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Renegade334 · 2013-07-04, 06:22

That'd depend on how critical mass is achieved - not all nuclear warheads share the same shape (the W88 warhead, for example, has a prolate primary and a spherical secondary, which is a deviation from the traditional Teller-Ulam design) and the detonation process is unique (usually there are shaped charges that are activated at extremely precise intervals in order to compress the fissile material and the fuel into a specific shape, appropriate for nuclear reactions) for each model (not to mention: what are the risks of seawater interfering with the fission process? could it act as an instant moderator? will the presence of water cause a fizzle instead of a full-blown explosion?).

As for reaching the required depths, well, we do have some subs around (remember that James Cameron did very recently reach the bottom of the Mariana Trench himself aboard the Deepsea Challenger bathyscaphe) and the military, in the past, have used some crude but highly efficient ways to create extremely sturdy weapons. For example, during Operation Desert Storm, the first GBU-28 bunker buster bombs dropped in Kuwait were made out of artillery barrels (deactivated M110 howitzers), which were thick and heavy enough to punch through several meters of reinforced concrete (later versions of the GBU-28 were purpose-built, though), so it's not unthinkable that the military would choose a similar approach to build a high pressure-resistant bomb. Heck, they could even stash a nuke inside a bathyscaphe and remote-pilot the sub straight into the portal if need be.

So...if a single country can dedicate a hundred billion dollars to build a top-of-the-line Jaeger, what precludes the rest of the world from building a bathyscaphe-like nuke? It's far more affordable.

But then again, getting the said vehicle close to or inside the darn portal (assuming it's not constantly moving AND that it's permanently open) is a bigger problem. We don't know what powers the darn hole between dimensions either, so the only thing the deep sea nuke might achieve is make a dull, underwater fart.

solidvanz · 2013-07-04, 06:25

Renegade334 · 2013-07-04, 06:31

Oh, so we do get to see Tacit Ronin...

LoweGear · 2013-07-04, 12:09

For those who'd like a screencap of Tacit Ronin's appearance:

Edit:

Another TV Spot, this time showing off the Plasma Caster at the end:

YouTube

https://youtu.be/J_cicZJ6WlE

Sorry; dynamic content not loaded. Reload?

GN0010 Nosferatu · 2013-07-04, 19:57

Here's some still images of said plamsa caster. Best look we've got. I like it, though the 3 outer prongs kinda lessen the coolness to me.

Dragonkid11 · 2013-07-04, 20:53

The Gypsy has two plasma cannons?Sweet!!

SoldierOfDarkness · 2013-07-04, 21:40

So why does Gipsy Danger get to show off it's cannon but Crimson Typhoon doesn't?

And why is it that we haven't got to see much of Crimson Typhoon? Coyote Tango granted is in a flashback but aside from Cherno getting it's butt kicked in almost every trailer we haven't seen much of the Typhoon.

Roger Rambo · 2013-07-04, 22:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by SoldierOfDarkness

So why does Gipsy Danger get to show off it's cannon but Crimson Typhoon doesn't?

And why is it that we haven't got to see much of Crimson Typhoon? Coyote Tango granted is in a flashback but aside from Cherno getting it's butt kicked in almost every trailer we haven't seen much of the Typhoon.

hopefully they're saving action for the movie.

SoldierOfDarkness · 2013-07-04, 22:32

Hopefully it doesn't turn out like Transformers where it's just the one robot that does all the fighting...

On that matter, good news for Canadians

http://ca.movies.yahoo.com/news/paci...191217963.html

Chaos2Frozen · 2013-07-05, 00:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by SoldierOfDarkness

Hopefully it doesn't turn out like Transformers where it's just the one robot that does all the fighting...

Don't say that! You'll jinx it

LoweGear · 2013-07-05, 02:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by GN0010 Nosferatu

Here's some still images of said plamsa caster. Best look we've got. I like it, though the 3 outer prongs kinda lessen the coolness to me.

Those 3 prongs are actually Gipsy Danger's fingers if you notice.

GN0010 Nosferatu · 2013-07-05, 02:41

Doesn't make them any more attractive.

LoweGear · 2013-07-05, 02:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by GN0010 Nosferatu

Doesn't make them any more attractive.

Well, I think they do, since it makes them feel more like palm blasters. That, and I heard (unconfirmed) that Gipsy does a plasma punch in the movie at some point.

Also, have a Tacit Ronin gif:

GN0010 Nosferatu · 2013-07-05, 02:47

Tacit Ronin, now that one looks the most Japanese mecha-ish to me.

LoweGear · 2013-07-05, 02:53

Coyote Tango in the style of old Kaiju films:

(That and more sweet posters here)

GN0010 Nosferatu · 2013-07-05, 02:58

Seeing Coyote Tango like that makes me so sad he won't get major action.

Just has one scene from what I've heard.

Skane · 2013-07-05, 03:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by GN0010 Nosferatu

Seeing Coyote Tango like that makes me so sad he won't get major action.

Just has one scene from what I've heard.

One scene? His death scene?

GN0010 Nosferatu · 2013-07-05, 03:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skane

One scene? His death scene?

Not quite, but still...one scene is horrible for such a fantastically designed Jaeger.

solidvanz · 2013-07-05, 05:59

MeisterBabylon · 2013-07-05, 07:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by GN0010 Nosferatu

Here's some still images of said plamsa caster. Best look we've got. I like it, though the 3 outer prongs kinda lessen the coolness to me.

Fucking REPULSOR BEAMS.

2013-07-04, 06:22	Link #701
Renegade334 Sleepy Lurker Graphic Designer Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Nun'yabiznehz Age: 38	That'd depend on how critical mass is achieved - not all nuclear warheads share the same shape (the W88 warhead, for example, has a prolate primary and a spherical secondary, which is a deviation from the traditional Teller-Ulam design) and the detonation process is unique (usually there are shaped charges that are activated at extremely precise intervals in order to compress the fissile material and the fuel into a specific shape, appropriate for nuclear reactions) for each model (not to mention: what are the risks of seawater interfering with the fission process? could it act as an instant moderator? will the presence of water cause a fizzle instead of a full-blown explosion?). As for reaching the required depths, well, we do have some subs around (remember that James Cameron did very recently reach the bottom of the Mariana Trench himself aboard the Deepsea Challenger bathyscaphe) and the military, in the past, have used some crude but highly efficient ways to create extremely sturdy weapons. For example, during Operation Desert Storm, the first GBU-28 bunker buster bombs dropped in Kuwait were made out of artillery barrels (deactivated M110 howitzers), which were thick and heavy enough to punch through several meters of reinforced concrete (later versions of the GBU-28 were purpose-built, though), so it's not unthinkable that the military would choose a similar approach to build a high pressure-resistant bomb. Heck, they could even stash a nuke inside a bathyscaphe and remote-pilot the sub straight into the portal if need be. So...if a single country can dedicate a hundred billion dollars to build a top-of-the-line Jaeger, what precludes the rest of the world from building a bathyscaphe-like nuke? It's far more affordable. But then again, getting the said vehicle close to or inside the darn portal (assuming it's not constantly moving AND that it's permanently open) is a bigger problem. We don't know what powers the darn hole between dimensions either, so the only thing the deep sea nuke might achieve is make a dull, underwater fart. __________________ << -- Click to enter my (dead) GFX thread. Last edited by Renegade334; 2013-07-04 at 06:36.

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2013-07-04, 06:31	Link #703
Renegade334 Sleepy Lurker Graphic Designer Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Nun'yabiznehz Age: 38	Oh, so we do get to see Tacit Ronin... __________________ << -- Click to enter my (dead) GFX thread.

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LoweGear Secret Society BLANKET Graphic Designer Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: 3 times the passion of normal flamenco	For those who'd like a screencap of Tacit Ronin's appearance: Edit: Another TV Spot, this time showing off the Plasma Caster at the end: YouTube https://youtu.be/J_cicZJ6WlE Sorry; dynamic content not loaded. Reload? __________________ Against all the evil that hell can conjure, all wickedness that mankind can produce... We will send unto them, only you.

2013-07-05, 02:53	Link #715
LoweGear Secret Society BLANKET Graphic Designer Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: 3 times the passion of normal flamenco	Coyote Tango in the style of old Kaiju films: (That and more sweet posters here) __________________ Against all the evil that hell can conjure, all wickedness that mankind can produce... We will send unto them, only you.

2013-07-04, 19:57	Link #705
GN0010 Nosferatu Where's the monoeye? Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Hargenteen Age: 35	Here's some still images of said plamsa caster. Best look we've got. I like it, though the 3 outer prongs kinda lessen the coolness to me.

2013-07-04, 20:53	Link #706
Dragonkid11 A random-man Join Date: Aug 2009	The Gypsy has two plasma cannons?Sweet!!

2013-07-04, 21:40	Link #707
SoldierOfDarkness The Dark Knight Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: From the deepest abyss in the world, where you think? Age: 38	So why does Gipsy Danger get to show off it's cannon but Crimson Typhoon doesn't? And why is it that we haven't got to see much of Crimson Typhoon? Coyote Tango granted is in a flashback but aside from Cherno getting it's butt kicked in almost every trailer we haven't seen much of the Typhoon.

2013-07-04, 22:32	Link #709
SoldierOfDarkness The Dark Knight Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: From the deepest abyss in the world, where you think? Age: 38	Hopefully it doesn't turn out like Transformers where it's just the one robot that does all the fighting... On that matter, good news for Canadians http://ca.movies.yahoo.com/news/paci...191217963.html

2013-07-05, 02:41	Link #712
GN0010 Nosferatu Where's the monoeye? Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Hargenteen Age: 35	Doesn't make them any more attractive.

2013-07-05, 02:47	Link #714
GN0010 Nosferatu Where's the monoeye? Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Hargenteen Age: 35	Tacit Ronin, now that one looks the most Japanese mecha-ish to me.

2013-07-05, 02:58	Link #716
GN0010 Nosferatu Where's the monoeye? Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Hargenteen Age: 35	Seeing Coyote Tango like that makes me so sad he won't get major action. Just has one scene from what I've heard.

2013-07-05, 05:59	Link #719
solidvanz Special Operative Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: East Malaysia Age: 39	<p>No iframe support, please <a href="http://youtu.be/pWAHB8MGHyQ">watch on YouTube</a>.</p> __________________ Minus - Imgur - Last.fm - MAL - MU - PSN