2009-01-28, 16:42 | Link #41 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: East Cupcake
|
^Just as a clarification (and not as a disagreement to your post), Oda did not work on Dragonball, he worked as an assisstant to Nobuhiro Watsuki on Rurouni Kenshin (and you can see many of the lessons (concerning story/plot/character development) that Oda took from working under Watsuki) as well as a slew of other smaller manga (his other big job was working for the humour manga New Jungle King Tar-chan, which influenced much of Oda's whimsical humour (Luffy was, in my opinion, influenced greatly by Tar-chan)), but Oda never worked with Toriyama on Dragonball (unless you are counting Cross Epoch).
|
2009-01-28, 16:47 | Link #42 | |
So Like A Rose
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Foxglove
Age: 36
|
Quote:
__________________
|
|
2009-01-28, 16:57 | Link #43 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2007
|
Quote:
Worst case scenario, if none of the marines have Haki just based on showings of combat so far (like you've said), it doesn't mean that Luffy is simply going to wipe the floor with them. Two of the admirals so far (Aokiji and Kizaru) are impervious to physical attacks since they are logia users. But from what we've seen of Haki, regardless of what type of devil fruit the user possesses, the power of Haki can break through the defenses of anything and internally injure the person. Even though this new found power would allow Luffy to damage the admirals, he still has to watch out for their ridiculously dangerous logia abilities. Aokiji and Kizaru are monsters and so far we have only seen them play around with their opponents. Just because you can damage someone, does not necessarily mean you're going to win. Luffy vs Crocodile round 2 is a perfect example of this. Luffy knew his weakness, but he still lost against him.
__________________
|
|
2009-01-28, 18:36 | Link #44 | ||
Banned
|
Quote:
Quote:
|
||
2009-01-28, 18:42 | Link #45 | |
So Like A Rose
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Foxglove
Age: 36
|
Quote:
__________________
|
|
2009-01-28, 18:44 | Link #46 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2005
|
Quote:
Full script out now. Level 3 bounties are 50m+. The net was iron, but with seastone too (iron mixed with seastone powder perhaps?). Enough to have anti Devil Fruit powers, I guess, but not enough to make it super-hard. The Level 2 prisoners are going wild - and giving credit to Buggy The Blugori are going to be sent in to deal with them. Sengoku sure isn't happy with Luffy doing so many unheard of things in a row - Enies Lobby, punching a Tenryuubito and now Impel Down. There has been one escapee 20 years ago, but Luffy will be the first successful intruder it seems. Impel Down has held hundreds of thousands of prisoners to date. Sengoku's also annoyed with Kuma reporting that he'd finished off the Strawhats at the archipelago - Sengoku now knows that Kuma lied. However, Sengoku doesn't seem to have a clue as to how Luffy could have gotten away from that situation (doesn't he know about Kuma's ability to send people flying long distance - others do, so it's not "secret"). No sign that Hancock is in any immediate suspicion. Anyway, with Impel Down hearing back from Sengoku about Luffy, they now know his objectives. This means they're much more intent on stopping him than before. When Mr 3 and Buggy get away from Luffy, they hope Luffy'll make a good decoy - which he does, since the guards are focused on him (though he's already founds stairs going down). Buggy and Mr 3 hope to lurk for a bit since the stairs to Level 2 are currently blocked. Mr 3 is suffering quite a lot from the heat (seems enough that a bird cooked in the air or something) due to being a waxman. I'm not sure if the guards and commander will follow Luffy down to Level 4. I wonder exactly how hot that place is, given Level 3 is already very hot. According to the commander there's 4 wandering beast gaolers in the floors below (no patrols then?). Apart from the warden, maybe those'll be the main fights Luffy will have to win to get to Ace then. Anyway, Luffy's progressing pretty quickly at the moment - faster than it looked like a few chapters ago. I wonder if we'll see Mr 1 next week.
__________________
|
|
2009-01-28, 19:03 | Link #48 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2005
|
Eh, Moria will always be the #1 Shichibukai in my mind. I just love the fact that someone as lazy as him can still be such a huge threat (gotta love uniqueness!). I'd actually consider Blackbeard having the #1 spot instead, but I sort of see him being in a different league of his own despite him being a Shichibukai, what with him essentially being a "darker" version of Luffy. I'd still say that he's one of my top favorite villains overall, though.
Quote:
Yep, Luffy certainly did survive those battles by the skin of his teeth. Heck, you can even say that the same applies to the Lucci battle as well, seeing as the marines held him in such high regard for being a legendary assassin. But.... hey, shounen logic and all that. Still, that makes me all the more curious as to find out who the final boss in the Impel Down arc will be. Luffy's already commented that the freaky creatures guarding the first two levels alone were no pushovers, so who knows what final obstacle Luffy will have to face off against before he can successfully rescue his brother? While the wardens are probably pretty powerful in their own right, I'm not 100% certain that they'll be the final bosses for this storyline. After all, we also have to take into account the types of prisoners who are held in level 6+, and whatever creatures will be guarding over them. Luffy's gonna have a helluva rough time in the prison's lower levels...... |
|
2009-01-29, 02:40 | Link #49 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2008
|
Well, what about Sentoumaru? That was (imo) pretty obvious haki use, from both, drawing style and its effects on Luffy. Also, while i think hes anything far from a pushover, Sentoumaru is certainly not WGs/Marines very top notch. Guess Oda would have a hard time to explain, how the Marines could actually not know about Haki. However, since its mostly a playing tool for the really strong ones (well, except in haki island of course ), im really positive that we will see more haki-based Marines in the New World.
Last edited by Talendra; 2009-01-29 at 02:51. |
2009-01-29, 03:27 | Link #50 |
Absolute Haruhist!
Artist
Join Date: Mar 2006
Age: 37
|
If the topic is Haki, I'll be sure to stop by.
I'm not sure what people thinks Haki is now, but I'll just say that as long as someone is a leader, has demanding presence, is intimidating, is powerful, he already has Haki. Why does the Pirates and even Marines have so much fear and respect for the Admirals? Because they are extremely powerful, have a demanding presence and intimidates them. Their Haki overwhelms those before them, just hearing their names, knowing that they are around somewhere sends shivers down their spines. For Sakki, why do you think the Marines fear Lucci so much? Because that man is a walking killing machine, he doesn't hestitate to kill, he loves killing. The thought of crossing paths with him may mean that your life is in danger, that is Lucci's Sakki, people see him as an embodiment of death.
__________________
|
2009-01-29, 12:33 | Link #51 | |
Junior Member
Join Date: Jun 2008
|
Quote:
"Mr 2 is famous for breaking out of prison" and so they decided to keep him under more security |
|
2009-01-29, 14:09 | Link #52 |
Know who you are
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Resides within the depths of Ned infested Glasgow
|
well Bon-chan played a part in freeing other BW members whos to say his bount didn't raise after that, he did go up agianst Hina twice and I'm guessing he royally pissed her off both times
__________________
|
2009-01-29, 19:02 | Link #54 |
Hentai
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Iceland
|
But is it me or is the World Government more evil than pirates? I mean they talk about protecting "justice" and all that stuff, but every time i see them doing something like getting rid of pirates or for exemple the Buster call how inhuman it was on not only Enies Lobby but also Ohara.
I have maybe discovered a theory on Will of D and the missing past... The Will of the D were royal family lines all the way to Luffy and few others for exemple... * Monkey D. * Gol D. * Marshall D. * Jaguar D. who rule over the Ancient kingdom 800 years ago during and something happen between the Ancient Kingdom were the Monkey, Gol, Marshall, Jaguar rule over fought against the 20 kingdoms that soon became the World Governmant. I cant fully create a theory since there are alot of holes, but since everyone who has The Will of the D, cant seem to figure why they have it, has to be involved with the lost centuray. |
2009-01-29, 22:15 | Link #55 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2005
|
It'll be quite interesting to see how Sengoku will handle the situation with Luffy.... seeing how pissed he is over Luffy's various antics, and the fact that none of the various marines/Shichibukai sent after him were successful in capturing our Supernova friend (whether it was deliberate or not), he may decide to travel to Impel Down to deal with Luffy personally. Garp's reaction to Luffy breaking into the prison makes it clear that he has no intention of arresting his own grandson, and Kuma's going to be under a lot of hot water with the government now that Sengoku's aware that he didn't wipe out the crew at Sabaody like he should have ('course, this also raises the possibility of Kuma working for Dragon, but that's another story......). Looks like if Sengoku wants the job of taking out Luffy done right, he'll most likely have to do it himself.....
|
2009-01-29, 22:20 | Link #56 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: East Cupcake
|
^I doubt Sengoku can make any sudden movements right now (unless he, or a subordinate, has a power that allows him to travel great distances quickly), considering that Sengoku is waiting for Whitebeard to strike. That being said, I could definetly see Sengoku sending large amounts of reinforcements in order to quell a rebelion within Impel Down, as well as secure Luffy and, more importantly, Ace.
|
2009-01-29, 23:02 | Link #57 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2005
|
I don't think so... remember, he also said he had absolutely no intention of catching him at water 7 as he went there with no orders, and he left just like that; but then he came back with orders from sen goku to capture Luffy and that's exactly what he tried to do... If he's ordered to, Garp will chase after Luffy with his strength... grant it, if Luffy manages to escape despite Garp's best efforts, he will also be the first to laugh it off and boast about how strong he is; while still disapproving his choice of life
|
2009-01-29, 23:29 | Link #58 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2005
|
Quote:
While it's true that Sengoku forced Garp to return, he still practically let Luffy escape in the end. Sure, his one-man Buster Call act was impressive (as well as tossing that gigantic cannonball), but I still doubt that Garp put a lot of effort in trying to stop Luffy. I mean, Aokiji was even present, yet he didn't lift a finger against Luffy himself (especially when he could have just frozen the water to stop Sunny in its tracks!). I believe that, in the end, Garp was just going easy on his grandson..... |
|
2009-01-30, 00:20 | Link #59 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2005
|
Quote:
As for Aokiji... Again, much like Garp, unless Aokiji gets direct orders, whether or not he acts is up to him... There is no indication that aokiji was keeping in contact with HQ, and he very likely has been on water 7 the whole time till Garp showed up and he decided to hitch a ride... Aokiji was not ordered to attack and thus decided he wanted to just lay back and not interfer |
|
|
|