2009-07-09, 15:12 | Link #2304 |
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i have two new weapon concepts
1)MSV shielding based close range weapons it basiclly takes the elements that were found in the lancelot's leg shields and the percival's energy drill and takes them to a more basic level for example, a KMF that has arm mounted MSV shielding like the lancelot, but the shields can also form into a different shape one that looks like a blaze lumius spike which allows a KMF to litteraly use its punches as weapons and give them luminus gloves (stronger penetraion, without risk of damage to limb) or a hand held shield like the percival's only instead of a rocket launcher, it has a blaze luminus generator that forms a spike around the shield (turning it into a shield AND a lance at the same time 2)gefun emitter a farther development of the gefun disturber, it basiclly mounts onto the back of a KMF in the same way that the gefun net does only instead of little missiles, it simply starts emitting the EMP directly from the KMF itself to about 300 meter radius around it it makes the machine and anything in the 300 meter radius around it invisible to radar or any other form of electronic detection but because the machine iteslf is emitting this pulse, it also suffers from its effect, reducing the preformence of the KMF considerably when the emitter is turned on
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2009-07-09, 17:07 | Link #2306 |
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I find it amusing that everyone here is trying to find ways to make Knightmare Frames even more ridiculously OTT Super Robots, while none of the KMFs in my fic can even fly, except for Lancelot's experimental float unit.
In the story it was deemed awesome but impractical due to its enormous energy drain, seriously limiting the active time of the mech. So the new version of Suzaku's mech has mounting points for it for specialized missions, but otherwise no KMFs fly. I've scaled back melee fighting as well... KMFs acting more like walking and skating upright tanks than enormous superpowered metal people. ^^; Cause you know, seriously, what are aerospace fighters for if mechs can fly? It's ludicrous. Edit: Oh yeah and both the Avalon and the Ikaruga are ships (the floating-on-water kind) instead of giant atmospheric flying thingy. Ikaruga is still also a submarine too though. Damocles stops being a floating fortress the size of an Imperial Star Destroyer and instead becomes an unmanned Kill Sat that launches FLEIAs. So yeah I'm just taking R2, removing the worst wallbangers and turning the Real Robot roots of the show back up to eleven.
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2009-07-09, 17:18 | Link #2308 | |
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2009-07-09, 17:24 | Link #2309 |
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In a Real Robot world like Code Geass (at least, in season one anyway), tank-buster planes like an A-10 could cause serious damage to Knightmares. They'd likely be just as effective against KMFs as they are against regular tanks.
Really this is kind of the reason why humongous mecha aren't too realistic, even in the Real Robot aspect. Gundam usually tries to handwave the absence of combat ranges in the hundreds of miles by talking about Minovsky particles or GN particles or whatever magical radar-jamming mecha dust they happen to use. The best way to keep the giant robots not feeling like just an excuse to use giant robots, and make it fit naturally into the story, is limit their abilities to basically just faster, weaker and more mobile tanks. Super Prototypes notwithstanding, of course.
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2009-07-09, 17:25 | Link #2310 | |
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2009-07-09, 17:54 | Link #2313 | |
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I just pointed out, that Guren Seiten > all. Lancelot Albion included, even if it is not a major difference. |
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2009-07-09, 18:13 | Link #2314 | |
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Guren or Lancelot, having forced the Gawain into a do-or-die melee scrap, would have tore the Gawain apart with ease. Even with the inferior production model Gloucester, Cornelia was kicking his ass. I suppose Lelouch learned from the encounter with Cornelia when he had Shinkirou commissioned. ^^;
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2009-07-16, 13:18 | Link #2316 |
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Don't know if this came up already but, does anyone knows how Tristan's Harken/beam cannon works?
Also, what's up with Galahad Excalibur? I know people said that its a MVS, but MVS work under a concept similar to high-frequency vibration swords, and I don't think this kind of weapon is capable of creating a swirl of light nor deflecting a high powered particle beam. Finally, we know about the 7th and 9th, but what happened with the 8th Generation of Knightmare Frames? |
2009-07-16, 13:23 | Link #2317 | |
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2009-07-16, 13:37 | Link #2318 | |
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Care to take this seriously, please? I meant to ask under which precepts does the Tristan's Harkens work? Like I heard rumors that it had MVS technology as inbuilt features and by combining the Harkens, it could create and fire plasma. Does anyone confirm this? Inbuilt shielding technology does not explain half of the things that I saw Excalibur doing. Finally, ALL of them? That's hard to buy. Maybe if you have everything from Akatsuki and on, but there is no way that the original Guren and Gekka are anything beyond 7th Generation (actually, I wouldn't be surprised if they turned out to be one of the few successes of the 6th Generation). |
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2009-07-16, 13:45 | Link #2319 | |
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What defines the Eighth Generation of Knightmare Frames, however, is the application of improved Float Systems, the ones that don't drain absurd amounts of energy when they're used. All of the KoR KMFs are Eighth Gen, and the Shinkirou, Guren Kakyoshiki, Akatsuki series, and Gareth are also likely Eighth Generation KMFs. The Ninth Generation, as we know, is the Lancelot Albion and Guren SEITEN, which use the Energy Wings.
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