2017-11-06, 01:17 | Link #1341 |
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You're thinking about the senate. And beside, I was talking about the mood of the country and what direction it will go toward. 2018 election will be first definitive proof if the Republican will held sway or they are in a downward spiral.
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2017-11-06, 08:34 | Link #1342 | ||
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Take a look at https://cookpolitical.com/ratings/house-race-ratings. They rate many more Republican-held House seats as competitive than Democrat-held ones. Perhaps you were thinking about the Senate where the Republicans have many fewer seats at risk than the Democrats. I expect little change in the Senate; in fact the Republicans might gain a couple of seats. The Democrats still have to contend with the effects of partisan gerrymandering and geographic self-segregation by party. I estimate these obstacles will require the Democrats to win at least 53 percent of the two-party national Congressional vote to have a shot at winning the House. The single most important factor influencing this outcome will be Trump's job approval rating. The Democrats hold a substantial lead in "generic" Congressional voting intention, but that lead narrows when polls are restricted to likely voters. If the Democrats are to take back the House, they need to mobilize their potential voters and get them to the polls. One of the more surprising findings in that Post/ABC poll is that self-reported likely turnout is about equal among both Republican and Democratic voters. Quote:
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2017-11-06, 11:04 | Link #1343 | |
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It should be known on how quickly the GOP band together despite their differences and despite murmurings a lot of the GOP supports Trump still....
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2017-11-06, 17:16 | Link #1345 | ||
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I should also mention the grassroots wing of the democratic party is not in favor of a purity test, in the sense that someone like Keith Ellison is the bare minimum most of them are willing to support. I'd like you to elucidate the definition of purity though, and whether any virtue signal of the term is warranted when an opposing position has shown to demonstrably fail; the continuous compromise post-Reagan is precisely why we are in this quandary
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2017-11-07, 02:21 | Link #1347 |
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Trump says:
I have great confidence in King Salman and the Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia, they know exactly what they are doing....Anyone remembers about the little exchange between Trump and Prince Alwaleed in late 2015? Trump is most certainly gloating with his arrest.
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2017-11-07, 15:28 | Link #1348 | ||
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But as annoying as some might be, the numbers are what counts, and sure there's probably some Russian meddling in it, but it should have never been so close in the first place. Quote:
To be fair, I've also stated I'm not a Democrat so I'm looking from the outside. And perhaps there are internal issues I'm not privy too. But on the other hand, to echo most non-American posters who are afraid of nuclear radiation entering the atmosphere around here, I also don't give a fuck either. The world saw Republicans get behind Trump, and they also saw Democrats getting behind 2 different people and maybe even no one. That is what actually happened. They need to fix this shit. They are the folks with the most power to fix things. So the civilized world has their hopes behind them. Don't fuck it up. You talk about moving ahead and dropping past ills. Fine. If the Democrats can band together and nominate a paper bag (the same paper bag), I will vote for the paper bag in for president. [And not question where it was made]
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2017-11-07, 21:44 | Link #1350 | |
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The establishment Democrats will continue to blame Bernie Sanders and his ilk for losing the election, most likely. In the meantime, can I suggest you peruse the Justice Democrats' platform so you can see how they want to "fix this shit"?
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2017-11-07, 22:17 | Link #1351 |
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ok man after read that and some of the things which you are asking i stopped to "agree with you" and think which what you are askin no one gonna do don't matter if rep or dem or any other party because it's are just a sort of "insane asks", or close to that, drugs no srry if a person want to take they life off with it, it's not ok, it's only show how that person are in need for a true help and drugs don't do any good things.
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2017-11-07, 22:48 | Link #1352 | ||
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We are running to risk of losing years of progress made for racial and gender equality. I'm not saying these issues aren't that important. But tell that to the transgender people that got booted out of the military. The Legal residents being detained because they might have become a "terrorist country". Tell that to the people in Japan and South Korea living with the concern of nukes over their head. Those people that are in danger of losing their healthcare. Tell that to the nearly 1 million people that risk being deported because of what their parents did. Regardless of what kind of unity we find in 2018 much less 2020, these things are already happening, and even whatever rope a dope Democrat or even random spineless harem lead Republican that got elected would not be pushing that hard to get rid of Obamacare, the very legacy that the Democrats have been doing this decade with Obama nor would they be dealing with deporting masses of people. These are the direct affects of the political climate, regardless of whoever is right or has a better position. Is this all a ruse to distract from those above issues you listed? Most likely. But if Americans cannot even get to get together to decide on relatively basic issues, then we're pretty damned screwed anyways. What's really missing from the common narrative is that things can and always get worse. Just grab a history book. Quote:
Do some research on Nixon. He makes Trump look like an alright person even if he was better at hiding it.
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2017-11-07, 22:53 | Link #1353 |
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On the subject of drugs, I partial agree with Akuma, but would add controlled use to the list. If it is taxes, regulated, and controlled in specific locations, than if someone wants to tweek, trip, or whatever, they'll be doing it inside a government building where they , in theory, can't harm anyone else if something goes badly. Tax and regulatory revenue would be where the government backs back all those billions to trillions of dollars spent on the War on Drugs.
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2017-11-07, 23:06 | Link #1354 | |
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2017-11-07, 23:06 | Link #1355 | |
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Funny how the country does not care about the health of their citizens and would willingly let people die if they can't afford health care because their decisions got them there so the free market/force of nature/Sun God means their consequences are just, but the same issue comes with drugs and out come the massive state intervention because they really don't care that people are addicted to drugs, but it's gotta be the ones that the pharmaceuticals peddle out to the masses and thus approved and be money is to be made.
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2017-11-07, 23:28 | Link #1356 |
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Well, a lot hinges on the last leg of "legalize, tax, and regulate"; you would not legalize a substance that causes your skin to fall off or make you want to bite people's heads off, but you would legalize substance that gives the same general high as that illegal substance. It is a similar issue with firearms, in so far as you would not grant civilians a rocket launcher, tanks, or drones; there is a line somewhere, the debate should be where that line is
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2017-11-07, 23:35 | Link #1357 |
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The line is definitely not at the right place atm. Except for truly dangerous substances, I'm thinking we should be more of the "ticket" kind of category instead of treating people like criminals but rather violators. And weed should not be involved at all here.
Of course, any criminal acts done under the influence of a drug should be penalized much more heavily.
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2017-11-08, 01:53 | Link #1358 | |
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Even the lot of hardcore Trump supporter thinks Dems should be in charge of Congress because they believe it will be easier for Trump to achieve legislation with Dems in charge.
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2017-11-08, 12:19 | Link #1359 | |
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Current conversation this thread is pretty funny in light Dem victory last night and by a huge margin I might add.
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To be frank Bernie did way more damage to party than he helped and contributed very little, but lastnight proved the party as whole can win without his assistance when all the candidates he dropped support lost. In 2016 should have done what his pick Tom Perriello did when he lost to Northam who turned to endorsed much sooner instead of promoting conspiracy theories about things about things he damn well knew wasn't true. Last edited by Applehell; 2017-11-08 at 14:25. |
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