2010-09-13, 01:29 | Link #1501 | ||||
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But Clannad was never about "hot and heavy" romance. Like synaesthetic rightly points out, Clannad is a dramedy. Romance is a secondary feature; it's not the driving feature of Clannad. A hot and heavy makeout scene (like the one you referred to in that YouTube video) might clash with the typical mood and tone of a dramedy. At the very least, I see nothing lost by not having it. Quote:
It happens in movies so much that it's really not all that special any more. Indeed, one could argue that Clannad very effectively conveying romance without having to use such a scene is part of its distinctive charm; it's something that helps to distinguish Clannad from the commonplace and the typical as far as modern entertainment in general tends to handle romances. Quote:
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I respect how anime Tomoya maintains his composure when amongst attractive female friends; how he keeps his cool and actually treats Kotomi, Kyou, Ryou, and Tomoyo just as good friends. Heck, I find it encouraging. Tomoya shows that a guy actually can be a good platonic friend with girls. Edit: One thing to keep in mind here; the visual novel offers up different routes for Tomoya to take. Hence, visual novel Tomoya is not set on any one particular girl: it's up to the person reading the visual novel to decide where Tomoya will go. With the anime, however, Tomoya is set from the very beginning to eventually end up with Nagisa. Tomoya's lack of sexual tension in certain scenes could be due to how he decided early on that Nagisa is the girl for him, and that's that. His behavior around the other members of the female cast makes sense, and is appropriate, from that perspective. Indeed, this is a strength of Tomoya's, that causes him to compare favorably to Yuichi from Kanon 2006 (in this one area, at least). A common criticism I've read of Kanon 2006 (and hold to myself) is that Yuichi seems to shift almost absentmindedly from one girl to the next to the next, causing a certain sense of disjointing to Kanon 2006, and making each individual relationship look a bit weaker because of it (particularly the canon one that many would argue pales in comparison to some of the earlier ones).
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2010-09-13, 16:21 | Link #1502 | ||||
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Secondly, breaking conventions for the sake of breaking conventions is stupid. Kissing is indicative of sexual attraction, which every romantic couple has some degree of. It's not even really a convention, it's just natural. Moments where Tomoya and Nagisa probably should have shared a kiss is instead replaced with more staring and random scene changes. They have a bad habit of doing this all throughout the anime, actually. Quote:
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2010-09-14, 06:24 | Link #1503 | ||||||
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One of Clannad's strengths, for me, is just how memorable it is, and part of what makes it memorable is that it does handle things differently than how other animes do. If Tomoya's relationship with Nagisa played out like any other fairly standard romance, I doubt that it would stand out in my mind as much as it did, and hence Clannad would not stand out in my mind as much as it did. That being said, I would agree that Tomoya's relationship with Nagisa felt a bit too sterile or restrained at times, particularly in After Story. So I agree that a kiss or two would have been good to see. ... Tell you what, after thinking about it a bit, I think that your desired make-out scene might have worked well when it comes to the conception of Ushio. It might have been nice to see Tomoya respond to Nagisa's desire to have a child by him placing one hand behind her neck, kissing her passionately, and then the two moving to a lying position to a fade-out. The way the scene of Nagisa revealing her desire to have a child to Tomoya played out felt a bit awkward to me... and, yes, a bit strange for a married couple. It almost felt like Tomoya was thinking "Oh crap, I actually have to have sex with her now." Part of what makes Tomoya's relationship with Nagisa resonate so well is that it's played straight; there's no fanservice to it, and that makes it feel more real and sincere to me. This is why I was a bit hesitant over some of your suggestions. But the conception of Ushio is pretty darn important to this anime, so showing a more natural lead-up to it might have been very nice. Quote:
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2011-01-13, 04:03 | Link #1507 |
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I pitied Youhei, I hope he had a girl friend in the end. Speaking about that. during the "chiisana tenohira song" .... which, fast tracked the story about 5 years, I think, the other characters , especially the girls are still "single", especially the butt kicker Tomoyo, huhuhuhuh
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2011-01-14, 23:39 | Link #1508 | |
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2011-01-15, 20:53 | Link #1509 | |
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2011-01-15, 21:22 | Link #1510 |
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That would be interesting. Something like "Clannad:Kyou Fujibashi" or "Clannad: Tomoyo's story" or something. Or just an in general summary of the characters lives after high school. Like showing Tomoko studying in America, Kyou becoming a teacher, and so on.
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2011-03-23, 16:19 | Link #1517 |
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I also would've liked some more insight into the other characters. I realise it's likely to happen that people get out of touch after school, but it never sat really well with me how easily the other characters (mainly Kyou and Youhei) were forgotten. More so Kyou even, because she still lived in the same town.
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2011-04-19, 19:17 | Link #1520 |
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Now that you think about it, we rarely got to see Tomoyo anymore after the choice (although there is an OVA dedicated to her chapter) so I guess that can make up for it. But would have liked to see what she was doing while out of school and not going out with Tomoya. Same goes for Ryou (same thing in Kyou's chapter, got a decent amount of attention there) or even how Kotomi is handling her education.
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