Nanoha FanFiction Discussion

[Alavon]

Originally Posted by Satashi

On that note, I'm pausing AlternativeS 3-2 until tomorrow. It's 1.3k words long and still has a bit to go. Bed time now, class tomorrow ><

Don't worry about it. I was just teasing.

EDIT: Page claim for RB's harem... XD

[Nanya01]

@ deathcurse, yes, only 16 pages. Nearly 17. Not done with it just yet... Still have to have one fight scene in it...

[Alavon]

Nanya is a GUY?! Why is it that I always get everyone's gender wrong...

*sigh*

Except Satashi's...

@Nanya: 17 pages is...a LOT of pages...

[Nanya01]

Yes. I'm a guy. I know, it seems that I'm in a minority around here.

[DezoPenguin]

Heh, this would be a double post as I'm typing it but...tonight I'm guessing not!

Originally Posted by isagrimorie

Since the 'net mysteriously ate my last post... I thought I'd try again! And, wow RadiantBeam, you do seem to have your own harem!

And, er, if anyone's interested here's the WIP plot I've come up with.

It’s basically a crossover with Sailor Moon and Nanoha (please don’t shun me!) and I’m actually going to take cues to the ol’ Sailor Moon epic stories of old and the manga with a big dollop of Sailor Moon anime thrown in.

Spoiler for WIP plotbunny:

It starts, as all things start with a Lost Logia (boy, those ancient civilizations were busy!), a few well intentioned extremists and Earth. Or rather a parallel Earth since I’m planning to use the ‘Time and Space’ part of the TSAB. Somehow a Lost Logia (or maybe the well intentioned extremists) make their way to the Senshi!Verse much to Setsuna’s (Sailor Pluto and the Guardian of Time) annoyance putting her out of commission in the story since she returns to the Time Gates to rectify the problem and make our heroes (Nanoha and Fate) entry into the Senshi-verse that much harder.

Once Nanoha and Fate arrive on Earth they realize two things 1) This Earth is already being protected by another magical force 2) There’s a time discrepancy between universes, for one senshi!Earth seems to be a few years behind the Earth Fate and Nanoha knows and if they stay on this side of the universe much longer their way back home might be closed forever.

In order to address both issues Nanoha and Fate decide to create an alliance with the senshi. Something the senshi, or rather the ‘Inners’ (Usagi, Minako, Rei, Ami and Makoto) welcome but the ‘Outers’ (Michiru and Haruka) are wary about.

The villains of the story are as mentioned well-intentioned extremists very much in the vein of the Book of Darkness incident. Their actions are extreme, really extreme but in their minds its the only way to achieve their goals and they have no regrets about the things they are about to do.

Something I would like to keep vague until I really flesh out their plans and motives. I do know they will be able to utilize a few magical apparatus and technology from the Nanohaverse probably even hinting a connection with Jail.

My main problem here is I don’t really know how to start it. I have the idea in my head but I can’t seem to put the words down on paper and whenever I do it only comes out really, really lame. Another problem is I don’t know whose POV I want to start with. Do I want the senshi’s POV on the TSAB mages or do I want to start with Nanoha/Fate’s perspective on the senshi?

I’m also afraid of making Nanoha and Fate too strong and the senshi might come out the worse in the story.

Not to mention that I haven’t made up my mind whether I should make it a pre-Striker S or post-Striker S story since both have merits. I do know I want to touch on the aftermath of Nanoha’s injuries and how it affected Fate and Nanoha’s relationship since its canon that it made Fate more concerned about Nanoha to the point that Signum calls her a worry wart and it stopped Fate from doing any more sparring with Nanoha. Nanoha seemed very accepting of this during Striker S but I doubt Nanoha took to it easily at first.

Okay, I'm going to go out on a limb here. This doesn't sound like a fic idea, but rather like two or three fic ideas merged together. Particularly, the last part of the summary looks like an interesting subplot to play out (or the main plot of a shorter fic)--Nanoha's reaction to her injury is a good topic to explore. This is not something to delve into in a crossover unless it directly ties in to the main theme of the crossover. With regard to such a fic, you should be focusing largely on the reasons for the crossover, particularly when, as you note, there are villains involved in destabilizing things, the fight against the villains, and the relationships between the casts. Throwing in two many subplots will just pad the size of the story without really adding too much too it.

With regard to starting the story, you probably want to start with Nanoha and Fate, simply because they're the ones who are transitioning from one universe to the other. Otherwise, if you start with the Inner Senshi, you get the reaction, "Hey, where did these guys come from?!" Beginning with Nanoha and Fate lets you start developing your plot by detailing how they got from Universe A to Universe B (if not the mechanism for it, at least the events which sucked them in).

And I now drop out of the conversation again to walk the dog...

[Alavon]

Originally Posted by Nanya01

Yes. I'm a guy. I know, it seems that I'm in a minority around here.

No...you're not...

@isagrimorie: Sailor Moon!? That...sounds...AWESOME!!!!

[00-Raiser]

Originally Posted by Nanya01

@ deathcurse, yes, only 16 pages. Nearly 17. Not done with it just yet... Still have to have one fight scene in it...

That's a freakishly large number of pages. My chapters are usually 5-8 pages long, about 3,000 words long. I like ending chapters on cliff hangers, so I cut up what could be a longer chapter, I guess.

Originally Posted by Nanya01

Yes. I'm a guy. I know, it seems that I'm in a minority around here.

WHAT?! You mean there are WOMEN? On the INTERNET? Mind = blown!

[GlancingReverse]

Hey, Most Fanfic Writers are Girls, right?

The key word being most...

[isagrimorie]

@deathcurse: Thanks! I actually like antagonists like that, they're more interesting that way and provide an even more interesting dilemma to the heroes. Hmm... and starting the story with Setsuna does have merit! I'll have to explore that! But, yes, it will be a mutli-chapter although I hope I'll be able to instill a sense of urgency still and keep the chapters to a minimum!

Originally Posted by DezoPenguin

Um, and while we're discussing names, were you going for "Is a grimoire" in your user name?

Heh. It actually had roots from when I first started a blog and wanted a cool username... I found grimoire but when I registered... I, uh, misspelled it. But then I decided to keep it since well, I've been using it for years. 'Isa' is actually part of my name and I found in other forums other people already had 'grimoire' or grimorie so I added to tack on the Isa.

But, you know your breakdown is so much better that I'll go with that from now on!

[Nanya01]

Originally Posted by 00-Raiser

That's a freakishly large number of pages. My chapters are usually 5-8 pages long, about 3,000 words long. I like ending chapters on cliff hangers, so I cut up what could be a longer chapter, I guess.

*Ker-Blink* Huh? Really? But the chapter's not done yet.

[Nita]

Originally Posted by 00-Raiser

WHAT?! You mean there are WOMEN? On the INTERNET? Mind = blown!

Hey! I'm a girl too... ;;;

Mmm.. Well, in the fandoms I've been girls were always majority ._.

[GlancingReverse]

16 is already pretty big. The longest I've gone is 6, but most of mine are 3.

[Nanya01]

Originally Posted by GlancingReverse

16 is already pretty big. The longest I've gone is 6, but most of mine are 3.

...But I like to read long stories.

[RadiantBeam]

Originally Posted by GlancingReverse

16 is already pretty big. The longest I've gone is 6, but most of mine are 3.

The longest chapter I ever wrote for a story was 18 pages.

[Alavon]

You're all CRAZY!

[Nita]

I'm with you, Nanya. Long stories keeps you focused on something, I don't like when its too short, cause I get bored easily, or I just don't read it carefully. Depends on the topic too, if its long and plain, I'll drop it halfway.

20 pages are fine for me at least

[deathcurse]

Originally Posted by isagrimorie

@deathcurse: Thanks! I actually like antagonists like that, they're more interesting that way and provide an even more interesting dilemma to the heroes. Hmm... and starting the story with Setsuna does have merit! I'll have to explore that! But, yes, it will be a mutli-chapter although I hope I'll be able to instill a sense of urgency still and keep the chapters to a minimum!

Heh. It actually had roots from when I first started a blog and wanted a cool username... I found grimoire but when I registered... I, uh, misspelled it. But then I decided to keep it since well, I've been using it for years. 'Isa' is actually part of my name and I found in other forums other people already had 'grimoire' or grimorie so I added to tack on the Isa.

But, you know your breakdown is so much better that I'll go with that from now on!

Glad to help . And I realized that I had mis-spelt your mis-spelt name...

Originally Posted by Nanya01

...But I like to read long stories.

Yeah, the story....but each of your chapters can practically be stories on their own . Still amazed that you can churn that much out in such a short amount of time!

Originally Posted by RadiantBeam

The longest chapter I ever wrote for a story was 18 pages.

Now you're just showing off!

[Nijiru]

Originally Posted by Alavon

You're all CRAZY!

We know, and thank you.
I leave for 90 minutes to come home and the topic jumps 6 pages? At least I've caught up already.
I did get another fanfic idea during my trip home, but I'll be discussing it with people on the chat once I get it straightened out.

EDIT: And got ninjaed by 3 people.

[Nanya01]

Originally Posted by deathcurse

Yeah, the story....but each of your chapters can practically be stories on their own . Still amazed that you can churn that much out in such a short amount of time!



Now you're just showing off!

Feh... Fast?

Try 100KB+ of walls of text for fanfics churned out daily? Now THAT'S insanely fast. ... I wish Oneshot would come back.

Hey, our last few chapters for Day in the Life, the shortest one was 19 pages long.

[00-Raiser]

Originally Posted by Liitha

Hey! I'm a girl too... ;;;

Mmm.. Well, in the fandoms I've been girls were always majority ._.

It's an old meme that girls don't exist on the internet. If some one says they're a girl, they're just a guy pretending to be a girl.

Obviously it's not true, but I do have the mind set of "assume male unless otherwise specified." So I dunno what to call you users with 'unspecified' genders

... Incidentally, I've been mistaken for a female online several times... Apparently writing good romances brings my virility into question...

Anyways, on chapter length, long chapters are good, but I think for fanfiction, shorter chapters are better. I'm more of a casual reader, personally, so I'd rather have shorter bites that I don't need to commit a lot of time to. And if something else comes up, I can quickly finish the chapter and pause there before reading the next one. I'm not too fond of having to stop mid chapter.