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Old 2023-06-16, 21:12   Link #801
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Have you seen the state she's in at the end? Ruby is on the road to depression and suicide. If he doesn't sit down and have a talk with her now, he never will.
I suspect telling her is not going to help
it's going to make things worse

because that just adds one more person keeping secrets from her to the list
and the movie script revelations about Ai isn't going to help either

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Old 2023-06-28, 11:09   Link #802
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Chapter 122 is out.
Now they can finally talk properly.
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Old 2023-06-28, 11:18   Link #803
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Old 2023-06-28, 11:43   Link #804
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Looks like Aqua only figured it out just now, so the crow girl didn't tell him anything.

Big words from Aqua to tell Ruby to give up on revenge though, I wonder if he'd ever take his own advice.

At least Ruby can finally dispel her Mangekyou Sharingan eyes for a bit.
Ai may have had some darkness in her but she knew how to turn it off in public. If Ruby is going to act as Ai then she needed to learn how to turn her own black star eyes off too.
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Old 2023-06-28, 11:48   Link #805
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Spoiler for 122:
More like this arc will be pretty long. Unless you consider Ruby overcoming her trauma the end of the arc and not the actual movie.
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Old 2023-06-28, 12:06   Link #806
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Aqua tells Ruby to give up vengeance, but Aqua still on vengeance even though he said given up, but it's not...
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Old 2023-06-28, 12:06   Link #807
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Aqua tells Ruby to give up vengeance, but Aqua still on vengeance even though he said given up, but it's not...
Well, yeah. She's a kid in his eyes. He's an adult and its his job to protect her... by murdering their father.
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Old 2023-06-28, 12:17   Link #808
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Well, yeah. She's a kid in his eyes. He's an adult and its his job to protect her... by murdering their father.
It's not just because he's an adult. He has a messiah complex. A messiah complex stemming from the trauma from his childhood. That's why he became a doctor in the first place, and it's also why he always tries to shoulder everything himself.

It'd be cool if he could get some real character growth and get over all this crap, but I doubt that's ever gonna happen.
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Old 2023-06-28, 12:20   Link #809
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Well, even if Aqua doesn't give up on revenge, maybe this will at least help him lighten up and get him to treat Akane and Kana more nicely.
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Old 2023-06-28, 12:25   Link #810
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The relationship between Ruby and Aqua has been so underdeveloped that they finding out each other's identity didn't make me feel absolutely anything.

That's how bad Aka screwed up in that respect.
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Old 2023-06-28, 15:37   Link #811
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That sounds like a 'you' problem, because I found it to be quite a strong moment and I've seen a ton of others say the same.
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Old 2023-06-28, 16:35   Link #812
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That sounds like a 'you' problem, because I found it to be quite a strong moment and I've seen a ton of others say the same.
Their relationship being underdeveloped is a fact though.
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Old 2023-06-28, 16:56   Link #813
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Their relationship being underdeveloped is a fact though.
But it doesn't matter in this case.

What makes their "reunion" emotional is their relationship in their previous lives and what they meant to each other, and that was firmly established. If Aqua and Ruby were strangers as Ruby claimed (she was obviously just lashing out and didn't mean it), it would have still been emotional.

And although their relationship was underdeveloped, Aqua and Ruby themselves weren't. That's why it works.
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Old 2023-06-28, 17:11   Link #814
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But it doesn't matter in this case.

What makes their "reunion" emotional is their relationship in their previous lives and what they meant to each other, and that was firmly established. If Aqua and Ruby were strangers as Ruby claimed (she was obviously just lashing out and didn't mean it), it would have still been emotional.

And although their relationship was underdeveloped, Aqua and Ruby themselves weren't. That's why it works.
The relationship underdevelopment would be more apparent in animated form, which is something the studio folks will need to account for before and once the story reaches the same point in time.
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Old 2023-06-28, 17:59   Link #815
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That's why it works.
If it works for you that's totally cool. It doesn't work for me at all though, and I'm not the only one.
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Old 2023-06-28, 19:34   Link #816
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Their relationship being underdeveloped is a fact though.
And Aqua himself knows that.

He knows that he's neglected and pushed Ruby away and that nothing he could've said would've gone through to her, which is why he had to speak from the heart as Goro.

It's not just about finding out each others' identities; it's also about both of them opening up, dropping the lies and being genuine for the first time in their new lives (note that the starry eyes disappeared at the end) and finding salvation within one another.
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Old 2023-06-28, 20:36   Link #817
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The wonders of actually communicating nd talking to one another. That was a strong moment for me.
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Old 2023-06-28, 21:09   Link #818
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This is uncomfortable

I hope Aka knows this is uncomfortable

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Old 2023-06-28, 22:47   Link #819
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Why?

Because of the resurgence of the Incest jokes?
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Old 2023-06-29, 02:21   Link #820
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Why?

Because of the resurgence of the Incest jokes?
Absolutely

If they kiss, I'm dropping this

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