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View Poll Results: Angel Beats! - Episode 13 (END) Rating | |||
Perfect 10 | 195 | 43.05% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 82 | 18.10% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 60 | 13.25% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 36 | 7.95% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 20 | 4.42% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 13 | 2.87% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 11 | 2.43% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 7 | 1.55% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 5 | 1.10% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 24 | 5.30% | |
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2010-06-25, 22:04 | Link #82 | |||||||
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Personally, I think they did great with what little time they had left. It was far too ambitious for too small a timeframe, but they salvaged it well. I expected the entire episode to be devoted to Kanade's past, but this is an acceptable alternative for me. I was bothered by how out-of-character everyone was, yes. I read that as their post-acceptance states, as jarring as it is. Last edited by Claies; 2010-06-25 at 22:16. |
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2010-06-25, 22:08 | Link #84 | |
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5. Oh really? You do realize that would make nearly half that episode worthless for the story as a whole. 6. No. Yuri said there was no God in a brief melodramatic moment. But as you said, just because Yuri said it, means nothing. If her suicide comment can be false and just her personal opinion, so can God. Especially considering how adamant she was originally that he existed and she wanted revenge. 7. It was thrown out of nowhere. Explained? Please... That whole scene didn't add anything to the plot or even explain what that school really was or how it was made. Are they in a computer program or what? If so, then they wouldn't be in the afterlife, would they? It's called "bad writing". |
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2010-06-25, 22:08 | Link #85 |
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Join Date: Jan 2007
Age: 35
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You know, I'll just pretend that's what happened and be done with it. The afterlife school was really Beatrice's mansion where everyone goes to chill out in between deaths, and anything that doesn't make sense was just caused by Trollkastel. All right, everything's explained!
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2010-06-25, 22:08 | Link #86 |
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Episode has standard people leaving... OK!
They go 1 by 1, slowly, wasting the rushed last episode... OK! Kanade & Otonashi are left alone together and drag out the goodbye, BONUS! I came here long before you but you donated your organ to me ... PLOT TWIST AND PARADOX Up until that moment, things didn't seem amazing, but when the truth came out, it was unexpected. What I don't get is why she couldn't have accepted his love or his idea of being together forever. Did she not love him back, did she not have the same regrets, what? This is the most ambiguous part that I'd like clarification on why she had to leave. Him bawling and crying didn't disturb me too much. I seriously expected him to pull the Angel Player remake up till here. To create something, to pass the job on, something. Just having the person you love leave, if that didn't create a huge regret, I don't know how it works. The ending part worked well, people vanishing off, it does show that underneath it all, Kanade & Otonashi had a relationship that could only be seen once everyone was gone. As for the reincarnation... it was weak. Sad but true. |
2010-06-25, 22:10 | Link #87 | |
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2010-06-25, 22:10 | Link #88 | |
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2010-06-25, 22:16 | Link #89 | |
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Well, the ending scene is a bit ambigious, since you can argue that 1. It's a reincarnation scene after the events of AB 2. It's a flashback that kanade and Otonashi had met before in the past (when Otonashi was still working) and it could be that Kanade dropped something and Otonashi wanted to get her attention to return something.
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2010-06-25, 22:20 | Link #90 | |
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5. I don't see how them being imagined makes the episode worthless, they basically served to make us feel sadder for Yui's disappearance and Hinata and her's love. I don't really see how it's a waste. 6. I didn't say just because Yuri said something she was wrong. I'm just saying straight up, there was no evidence at all of a God existing or being in that world at all based on what was shown in the anime. None. Unless the existence of an afterlife is proof enough but I don't think so. 7. He said he was basically a program left behind to monitor the world for the programmer who made angel player. I don't see how that's hard to understand, he wasn't a human he was just a special NPC. This is also the last time I'm replying since I think this stuff was explained enough in the anime for a satisfactory conclusion.
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2010-06-25, 22:22 | Link #91 |
Homo Ludens
Join Date: Nov 2007
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I gotta say, I can't wait for the Final Impressions thread.
As for this episode itself... wow. Just wow. I haven't seen anything this unwatchably bad in a very long time. Just... I have no words. None at all. No words can accurately describe the extent to which this show has failed. The only good thing is that we can finally figure out what the title means. But wait, that's a bad thing since it means they had been planning this terrible ending from the very beginning. Argh. |
2010-06-25, 22:27 | Link #92 | |
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1) Why Kanade showed up in Purgatory before Otonashi, despite dying after him: After you leave the mortal world, you're no longer on the mortal timeline. Your soul is under god's control, whoever that is. 2) This requires a stretch of imagination, but I like to think that Otonashi spent some time in the afterlife alone before coming to an understanding that he will meet her again and finally leaving. Romantically, he's not the best guy in the world. I wouldn't be surprised if Kanade is the first person he ever loved after his sister, hence the desperate attachment. 3) Same as #1 for why Otonashi and Kanade managed to meet each other reasonably the same age. Think of it this way: If there is a god (screw it, I'll call him Maeda, because he made all this up), he decided that the best way to resolve Otonashi and Kanade is to make them meet in Purgatory exactly this way. There, I walk away from the series feeling okay. |
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2010-06-25, 22:33 | Link #93 | |
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hmm...i guess i misinterpret one important part of Kanade's dialouges "I was able to stay alive because of your heart. Even now your heart is beating in my chest. My one regret was being unable to say thank you to the person who saved my life." she said "I was able to stay alive because of your heart" and "My one regret was being unable to say thank you to the person who saved my life". this could mean that the Heart operation was a success! and she wakes up knowing that too. and she lived with one regret, which is to thank the person who saved her life. so this must also imply that she had finished living her 1st life/that life. ehh...no one knows whether she lived to an old ripe age or met an accident at a young age. i mean...i do not know how reincarnation works firstly. if she did lived to an ripe old age and then died, its amazing she can come into this Afterlife world and take on her young-age looks. i live that up for anyone to speculate. "even now your heart is beating in my chest" could be a direct description of how she is feeling at that moment in the afterlife, while talking to Otonashi. Of course! i can be wrong to interpret all these english translation. i will be assuming that the english translation is 100% accurate. lol! alright...i give up trying to find out how otonashi was able to come back to life. i just take it that the ending was showing both Kanade and Otonashi already living their 2nd life and the My Song was etched into their souls/hearts. All this Afterlife and Reincarnation and Timeline...too much loopholes and room for speculation. lol. but i guess KEY doesn't know a lot about Afterlife and Reincarnation and how all that works out too...do they? they will be studying like MAD CRAZY about it...it can go really deep. The End. [for me] lol. |
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2010-06-25, 22:45 | Link #94 | |
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2010-06-25, 22:49 | Link #95 |
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This anime seriously need to be remade in a full fledged plot, with at least 26 episodes. Angel Beats! has a really interesting setting and lots of potentials, but rushed pace, plot holes and confusing stuff here and there kind of ruined it.
The only enjoyable thing that I can see in the final episode is Yuxuru x Kanade scenes. My personal biggest complaint is the lack of TK, though that's expected...
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2010-06-25, 22:51 | Link #96 | |
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2010-06-25, 22:52 | Link #97 |
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Considering the general pacing problems this show had, I'm going to take the ending at face value. I just see no point in trying to over-analyze this show.
So with that, the show in general was rather enjoyable. The ending caught me in one of those near-crying state but I think only ef: a fairy tale of two has managed to actually make me shed a tear.
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2010-06-25, 22:54 | Link #99 |
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Well. I dunno why everyone's overanalyzing this show. Generally, with anime, I keep my standards moderately low and just enjoy it for what it is.
That aside, enjoyed the ending. Liked how Yuri was smiling during the ending credits. Nice way to finish it. |
2010-06-25, 22:56 | Link #100 | |
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Just because it isn't "realistic" does not mean that everything has to be left up for the viewer to interpret. Refusing to explain anything, especially when the work in question thrives on maintaining a sense of mystery, is bad writing. |
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