2004-03-19, 17:56 | Link #1 |
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Adding a strike system Please read GHD !!!
Hi dude well I have been surfing alot of different forums and I came accross one that did a strike system, your probably wondering what I mean well simply you would program in a strikes option that all users would have within their profiles, when some does something lets say bakaish instead of banning them off the bat they would be given a strike after say 3 strikes the mods would ban they or if you choose to they would be auto banned from the system. This is just a idea but It seems to work well and people tend to calm down when they realize that after one more strike they are out. If you need any help integrating the system I might be able to offer assistance with my limited php skills. lol
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2004-03-19, 18:23 | Link #3 |
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Actually I like the idea. It can sometimes be tough to remember if I've already given someone a warning already. It can be particularly hard to know if another moderator has given someone a warning. This way the system can keep track of the warnings. This is a most excellent idea.
I would prefer if only moderators and the person being warned could see how many warnings they've gotten. For moderators it would be helpful if the number of warnings are listed right under the persons avatar (replacing post count) so that we can see how troublesome someone has been in the past when we see a troublesome post. I also think that warnings (or strikes) could be removed if we see something really good from someone. Definitely a great idea. Thanks for it ff7799. If you had strikes against you I'd remove one for that suggestion. The only problem is that I don't know how hard it would be for GHDPro to implement it. I'm still waiting for him to remove the post count.
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2004-03-19, 21:26 | Link #5 | |
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2004-03-20, 16:24 | Link #7 | |
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To me the whole thing smells like a reputation system which only the mods can use. Having a rep system, a report post system, and a strike system feels a little like feedback overkill. |
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2004-03-20, 17:47 | Link #8 | |
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... or do too many people call you a spammer too? and: there would just be 2 levels of ambiguity. the post report is so that a moderator can see, look at, and decide punishment for that post... i think. |
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2004-03-20, 19:41 | Link #9 |
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the idea in itself isn't bad but i'd say add a feature to remove those strikes after a certain amount of time, no use keeping strikes if your previous misstep was 4 months ago. Also mods will have to make rather clear rules then when to give a strike, a warning or a ban. For example don't give people strikes for asking about a licensed show, not everyone keeps up with that, such an offense would only be worth it after a couple of times (but this leads back to the current situation).
Another question is do we really need it? It seems to me these forums are rather well working (especially compared to some other forums I visited in the past) allready and flame wars don't exist at all, if all works fine leave it as it is ... ? |
2004-03-20, 23:11 | Link #10 | |
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As far as strike removal goes I think if someone has earned a strike they should keep it. I know this system may look a bit harsh but I think it also benefits users. Instead of getting Banned immedietly from a pissed off mod they would be given a strike and I doubt the GHD will allow multiple strikes per violation count. I have seen the system in action and it works well, it cuts down on flame wars and it forces people to read the rules because they don't want to be banned. |
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Just out of curosity, do you *actually* have any idea of how to implement such a system? have you given any thoughts to the possible repercussions of your stance? Sounds to me that you're just trying to sound harsh so that you appeal to mods. We all know that only xris's best friends get to be mods. A certain kitty cat came back and told us that. |
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2004-03-21, 01:33 | Link #12 | |
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The only reason that this strike system would be helpful is because sometimes someone is causing trouble that doesn't quite merit a ban and we'd like an easy way to keep track of it so that we'll know if he is a repeat offender.
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2004-03-21, 01:40 | Link #13 |
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I think it sounds like a good idea. But if it turns out to be too much for GDH, what about this?
From what I understand, there are invisible Forum headings just for the mods. Why not make another invisible one called "Notes on Users" or something to that effect, and only create threads in there based on the user name. For example, if I did something bad that would deserve a strike you just create a thread called "FinFangFoom" and in it the mod would make a little comment about what I did and a link to the thread for future reference. If I did something else later the mod could do a search in the "Notes on Users" for "FingFangFoom" and be able to see if I've been warned or punished before from another mod, add their own notes and take appropriate action. Maybe threads could be arranged alphabetically automatically to make it quicker to search. Also next to the file name "FinFangFoom" you could include the IP address just incase you want to do a quick search to find out if a bad poster is just a banned person coming back. Not as effective as the strike system, but maybe a possible alternative. EDIT: Just read Jappi's post, is that what he's talking about?
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2004-03-21, 01:47 | Link #14 |
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We already have something like that. Though we don't create a thread for each user. Boy that would be a lot of threads! But when a thread gets to be several pages long it is hard to keep track of which user once did what. If someone got a warning a month ago and a brief entry is made in that thread, it is still tough to remember that entry from a month ago when I see the same user do something now. I like the strike system as a method of record keeping that is connected to the user so I will see it under his name whenever there is a problem. That is much more convenient than searching a thread. (Or searching to see if there is a thread with his name.)
Besides, it can be awfully inconvenient to have to make a post in a thread every time that I warn someone.
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2004-03-27, 10:34 | Link #17 | |
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I don't see that the effort required to implement such a system is warranted. If we think someone is making a pest of themselves, we generally post a note for the other Mods to see. If such behaviour continues, then we know it may be time to ban someone. That seems to work for us I believe. BTW, why is it you want such a system in place? |
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2004-03-27, 10:49 | Link #19 |
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I'm making this reply without reading through every post in it, so just bear this in mind.
Afaik, vBulletin doesn't by default support this. The only "strike" system is supports is for users trying to hack other users accounts -- it can be set that only a few failed logins are allowed. But the system that is proposed in this thread is not in vBulletin yet and would have to be completely hacked in. And I'm not keen on that, certainly as I'm backlogged already on "scripting jobs" (rewriting both the backend Control Panel of AnimeSuki and eventually the frontend scripts that display the site). Plus -- I think xris makes a good point. |
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