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Ruki0089 · 2021-04-06, 01:10

Fujiwara : Anyhow I won't approve this! Kaguya-san is mine! I can't give her to some idiot like president!
Kaguya : Calm down, you congratulated me last time...
Fujiwara : Changing opinion is evidence of growing up! I'm starting to oppose soul when I see the real thing!

That's very Fujiwara

BWTraveller · 2021-04-09, 01:17

While I want to see more general development of the various plots and characters' situations, I have to admit it's delightful to see Chika back in top form again. At this point she's really just filler but boy does she fill it with fun.

Anh_Minh · 2021-04-09, 02:38

To prove himself worthy, Prez will have to master ballroom dancing without Fujiwara's assistance.

...

And that's how they broke up...

James Rye · 2021-04-09, 03:14

By breaking all of Kaguya's toes?

Tenzen12 · 2021-04-09, 04:16

More like every single bone...

Sixth · 2021-04-09, 09:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ruki0089

Fujiwara : Anyhow I won't approve this! Kaguya-san is mine! I can't give her to some idiot like president!
Kaguya : Calm down, you congratulated me last time...
Fujiwara : Changing opinion is evidence of growing up! I'm starting to oppose soul when I see the real thing!

That's very Fujiwara

I was foolish to even believe that Fujiwara is a steady person for a week.

Lex79 · 2021-04-09, 09:25

It was a nice chapter, obviously everything is played for laughs and no real drama is going to happen. Fujiwara throwing a tantrum for silly and selfish reasons is 100% in character, remember when she was mad that the other student council members were planning to go to the festival without her...while her was enjoying a luxury trip abroad with her family?
Anyway, let's see what kind of challenge President will have to face in the next chapter.

WingedAccelerator · 2021-04-09, 10:52

Fujiwara feeling left out is okay, the rest is Aka's defeat, where he once again couldn't think of anything interesting for her, so she plays the role of the "already rejected heroine that doesn't approve of a relationship and/or still plays rivals just for the sake of it". Sad.

Kanon · 2021-04-09, 18:45

The chapter was the funniest in a long time.

Wandering Soul · 2021-04-09, 20:10

My only complaint is that they cut out the joke of Iino correcting Fujiwara that it's BSS instead of NTR, though that would probably be too niche for most people.

Ichinotachi · 2021-04-09, 21:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kanon

The chapter was the funniest in a long time.

And on top of that it went back to the roots of the manga, when it was just comedy arcs. Aka did a good job on doing this and sticking to what Fujiwara is for this manga, a comedy relief that is needed especially after so much drama in previous arcs like what happened with Ishigami.

Some people think that drama is needed for development just so they can pretend to be intellectuals, 5toubun PTSD

aldw · 2021-04-09, 22:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ichinotachi

And on top of that it went back to the roots of the manga, when it was just comedy arcs. Aka did a good job on doing this and sticking to what Fujiwara is for this manga, a comedy relief that is needed especially after so much drama in previous arcs like what happened with Ishigami.

Some people think that drama is needed for development just so they can pretend to be intellectuals, 5toubun PTSD

To be honest, presentation of comedy is often more true to life than drama as it is more observational, whereas drama like tragedy only needs to get the feels going.

Ichinotachi · 2021-04-09, 23:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by aldw

To be honest, presentation of comedy is often more true to life than drama as it is more observational, whereas drama like tragedy only needs to get the feels going.

This is a good take on the comedy aspect to be honest, after all many truths are hidden between jokes.

Anh_Minh · 2021-04-10, 04:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by aldw

To be honest, presentation of comedy is often more true to life than drama as it is more observational, whereas drama like tragedy only needs to get the feels going.

"Comedy is merely tragedy happening to someone else" ?

WingedAccelerator · 2021-04-10, 04:38

The manga's roots were not about Fujiwara on the receiving end of the jokes 24/7 unless you have a selective memory.

The past 2 chapters just proved that Aka can take whatever direction with Fujiwara, he earned enough goodwill through the manga's good parts that doing needless 180° turns with her are just as much praised as being the bigger person and congratulate Kaguya a chapter before. A simple switch of chapters and something between them would have been a feasible development for her, but no, she just have to continue being the buttmonkey for no real reason. Not sure how many times should I tell that I want her dignity back, I want Aka to stop treating her like an idiot, like a third-fifth wheel of the group, whose disappearance would be unnoticeable.

Or the Student Council should grow a spine already and stop pretending they care about her. It will be better for everyone.

Ichinotachi · 2021-04-12, 14:49

Sometimes is better to let the author speak for himself and how he proceeds with some developments, in this new chapter he literally slapped in the face all the drama queens that think "drama" is the way to proceed to force developments, I wonder what kind of excuses will be made now.

Fujiwara despite being aware of her place she really understood why she was feeling like everyone was excluding her, it was not because this is what was happening, it was the feeling of losing the people she loves. Aka does it again, and the ones complaining got blown the hell out.

Spoiler for F understands:

Ruki0089 · 2021-04-12, 15:18

Finally Aka show Fujiwara's thought
Sad that we won't see no more Fujiwara mama after this as all this time she keep that "Oni' headband despite saying that she won't teach him again.
Now, since she believed Shirogane doesn't need her to teach him again, she finally can let it go....

Spoiler for oni:

WingedAccelerator · 2021-04-12, 15:29

It's easy to avoid civilized discussions regarding different opinions perceiving the work, if any bit of negative criticism results to pointing fingers, name calling and "drama" this, "drama" that. Wanting variety for a character hardly means wanting "drama".

Individually, the upcoming chapter is great. It truly had early Kaguya rootes this time around, not made up bullshits, with a funny twist at the end. Maybe we will get the Mountain vs. Beach rematch based on the new lessons, and also the possible return of French students. Comme c'est mignon.

But the three chapters Fujiwara pack as a whole was disorganized, thrown together without much care outside the upcoming chapter. The first one severely lacks the actual positive backbone of the Fujiwara-Kaguya relationship, be it past or present portrayal. The second one did a needless 180° turn and further ridiculed Fujiwara. The joke wore off long time ago. The third one is really good, making the past two unnecessary, but suffers from no breathing room inbetween the first two, quick "resoultion" cheapens the reward.

James Rye · 2021-04-12, 17:29

Yeah, it pretty much has a "Oh yeah, Fujiwara is also in the series and has no idea about this couple already ****ing each other. Gotta resolve that. Uhm... why the frick would Kaguya never tell her best friend who she got a crush on..." feeling with those three chapters. Could have used some build-up or chapters in the past preparing for some a future shift.

BWTraveller · 2021-04-13, 00:03

Honestly it doesn't seem as bad as you guys are claiming. She only told the people that she felt had knowledge and intelligence and wisdom to help her. Chika has been precious to her, but she was never any of those things, and so when Kaguya needed advice she's the last person she'd go to. The other council members figured it out because they're sharp and not so quick to simply buy a denial. Chika hears a flustered denial and believes it. But Kaguya did not tell Ishigami and Miko, they just figured it out. So while Chika wasn't the first person she told but she was the first SC member she told. And honestly I felt it was a pretty well-ordered scenario, starting with a deeper look into the pair's relationship, showing some comedic rejection and concluding with acceptance.

Also, considering how much people have complained that Chika's only there for comedy and that there's no dramatic development, it seems kind of funny that once confronted they say they never asked for drama. That said, I don't deny that I too would like to see her mature a bit and maybe have relationships that aren't so silly. I don't have a huge problem with it, as there are certainly plenty of high school students whose lives aren't near as angsty as the others' and can just enjoy their days at school, but it does indeed make a slightly excessive contrast for her to be quite this different from the others.

2021-04-06, 01:10	Link #3361
Ruki0089 Yandere Otoko Ruki-tan Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Earth 616	Fujiwara : Anyhow I won't approve this! Kaguya-san is mine! I can't give her to some idiot like president! Kaguya : Calm down, you congratulated me last time... Fujiwara : Changing opinion is evidence of growing up! I'm starting to oppose soul when I see the real thing! That's very Fujiwara __________________

2021-04-09, 03:14	Link #3364
James Rye Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Germany	By breaking all of Kaguya's toes? __________________

2021-04-09, 04:16	Link #3365
Tenzen12 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012	More like every single bone... __________________ "I am convinced that life is 10% what happens to me and 90% of how I react to it" (Charles R. Swindoll)

2021-04-09, 09:25	Link #3367
Lex79 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: Italy	It was a nice chapter, obviously everything is played for laughs and no real drama is going to happen. Fujiwara throwing a tantrum for silly and selfish reasons is 100% in character, remember when she was mad that the other student council members were planning to go to the festival without her...while her was enjoying a luxury trip abroad with her family? Anyway, let's see what kind of challenge President will have to face in the next chapter. __________________ You will die, mortal

2021-04-09, 18:45	Link #3369
Kanon Kana Hanazawa ♥ Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: France Age: 37	The chapter was the funniest in a long time. __________________

2021-04-09, 01:17	Link #3362
BWTraveller Born to ship Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Texas	While I want to see more general development of the various plots and characters' situations, I have to admit it's delightful to see Chika back in top form again. At this point she's really just filler but boy does she fill it with fun.

2021-04-09, 02:38	Link #3363
Anh_Minh I disagree with you all. Join Date: Dec 2005	To prove himself worthy, Prez will have to master ballroom dancing without Fujiwara's assistance. ... And that's how they broke up...

2021-04-09, 10:52	Link #3368
WingedAccelerator Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2014	Fujiwara feeling left out is okay, the rest is Aka's defeat, where he once again couldn't think of anything interesting for her, so she plays the role of the "already rejected heroine that doesn't approve of a relationship and/or still plays rivals just for the sake of it". Sad.

2021-04-09, 20:10	Link #3370
Wandering Soul Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: America	My only complaint is that they cut out the joke of Iino correcting Fujiwara that it's BSS instead of NTR, though that would probably be too niche for most people. __________________

2021-04-10, 04:38	Link #3375
WingedAccelerator Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2014	The manga's roots were not about Fujiwara on the receiving end of the jokes 24/7 unless you have a selective memory. The past 2 chapters just proved that Aka can take whatever direction with Fujiwara, he earned enough goodwill through the manga's good parts that doing needless 180° turns with her are just as much praised as being the bigger person and congratulate Kaguya a chapter before. A simple switch of chapters and something between them would have been a feasible development for her, but no, she just have to continue being the buttmonkey for no real reason. Not sure how many times should I tell that I want her dignity back, I want Aka to stop treating her like an idiot, like a third-fifth wheel of the group, whose disappearance would be unnoticeable. Or the Student Council should grow a spine already and stop pretending they care about her. It will be better for everyone.

2021-04-12, 14:49	Link #3376
Ichinotachi Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: Cali	Sometimes is better to let the author speak for himself and how he proceeds with some developments, in this new chapter he literally slapped in the face all the drama queens that think "drama" is the way to proceed to force developments, I wonder what kind of excuses will be made now. Fujiwara despite being aware of her place she really understood why she was feeling like everyone was excluding her, it was not because this is what was happening, it was the feeling of losing the people she loves. Aka does it again, and the ones complaining got blown the hell out. Spoiler for F understands: >I see.. >I was feeling sad >of knowing that Kaguya san and president are growing up >and be able to live in the world without me happily >It felt like I'm only one being excluded >because I like them both.... >I wonder if it is that what parents feel when kids become independent >President

2021-04-12, 15:18	Link #3377
Ruki0089 Yandere Otoko Ruki-tan Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Earth 616	Finally Aka show Fujiwara's thought Sad that we won't see no more Fujiwara mama after this as all this time she keep that "Oni' headband despite saying that she won't teach him again. Now, since she believed Shirogane doesn't need her to teach him again, she finally can let it go.... Spoiler for oni: __________________

2021-04-12, 15:29	Link #3378
WingedAccelerator Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2014	It's easy to avoid civilized discussions regarding different opinions perceiving the work, if any bit of negative criticism results to pointing fingers, name calling and "drama" this, "drama" that. Wanting variety for a character hardly means wanting "drama". Individually, the upcoming chapter is great. It truly had early Kaguya rootes this time around, not made up bullshits, with a funny twist at the end. Maybe we will get the Mountain vs. Beach rematch based on the new lessons, and also the possible return of French students. Comme c'est mignon. But the three chapters Fujiwara pack as a whole was disorganized, thrown together without much care outside the upcoming chapter. The first one severely lacks the actual positive backbone of the Fujiwara-Kaguya relationship, be it past or present portrayal. The second one did a needless 180° turn and further ridiculed Fujiwara. The joke wore off long time ago. The third one is really good, making the past two unnecessary, but suffers from no breathing room inbetween the first two, quick "resoultion" cheapens the reward.

2021-04-12, 17:29	Link #3379
James Rye Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Germany	Yeah, it pretty much has a "Oh yeah, Fujiwara is also in the series and has no idea about this couple already ****ing each other. Gotta resolve that. Uhm... why the frick would Kaguya never tell her best friend who she got a crush on..." feeling with those three chapters. Could have used some build-up or chapters in the past preparing for some a future shift. __________________

2021-04-13, 00:03	Link #3380
BWTraveller Born to ship Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Texas	Honestly it doesn't seem as bad as you guys are claiming. She only told the people that she felt had knowledge and intelligence and wisdom to help her. Chika has been precious to her, but she was never any of those things, and so when Kaguya needed advice she's the last person she'd go to. The other council members figured it out because they're sharp and not so quick to simply buy a denial. Chika hears a flustered denial and believes it. But Kaguya did not tell Ishigami and Miko, they just figured it out. So while Chika wasn't the first person she told but she was the first SC member she told. And honestly I felt it was a pretty well-ordered scenario, starting with a deeper look into the pair's relationship, showing some comedic rejection and concluding with acceptance. Also, considering how much people have complained that Chika's only there for comedy and that there's no dramatic development, it seems kind of funny that once confronted they say they never asked for drama. That said, I don't deny that I too would like to see her mature a bit and maybe have relationships that aren't so silly. I don't have a huge problem with it, as there are certainly plenty of high school students whose lives aren't near as angsty as the others' and can just enjoy their days at school, but it does indeed make a slightly excessive contrast for her to be quite this different from the others.