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-Breakthrough- · 2011-01-31, 05:05

Didn't know Tokyo MX's station had ties with Tokyo's assembly/legislation. Looking through the anime that the station airs at ANN right now. FREEZING could be in deep shit, so with Panty and Stocking if Gainax wants season 2 broadcasted in the same channel. This doesn't sound good. The new policy on job applications cited on that article makes no sense either. "If you're an extreme otaku we cant hire you." Urgh.

Shinji103 · 2011-01-31, 05:43

........okay now I'm back to this question again: will this bill really not affect fanservice? Because if the bill didn't target fanservice such as panty shots or even nudity, then why does the article posted by saya_leviathan specifically talk about mentioning "late-night anime that have panty shots and other kinds of risque depictions"? If the bill doesn't target fanservice, then why is there a problem with panty shots?

-Breakthrough- · 2011-01-31, 06:36

Well, Vexx said this Bill's too vague, and apparently out of the tv stations in Tokyo that broadcast anime, Tokyo MX seems to have the largest ties to Tokyo's government. Everything I said about "not targetting fanservice" was taken from Kanemitsu's blog. But then again even he himself says its way too vague to pin point what this Bill's targetting. My bad on that part.

This is going to be even rockier than I thought. So much for me trying to keep some level-headed optimism on this.

Lord of Fire · 2011-01-31, 06:55

First of, Tokyo MX rarely broadcasts 'risque' series unedited, especially not if they're really explicit. The only downfall is that this is a public channel and AT-X (where you'll usually find these shows uncensored) is not.

However, Tokyo MX is not the only TV station that show anime in Tokyo, so I wouldn't call it a huge loss as of yet.

saya_leviathan · 2011-01-31, 07:31

Even though Tokyo MX would regulate the anime shows, there are still other nearby local channels like TV Kanagawa, TV Saitama and Chiba TV. So, yes, you can still watch Freezing.

But I find the new policy on choosing of their applicants discriminating.

Guardian Enzo · 2011-01-31, 10:28

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Originally Posted by saya_leviathan

Even though Tokyo MX would regulate the anime shows, there are still other nearby local channels like TV Kanagawa, TV Saitama and Chiba TV. So, yes, you can still watch Freezing.

But I find the new policy on choosing of their applicants discriminating.

Here's the relevant question. If it was known in advance that Tokyo MX wouldn't broadcast a show like Freezing, which they bother to produce it in the first place?

Yui Is My Wife · 2011-01-31, 10:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guardian Enzo

Here's the relevant question. If it was known in advance that Tokyo MX wouldn't broadcast a show like Freezing, which they bother to produce it in the first place?

Hmm, aren't the shows made by an animation studio then sold to multiple stations to broadcast?

bayoab · 2011-01-31, 11:45

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Originally Posted by Yui Is My Wife

Hmm, aren't the shows made by an animation studio then sold to multiple stations to broadcast?

No. Either the studio is on the production committee and obtains the slot or the production committee buys a time slot on a major station group before production begins. Buying a slot on TV Tokyo gets you a slot on a TV Osaka, etc. Or you can buy a slot on a group of UHF stations. (Tokyo MX is one primary stations of this group). There are two or three shows which have failed to get a slot before production started and they have all flopped horribly.

bhl88 · 2011-01-31, 13:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by saya_leviathan

News: Magazine: Tokyo MX TV Affected by Youth Ordinance Bill

They can probably use others then: like Nakano Broadway, Oosu or Satte, Saitama.

Luk_008 · 2011-01-31, 13:41

Looking at MyAnimeList, I found this update:

Updated on February 1st
Tokyo MX denied the article of Weekly Gendai and stated that "We don't judge the job applicants by their liking for anime. Please apply to our company without hesitation."

Source: Tokyo MX official blog

bhl88 · 2011-01-31, 13:45

Hopefully they are not lying about that.

FatPianoBoy · 2011-01-31, 20:09

Quote:

the job application sheet may have the question, "If you were to take a foreign friend sightseeing in Japan, where would you take him or her? If the student were to write "Akihabara," the station might ask him or her to leave the application process.

I smell BS. Akihabara is historically and primarily a technology/electronics hub. It's only been a major anime/manga center for a little over a decade.

MisaoFan · 2011-02-01, 01:32

What is OYAPS ? It's CERO ?

antigone · 2011-02-01, 05:12

i wholeheartedly support the passing of this bill.

you may deny it now, but Ishihara might be the messiah the anime/manga medium is looking for!

-Breakthrough- · 2011-02-01, 06:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by antigone

i wholeheartedly support the passing of this bill.

you may deny it now, but Ishihara might be the messiah the anime/manga medium is looking for!

With the passing of this Bill, it could be even more difficult for creators to just create what they want without worrying about some thought-control law. If this Bill isn't met with any form of opposition, what made anime so unique will dissapear in years, all because creators wont be able to explore/create/write on themes that would give storytelling a huge spice into it.

FlavorOfLife · 2011-02-01, 07:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by FatPianoBoy

I smell BS. Akihabara is historically and primarily a technology/electronics hub. It's only been a major anime/manga center for a little over a decade.

Yeah but sight seeing in an electronics hub? Shopping in an electronics hub yes. Now sightseeing cosplayers, maid cafes and such, that would make sense

Luk_008 · 2011-02-01, 11:56

Update from MyAnimeList:

News topic suspended!
Tokyo MX announced in the official twitter that the article of Weekly Gendai magazine is a fabrication. They have been making a strong protest against the magazine. Tokyo MX stated that they don't change their programming policy to regard anime as important and will keep on being a friendly broadcasting company to anime fans.

-Breakthrough- · 2011-02-01, 12:26

Whew...Glad it tuned out to be a hoax.

MisaoFan · 2011-02-01, 14:24

Anime like Seikon no Qwaser was unwatchable because of heavy censorship and people want BD/DVD sales but there's already exists an uncensored version that was premiered before then.

GDB · 2011-02-01, 15:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by MisaoFan

Anime like Seikon no Qwaser was unwatchable because of heavy censorship and people want BD/DVD sales but there's already exists an uncensored version that was premiered before then.

In 360p, on the web. While better than the butchered censored version, it was only barely watchable with how grainy it was.

2011-01-31, 05:05	Link #661
-Breakthrough- ... Join Date: Aug 2006	Didn't know Tokyo MX's station had ties with Tokyo's assembly/legislation. Looking through the anime that the station airs at ANN right now. FREEZING could be in deep shit, so with Panty and Stocking if Gainax wants season 2 broadcasted in the same channel. This doesn't sound good. The new policy on job applications cited on that article makes no sense either. "If you're an extreme otaku we cant hire you." Urgh. Last edited by -Breakthrough-; 2011-01-31 at 05:38.

2011-01-31, 05:43	Link #662
Shinji103 Crazy Devout Fanboy Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: 1st Ra Cailum-class battleship Ra Cailum, port-side officer's bunks	........okay now I'm back to this question again: will this bill really not affect fanservice? Because if the bill didn't target fanservice such as panty shots or even nudity, then why does the article posted by saya_leviathan specifically talk about mentioning "late-night anime that have panty shots and other kinds of risque depictions"? If the bill doesn't target fanservice, then why is there a problem with panty shots? __________________

2011-01-31, 06:55	Link #664
Lord of Fire The Voice of Reason Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: The Netherlands Age: 47	First of, Tokyo MX rarely broadcasts 'risque' series unedited, especially not if they're really explicit. The only downfall is that this is a public channel and AT-X (where you'll usually find these shows uncensored) is not. However, Tokyo MX is not the only TV station that show anime in Tokyo, so I wouldn't call it a huge loss as of yet. __________________

2011-01-31, 13:41	Link #670
Luk_008 Lelouch commands you! Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Brazil	Looking at MyAnimeList, I found this update: Updated on February 1st Tokyo MX denied the article of Weekly Gendai and stated that "We don't judge the job applicants by their liking for anime. Please apply to our company without hesitation." Source: Tokyo MX official blog __________________ [撃っていいのは撃たれる覚悟のあるヤツだけだ] by Lelouch vi Britannia

2011-01-31, 13:45	Link #671
bhl88 Otaku Apprentice Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: The Unseen Horizon	Hopefully they are not lying about that. __________________ OS-tan Collections (temporary): https://discord.gg/Hv2rBs3

2011-01-31, 06:36	Link #663
-Breakthrough- ... Join Date: Aug 2006	Well, Vexx said this Bill's too vague, and apparently out of the tv stations in Tokyo that broadcast anime, Tokyo MX seems to have the largest ties to Tokyo's government. Everything I said about "not targetting fanservice" was taken from Kanemitsu's blog. But then again even he himself says its way too vague to pin point what this Bill's targetting. My bad on that part. This is going to be even rockier than I thought. So much for me trying to keep some level-headed optimism on this.

2011-01-31, 07:31	Link #665
saya_leviathan Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009	Even though Tokyo MX would regulate the anime shows, there are still other nearby local channels like TV Kanagawa, TV Saitama and Chiba TV. So, yes, you can still watch Freezing. But I find the new policy on choosing of their applicants discriminating.

2011-02-01, 05:12	Link #674
antigone Member Join Date: Jan 2011	i wholeheartedly support the passing of this bill. you may deny it now, but Ishihara might be the messiah the anime/manga medium is looking for!

2011-02-01, 11:56	Link #677
Luk_008 Lelouch commands you! Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Brazil	Update from MyAnimeList: News topic suspended! Tokyo MX announced in the official twitter that the article of Weekly Gendai magazine is a fabrication. They have been making a strong protest against the magazine. Tokyo MX stated that they don't change their programming policy to regard anime as important and will keep on being a friendly broadcasting company to anime fans. __________________ [撃っていいのは撃たれる覚悟のあるヤツだけだ] by Lelouch vi Britannia

2011-02-01, 12:26	Link #678
-Breakthrough- ... Join Date: Aug 2006	Whew...Glad it tuned out to be a hoax. Last edited by -Breakthrough-; 2011-02-01 at 13:02.