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also, I think he's a candidate for being the next Guild Master of Fairy Tail but, yeah... I still can't see Laxus ever beating Jura this time around. Maybe in another timeskip or so
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2013-02-23, 12:28 | Link #10662 |
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Not to mention that, technically, Earth has been strong against lightning.
Also, we know Jura is now #5. We know the top 4 aren't human. But what about 6 thru 10? We know Makarov is supposed to be one (unless he lost his spot with the time skip). So if Jura is defeated here, we'll have less of an impression of 6 thru 10, which you know they are going to run into sooner or later. Probably before 1 thru 4. Edit: Another possibility occurred to me.... Jura is pwning Laxus mostly (although Laxus still gets in a hit or two here and there), but Laxus keeps getting up after getting smacked down, saying over and over again how he won't let Fairy Tail down now. Jura, impressed with this, decides that, while he can technically defeat Laxus, he can't beat the man's soul and drive. And perhaps because of that, and respect, he decides to voluntarily surrender. Or perhaps call it a draw. That way, Laxus doesn't lose, and neither does Jura, and it takes them both out of the game. And it keeps Jura as a respectable member of the Wizard Saints. |
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I'll make my own prediction, and bet you anything that after the next chapter, we'll have at least one or two posts that go, "Man, Fairy Tail is sucking so much. It's so predictable." Even though no one outright stated predictions before the chapter! The only predictions we have, is that Laxus will win or tie. Considering the possible outcomes are win, lose, or tie, they've essentially hedged their bets by giving themselves a 67% chance. Hell, I'd be tempted to make bets like that, too! A true prediction would say "I predict he is going to win." That is a 33% chance, based on possible outcomes, and is actually a gutsy prediction. And that just covers the bare bones win/loss aspect of one single fight; hardly grounds for calling the entire story predictable! Like I said before. Wake me when someone has a bit more of a detailed prediction. If FT is so predictable, then it should be child's play to predict how the plot is going to play out. TL;DR: It's whining, and it's non-constructive at best, and annoying at worst. |
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2013-02-23, 14:26 | Link #10667 |
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Natsu said there was a 'trick' to eating the God Slayer magic, which is pretty much based off the same concept as the Dragon Slayer magic. It's pretty much the same as bypassing the protection on a CD/DVD. Laxus lifted the 'protection' off of his magic, allowing Natsu to copy it in a more permament fashion, while Gajeel just straight ripped it off of Rouge/Raios. Seems that to be eaten, it must 1) have their base element within it or 2) be of a similiar magic type.
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2013-02-23, 16:31 | Link #10670 |
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Not too keen on the idea of Jura curbstomping Laxus. First, if Jura beats Laxus easily then it means he probably won the tournament, since noone else should be a challenge. Not very likely imo.
This is just speculation, but if Laxus is comparable to Jellal (as Mystogan's counterpart), then he should be a pretty good match for Jura. As I recall, Jellal was about to give Jura a very bad day if Ultear hadn't interfered. I wouldn't sell Laxus short on his own merits either, considering he even fought Hades alone. I'm wondering if Sting might try to land a cheap shot on Jura for the 5 points, and whether Laxus could end up learning Sting's light DS magic. I'd rather see Laxus win tbh. |
2013-02-23, 19:35 | Link #10671 |
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^If Laxus gives Jura a good beating, he will be weakened down so he won't be much of a match anymore.
Besides I personally would find it refreshing to see someone else dominating apart from FT at least once. Laxus didn't have second origin open in him as others so his power level should be weaker than Jellal's now. Jura is 4th great Saint now what means Jellal is below him in power what puts Laxus even lower. I expect Laxus to give him a hard time but winning is too much. But then again how easy most of FT wins were I will be more surprised if Laxus does lose.
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2013-02-23, 19:51 | Link #10672 | |
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I'd be surprised too if Laxus lost since it'd pretty much guarantee they'd lose the fighting tourment and it's pretty rare for the main castes group to lose those. |
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2013-02-23, 20:07 | Link #10673 | |
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It's clear that there equals. Only difference here, was that jellal had 7 years to train and so did Jura. Before TS, Jura was ranked the weakest saint. In Jura vs Jellal, it's was seen that they were equals, up until Jellal had to pull his trump card, 'Star Destruction'. Unfortunately, we never saw the result, but Jura's facial expression was an indication he was doomed to lose. Right now, the Jura fight can go either way. Laxus still hasn't shown his 'Ultimate DS Art'. Also, Its disappointing that Makarov is ranked less than Jura now. In the new FT movie, all the guild masters and counsel members were shown. Maybe, a few saints were present too? |
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2013-02-23, 20:18 | Link #10674 |
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Well that's the main thing, Jura and Jellal are seven years ahead of Laxus who didn't even have second origin open in him.
And as I said, if Laxus gives Jura hard time, Jura won't be able to put much of a fight so others can easily take him down. Otherwise with such thinking FT is doomed anyway since there is still fresh Sting while everyone else are worn out.
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2013-02-23, 20:31 | Link #10675 |
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The wizard saints aren't necessarily the 10 strongest in the world. Gildartz wasn't one pre-timeskip yet both Jura and Jose Porla were.
Also, iirc Jellal wasn't a match for Jura at the start of their fight because he was imitating Mystogan's magic. When he started using his own magic Jura was in trouble. I think Jellal is probably stronger than Jura. I think the difference in power due to the timeskip is practically nullified at this point. It was only important immediately after the main cast returned and probably wont come into play again. Even Makarov wont be affected by the timeskip since he was already at his full power before it happened. Not bothered with Jura ranking higher than Makarov. If Jura wrestles Acknologia with bare hands I'll be impressed |
2013-02-24, 00:54 | Link #10676 |
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Well, it's unclear whether Laxus had his second origin unlocked or not. Most who trained aside from Team Natsu, its unknown what they gained, during those 3 months of training. If Laxus is near Gildartz level, as it's believed (Hades remark), one would think he would of long had it. Still, as Gildartz mentioned to natsu in the Tenrou arc, there still something Natsu needs to gain before he reaches the top of the magical world. Only weird thing, is that Erza clearly didn't have it and she's a FT S class. Right now, I see it as Lightning vs Earth. Earth alone nullify's lightning right? Meaning, Laxus needs to go melee entirely to decimate him or catch Jura offguard to use a nuke. Unless it turns out Jura is using stone armor, like in Gaara's case in naruto. Spoiler for Less Text:
The title of saint is just an honorific in the world of Fiore. Something just to show respect, in terms of the wielders power or accomplishments. Anyone with S class level should easily have the title, given the right commendations. e.g. Erza when she 'died'. I think your right on the TS. It was solely meant to advance everyone else, aside from FT - from their previous tiers to higher. At this point in time, I'm most curious about Ultears prominence. Aside from the whole gray fiasco, it's clear she's OP, given her skill set! You have a good point regarding Makarov!Atm, I feel Jura is too hyped. I just wish it ends in a draw. If Laxus ends up winning, it'll ruin every single power level scale to date. Making Laxus > than even Gildartz. |
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2013-02-24, 10:59 | Link #10679 | |
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- lumien story - the 4 top saint wizards - more lore about acnologia past - a new barlam alliance - tartaros being the top in the alliance - the remain of the grimoire heart - new darkguilds -aged all others guild members to give then more relevance specially romeu he does the time skip because: - oracion six defeated - gromoire heart defeated - already showed acnologia - already showed zeref the missins ones things: - natsu and gajeel past - year 777 - if lucy mother have connection with the 777 - where the dragons i think who mashima does the time skip because he started to run out of "content"(ak enemies, arc plots and dont want ending too soon the manga), a way to extend the manga give more freshing content like he is showing on this arc, he showed many news future sub plots. |
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2013-02-24, 16:16 | Link #10680 | |
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Really, the point of the timeskip was not to reduce the power of all the characters so that they'd suddenly have to be crawling back up the power tiers. As ellessarr said, it was to refresh the content. Seven years have passed, things have changed, new issues have cropped up, new enemies and rivals have appeared, etc. |
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