the partially-awakened squad. Obviously she's no particular threat to Riful since Riful understands her powers and knows exactly how to counter them. Also obvious is that there's no way Clare and Galatea would win if they tried to fight their way out right now. But Clare's 'mission'.... Riful's rather put out by the northern awakened one's activities. Her own attempt to create an army of awakened is obviously not going too well. Part of the reason she needs them to awaken, though, is so that they'll join her side. Now she has someone in front of her who is actively antagonistic towards her enemy, and (while she doesn't know it yet, it could easily be brought to light) is not currently under the purview of the Organization. Speculation of probable direction of plot: In exchange for letting them go (and Galatea will definitely want to be let go; she's a prime candidate for Riful's testing), Galatea acts as escort for Clare in her attempt to eliminate Priscilla. That would be a major coup in favor of Riful in case of a war. They probably get to take the injured number 9 with them for whatever reason (she's not exactly prime hostage material, though Riful may want to continue her experiments on her). However, what would Riful gain in exchange as security that they'd make good on their promise? Clare (I think it was Clare) has said in the past that Claymores don't lie because they have no reason to ever do so. Might they swear their allegiance to Riful? Spoiler for Priscilla: More tidbits about Priscilla; most especially that she never harmed any of the young girls (notably including Ophelia) in any village she ravaged. That lends itself to supporting why she walked past Clare, without truly explaining anything. Why? Is it an artifact of her own childhood that blinds her, some remnant of her former ideals, or is it something about Clare's presense during her awakening? __________________ Let's Play a Game!

2007-05-13, 03:24	Link #41
lousy Member Join Date: May 2007	sorry. was trying to keep everything i wrote to at most vol 11..anyway vol 12 english just came out

2007-05-13, 13:49	Link #42
Kinematics Let's play a game! Join Date: Sep 2006	I should clarify: "what's released in English" refers to the official release by Viz, not to English translations of what's only been officially released in Japanese. Please re-read the first post of the thread.

2007-05-14, 10:34	Link #43
Tempest35 Awe of She Author Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Orlando	Yeah, Viz's CLAYMORE is only at vol 7. Right when she's still fighting Ophelia I belive. So nothing past that.

2007-05-25, 07:59	Link #48
JaeEleutheria Hoshi Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Manassas, VA Age: 41	I just picked up Vol. 8 of Viz's translation from Barnes and Noble yesterday. The official release date is June 5 though.

2007-05-26, 15:03	Link #50
JaeEleutheria Hoshi Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Manassas, VA Age: 41	I wasn't going to. I just was saying that some stores release them early and that you can keep your eyes open for it.

2007-06-05, 16:35	Link #58
Anh_Minh I disagree with you all. Join Date: Dec 2005	edit: nvm.