2008-12-18, 17:54 | Link #81 |
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That's one of the trainings Presidents go through before getting seated, and now he is going to teach it to his successor. There is always some guy out there who would want to throw something at you, be it shoe, tomato, cake, bottle, or something else.
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2008-12-18, 18:24 | Link #83 |
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As long as US president-elect Barack Obama works his policy and political directions toward the things he promised during his election campaign, nobody will toss anything at him. Instead, he will earn the admiration and respect from most non-Americans.
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2008-12-18, 22:28 | Link #85 |
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008...h-shoe-thrower
It seems that something unpleasant may be happening to the poor Iraqi journalist who is held captive right now and may end up getting sentenced to prison for at least 2 years for assaulting a foreign leader. Otherwise, it is not possible for him to apologize after such an emotional incident of a shoe toss. Obviously, the shoe toss wasn't a joke and I don't see why he is apologizing all of a sudden, unless something bad is done to him while held captive. |
2008-12-18, 23:04 | Link #86 | |
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Imagine this. If the same thing would have done against Saudi leaders or any other Arab country leader, those guys would have been legally tortured and put in prison for the rest of their lives. Their normal is not your normal. They are not capable of thinking regarding how an American might act in this situation, even though they see it with their own eyes. So, right now, I believe it is not only the guy who is feeling the side effects of his action. It is quite likely that his family will also feel its effects. Be it the American trained police or Saddam police. They come from the same cup, they share the same lifestyle. And they are capable of doing the same things. Also, the tribal people in Middle East never get satisfied by just punishing the person in consideration. They also feel themselves responsible to also punish the family of that person (similar to blood feuds, and this does not always work as one from me, one from you). In my country there are many examples of that, even though the impact of tribes are highly limited. And I am sure Iraq should be in much worse conditions. Let's hope that, at least, his family survives that. |
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2008-12-18, 23:49 | Link #87 |
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It seems to me that Bush has missed a golden opportunity to score some goodwill in the Middle East by simply asking al-Maliki to pardon the poor journalist.
After all, the shoe-throwing act is, ironically, a good example of the "democracy" that the United States has "given" to Iraq. |
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LOL at all the fantastic photoshopped images currently on the "internets" demonstrating Bush's incredible ninja prowess even at the age of 62. So that's what he's good at.
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2008-12-19, 17:04 | Link #90 | |
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Do you even know what the term "democracy" mean? As the places you mentioned, most of them don't seem to be democratic at all. Certainly, North America is very democratic which is correct. Singaporeans are not dis-interested in politics, but rather pressured and stressed to be dis-interested. Generally, the country is somewhat a dictatorship regime when it comes to politics, even though it promotes a democratic-styled economy, kinda like the current Russia minus the military power, of course.. If the Singapore government finds anybody that deviates from the perspective of the government, the individual or group will be in some trouble. And if the individual or group is not ethnic Chinese, they might get deported because the regime promotes racism and double-standard citizenship. Democracy? Yeah, right.. Nice joke! |
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2008-12-22, 21:35 | Link #91 | |
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And they say democracy is the last form of government...anarchy ftw!
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2008-12-22, 21:58 | Link #92 | |
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You're clearly well-read, but your understanding of world events is grossly deficient in many instances. Since when were any non-ethnic Chinese Singaporeans deported for disagreeing with the government here? And you might want to explain what you mean by "double-standard" citizenship. I have plenty to say about that, but I hardly think foreigners would understand the nuances involved. |
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Singapore and Japan are rather similar in this, no one really cares about politics, we only see the economy. We ain't China. Do you even know what the term "democracy" mean? As the places you mentioned, most of them don't seem to be democratic at all. Certainly, North America is very democratic which is correct. Singaporeans are not dis-interested in politics, but rather pressured and stressed to be dis-interested. [/QUOTE] As Bill Clinton once said, it's the ECONOMY, stupid. Not the PAP. We want a good economy. Or we'll be either be dead or return to becoming the 14th state of Malaysia. Quote:
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2008-12-22, 23:13 | Link #94 |
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You guys may wanna continue that either in the 'asia get along' thread or in your own profile boards, borderline off topic?
(And potentially volatile reading kyon's reply) Speaking of which, the news story post about the attacker getting tortured should file under here huh?
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I know this is off-topic, but I couldn't resist. If you mods would prefer, you can move all these into a new or relevant thread.
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Two differences between Malaysia and Singapore: 1. Singapore practices meritocracy while Malaysia practices a sort of apartheid that favours the native-born rich Malays over the Chinese, Indians, and even poor Malays. 2. Singapore, being small, does a better job cleaning up corruption. This gives other authoritarian rulers around the world the illusion that they can do the same without being transparent. Otherwise, both are actually similar in the authoritarian tendencies of the ruling party. If it wasn't for the "internets", the opposition in Malaysia would have been squeezed dry already. Though because Singapore favours meritocracy, they have less imbeciles in government than Malaysia, and so are more efficient and less prone to pissing the electorate off. Quote:
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2008-12-23, 11:43 | Link #99 |
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Having a "Racial Harmony Day" does not mean there is no racism in a country. This seems to be a problem in Singapore...having a lot of meaningless gestures doesn't mean that you eliminate racism.... Also, what is the "Indian Chef" Thailand reference? Some kind of racist dig?
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