(L) Kaguya-sama wa kokurasetai

[Kanon]

That was fun, and we did get a brief explanation of how the negotiations with the Shijos went.

[magnuskn]

Originally Posted by Kanon

Sounds like the good old Kaguya-sama I used to love. I don't want the manga to overstay its welcome any more than it already has though, so I hope it will wrap up soon. Spare us an arc about Mama Shirogane.

Papa Shirogane should hook up with Hayasaka's mom, anyways.

[SirCopert]

Originally Posted by magnuskn

Papa Shirogane should hook up with Hayasaka's mom, anyways.

She is already married.

[magnuskn]

Originally Posted by SirCopert

She is already married.

Yeah, saw that in a Youtube comment a few hours ago as well. Dammit.

[Wandering Soul]

That was truly the best chapter we got in a while. Really glad we're done with the family drama for now.

[WingedAccelerator]

I like the idea of the joke, but who ended up on the receiving end was too predictable. You know the drill already of my issue with this.

Spoiler for Chapter 264:

It's a honorifics/name calling chapter.

Miyuki developed a habit of calling Kaguya by her given name one 1 out of 5 times because it was easier to refer to her as Kaguya when they planned against the Shinomiya Family. But he feels people would ridicule them if he continues to call her Kaguya.

Kaguya noticed the pattern with her name, so she thinks she will also call the President as Miyuki. But it doesn't seem right, so maybe with -kun, or -san? Kei comes visiting the Student Council minus Ishigami and Iino, and Kaguya calls her Kei-chan, which gave her the idea of Miyuki-chan.

Kei quickly figures out what Kaguya plans, but she shouldn't call him Miyuki-chan. Apparently, Miyuki goes total psycho if he hears Miyuki-chan. His name is already feminine, adding -chan just feels like belittling him. A flashback panel is shown where Miyuki is stomping a kid while Kei watches in horror.

Predictably, Kaguya gets away with Miyuki-chan, Miyuki likes it. Kei is annoyed. Fujiwara does it as well, but Miyuki pops a vein, curses, wants to kill her. Fujiwara suffers a defeat.

2 days till Miyuki leaves.

[Kanon]

Spoiler for 264:

I love when these kind of chapters come around because they totally fuck with the many professional translators who refuse to leave honorifics in.

The chapter sounds mildly amusing.

[AP24]

The latest chapter made me realize I almost forgot Fujiwara’s first name

[Lex79]

Ah, this is the typical chapter that makes me glad my job isn't translating manga.
Anyway, it was fun, but for President's sake I hope Kaguya will never let a Miyuki chan slip in public.

[WingedAccelerator]

Reminder that in the official English translation of the manga, for who knows why, Kaguya uses Chika instead of Fujiwara-san and uses Shirogane instead of President. Therefore, it already made no sense how her issue in Chapter 60 was that she can't call Miyuki as President anymore, but the official translation insisted that she struggles calling him Shirogane or President Shirogane, when other times the positions such as Secretary Fujiwara are also erased from the dialogues.

Get fucked with this chapter.

[AP24]

See, this is why I prefer fan translation better than official release translation

[Kazu-kun]

Originally Posted by AP24

See, this is why I prefer fan translation better than official release translation

The problem with fan translations is that some times the grammar is awful. The sad truth is that just knowing Japanese doesn't mean you can translate....

Official translations have their problems, but the overall quality is generally better than fan translations.

[Lex79]

That's the reason I'm in favor of keeping the honorifics in translations, or terms like senpai and kouhai, or using the surnames. You'll never know when the inevitable chapter about how people call each other comes, and if you took liberties with the translation it's going to be a pain in the ass to adjust things. I've seen localizations that try to solve the problem by using pet names or similar things, and sometimes that works, but other times it feels unnatural because it's not the way people speak here. You may say, but it's also unnatural to see honorifics in western languages, but in that case it's easier for me to just use suspension of disbelief.

[aldw]

Originally Posted by Lex79

That's the reason I'm in favor of keeping the honorifics in translations, or terms like senpai and kouhai, or using the surnames. You'll never know when the inevitable chapter about how people call each other comes, and if you took liberties with the translation it's going to be a pain in the ass to adjust things. I've seen localizations that try to solve the problem by using pet names or similar things, and sometimes that works, but other times it feels unnatural because it's not the way people speak here. You may say, but it's also unnatural to see honorifics in western languages, but in that case it's easier for me to just use suspension of disbelief.

If the story setting is specifically Japanese, it only makes sense to stick with the Japanese honorifics to present accurate social interactions. Even though European honorifics don't have the same level of layers as in Japanese (particularly the Senpai/Kouhai relation), I'd still incorporate them in translations depending on the setting as that can still convey the underlying social meaning using the proper equivalents. Using Victorian Romance Emma as an example, it makes more sense to use the English honorific equivalents in translation due to its setting.

[Endscape]

Personally I think that if there's an easily understandable translation, then honorifics should be translated. For example, "sensei" and "san" can be Mr. or Mrs. while "kun" and "chan" should be left as is.

[WingedAccelerator]

By the way, I think the students that Miyuki imagined on the first few pages are based on the students that Aka used for telling the readers about the premise of "Confessing first means you lose!" in Chapter 1 and 11. Not a perfect match, but they are really similar and it could be just that Aka's style has changed.

[WingedAccelerator]

Break next week.

Spoiler for Chapter 265:

1 day is left till Miyuki goes abroad.

Kaguya wants to spend time with Miyuki, but everyone happens to decide to get in her way in Kaguya's view.

First, Ishigami goes emotional with Miyuki. His story just doesn't seem to end. Then comes Iino to do the same thing, talk for a long time, while Kaguya is watching them. When Iino teases Miyuki, Kaguya goes bloodlust mode like in the good times over Fujiwara, but quickly changes her view on Iino in Kaguya fashion when she says some nice things. Fujiwara comes next and talks about some meaningless shit where Kaguya now begs to at least occupy Miyuki with something serious.

Miyuki's friends came last and they will go to karaoke together. Kaguya accepts that a lot of people care for Miyuki, so she is done for that day. Miyuki also wanted to spend time with Kaguya, but it can't be helped. Since it's karaoke, Fujiwara passes on the opportunity.

[Kanon]

Spoiler for 265:

I'm looking forward to what kind of insults Kaguya came up with for Miko. We're already very familiar with the ones for Fujiwara.

[Tactics]

I knew there's comedy tag but somehow 1 page talk 1 page Kaguya commentary format is annoying.

Mikado is really a throwaway character 'huh, his best friend is going to US and he's not even a part of massacre.

[Diluc]

Originally Posted by Tactics

I knew there's comedy tag but somehow 1 page talk 1 page Kaguya commentary format is annoying.

Mikado is really a throwaway character 'huh, his best friend is going to US and he's not even a part of massacre.

Mikado, Shiranui, Abe and Sensei.

Aka did dirty to all of them.