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Kokukirin · 2013-12-06, 23:31

Expectation for England is at all time low. But people overrate Uruguay too much. Forlan is no longer the player he once was. Other than Suarez and Cavani, their players are far from impressive and as a team they aren't better than England. Italy is better than the other 3 teams but not by a long distance. With Hodgson's ultra conservative tactics, England may well secure a draw against Italy like the last Euro. I still give England a slightly better chance to advance over Uruguay.

USA though, is done. Germany and Portugal are far better.

ChampDream · 2013-12-06, 23:48

^ Uruguay doesn't need to be impressive to advance next round and if we look at how they are today Uruguay is more dangerous then England, at least that my opinion, also you need to remember the world is in South America which give the majority of South America teams a big plus (specially Brazil) and remember Uruguay is really close to Brazil, so don't underestimated Uruguay.

germanturkey · 2013-12-07, 12:42

US has a chance to beat Portugal. definitely an outside chance, but our athleticism is still the best and our technique has only gotten better.

anyways, everyone but 'pool has dropped point today. hopefully sunderland can beat spuds.

Nerroth · 2013-12-07, 23:22

I was going to not give away the winner of this year's MLS Cup final, and let people see the highlights for themselves... but it seems that the league's YouTube channel had other ideas.

germanturkey · 2013-12-08, 00:01

heh, doesn't seem like SKC deserved it, but i didn't watch the game.

Terrestrial Dream · 2013-12-08, 04:09

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Wolrd Cup group

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KiraYamatoFan · 2013-12-08, 04:20

If the artist who drew this thinks that Japan is not one of the potential top dogs in Group C, something's not right.

Meanwhile, Switzerland is not to be underestimated in Group E. They can give quite a challenge and even top the group.

germanturkey · 2013-12-08, 12:20

the artist also thinks Mexico is good.

Bri · 2013-12-08, 14:16

Russia as group H favorite instead of Belgium is also quite odd.

Kokukirin · 2013-12-08, 15:37

The artist has no idea about football.

Haak · 2013-12-08, 15:46

Does anyone else know why the three teams in Group D are flags/rectangles instead of balls? I get that it's probably a joke at their expense but I don't understand what the joke is.

Bri · 2013-12-08, 16:42

I'd guess England, Italy and Uruguay are all former world champions so Costa Rica is the odd one out?

Blaat · 2013-12-08, 17:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Haak

Does anyone else know why the three teams in Group D are flags/rectangles instead of balls? I get that it's probably a joke at their expense but I don't understand what the joke is.

The best way to describe it is that Rectangle in polandballs denotes imperial ambition with an evil streak to it.

risingstar3110 · 2013-12-11, 17:48

What's an end to Group F of Champion League. This kinda set up for Arsenal or Dortmund to win the CL by May, so people can make a dramatic documentary movie about it.....

Kudos to Napoli. Hope they win Europa League as they probably the most deserved out of the bunch

Irenicus · 2013-12-11, 21:36

That was some of the most uncomfortable minutes of football I have ever witnessed. At one point ALL THREE TEAMS were at risk of losing their spot! In the end it was Napoli, and by the skin of their teeth.

Group of Death indeed. And the likes of Man U and Chelsea got off easy...

Of course, to be fair, this happens because somehow Arsenal collectively decided they were just not going to try (and Marseille decided they were going to fight tooth and nail to frustrate mighty Dortmund, in the midst of an injury crisis to match Arsenal's own). Although, whatever Rafa said to Insigne before he sent him in, it worked and Insigne's entrance changed the pace of the game completely from what was a comfortable Arsenal defense to all-out Napoli attack.

But yes, your idea of an Arsenal (and...fine...Dortmund) Champions League victory coming from this is most welcome.

Muses of Football, are you listening?

Azuma Denton · 2013-12-12, 00:28

Frustrated about yesterday match.
If Wenger decided to play safe and hold on to tie, why didnt he rest Giroud and play Walcott instead.

Now let's see what monster await us in the next phase of CL? I personally wanna avoid PSG, Bayern and Real Madrid.

Nerroth · 2013-12-13, 20:59

Until today, the four slots assigned to the United States Soccer Federation for play in the CONCACAF Champions League were awarded to the winners and runners-up of MLS Cup, the Supporters' Shield winner, and the team which claimed the U.S. Open Cup (a domestic cup competition also open to lower-division American teams).

Earlier this year, MLS and USSF agreed to propose a rule change which would take away the slot assigned to the MLS Cup runner-up, and give it to the team which topped the opposing conference to the Supporters' Shield winner. This change has been approved by CONCACAF, which means that the Portland Timbers (as the best-finishing team in the Western Conference, which became the "opposing" conference when the East-leading New York Red Bulls won the Supporters' Shield) now hold the 2014-15 CCL slot which would have gone to Real Salt Lake (as MLS Cup finalists) hitherto.

To the credit of the RSL organization (who had known about the plan when it was first drawn up earlier in the year), they aren't using the change as an excuse for how their season went. I'm sure that their preferred response will be on the pitch in 2014, and I don't doubt they'll be in serious contention for the next set of USSF berths.

In future seasons, if there is any duplication in the three MLS-based slots (say, if an American team tops the opposing conference and goes on to win MLS Cup, or if a Canadian team finishes in any of those slots), the next-highest finishing American team (regardless of conference) will pick up the duplicated berth.

Note that Canada only has one CCL berth, which is awarded to the winner of the Canadian Championship (which is Canada's equivalent to the U.S. Open Cup). Canadian MLS teams cannot qualify through league play.

risingstar3110 · 2013-12-13, 23:19

Just watched a recent cap of U17 US humiliated England with 5-1 win. Not sure if it was one-off, US showing its strength or simply England has fallen on their own sport.... But i do enjoy that

I always hope US national team do well (and really glad whenever they do) as i think that would raise interests from American population to football and their own MLS league (which already have the potential form its own financial power). European football has been too corrupting in my book, and need a massive mind shift but can't do so due to their conservative stand. With US being more open mind, more open to new technology (+ their lobby power), you guys are the only hope for introducing more technology into the game so we can lessen the role of those referee and their dubious calls, making the game cleaner and more enjoyable for me.

I'm not targeting any specific team here, but there was one time when i watched MU played versus one of the lower league team. It was a cup game , so i think MU only put on their second string. But heck they were totally dominated by that lower league team, on every front. I was enjoying that match up to then, seeing the underdog up their game and fight on open against the 1st league champion. And what happened next disgusted me. MU subbed in Nani, who draws foul and then go down at every opportunity he could around opponent's box. Totally acceptable in the rule box, of course, but MU thank to that get goals back through a set piece and a soft penalty. So the champion win in the end, but the game since that turning point was butchered by whistles every few minutes and you do not see any real open play since then. Worst, Nani got MOM as he "cleverly exploited opponent defense inexperience and turned the match around with his skill"

That's when i realised that this system have to go. No wonder top teams can stay up top for so long, as they always can win by pressing and exploiting the rulebook to its limit. While lesser team, those who dared to dream, or innovate themselves to punch above their belly, will most likely fail if they can't do the same

risingstar3110 · 2013-12-14, 09:46

Nothing new to see, City is still imba at home as usual....

Even when against group leader Arsenal

Azuma Denton · 2013-12-14, 09:57

Arsenal left side was being barrage by City player. Monreal was on his lowest form today. Lost himself against Zabaleta and Silva on many occasion.

And why the hell Wenger took out Flamini instead of Giroud. He waste 3 chances on 5 minutes interval. Ah damn damn damn.

Double thumbs up to Yaya Toure. He is pratically man of the match for today's game.
On another positive side, looks like Arsenal can trust the CF position to Walcott once again. #benchGiroud

2013-12-06, 23:48	Link #4702
ChampDream Alive Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: in my really nice house	^ Uruguay doesn't need to be impressive to advance next round and if we look at how they are today Uruguay is more dangerous then England, at least that my opinion, also you need to remember the world is in South America which give the majority of South America teams a big plus (specially Brazil) and remember Uruguay is really close to Brazil, so don't underestimated Uruguay. __________________

2013-12-07, 12:42	Link #4703
germanturkey Udon-YAAAAAAAA Join Date: Jan 2008 Age: 35	US has a chance to beat Portugal. definitely an outside chance, but our athleticism is still the best and our technique has only gotten better. anyways, everyone but 'pool has dropped point today. hopefully sunderland can beat spuds. __________________ Aria is the best series EVER. Rewatch Origination with me. Blessed are those who listen to headphones, for they listen to the sound of heaven.

2013-12-07, 23:22	Link #4704
Nerroth NePoi! Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Ontario, Canada Age: 43	I was going to not give away the winner of this year's MLS Cup final, and let people see the highlights for themselves... but it seems that the league's YouTube channel had other ideas. <p>No iframe support, please <a href="http://youtu.be/0SJq24zFwoQ">watch on YouTube</a>.</p> __________________ Last edited by Nerroth; 2013-12-07 at 23:40.

2013-12-08, 00:01	Link #4705
germanturkey Udon-YAAAAAAAA Join Date: Jan 2008 Age: 35	heh, doesn't seem like SKC deserved it, but i didn't watch the game. __________________ Aria is the best series EVER. Rewatch Origination with me. Blessed are those who listen to headphones, for they listen to the sound of heaven.

2013-12-08, 04:09	Link #4706
Terrestrial Dream 勇者 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Tesla Leicht Institute Age: 34	Images Wolrd Cup group Sorry; dynamic content not loaded. Reload? __________________

2013-12-06, 23:31	Link #4701
Kokukirin Shadow of Effilisi Join Date: Oct 2011	Expectation for England is at all time low. But people overrate Uruguay too much. Forlan is no longer the player he once was. Other than Suarez and Cavani, their players are far from impressive and as a team they aren't better than England. Italy is better than the other 3 teams but not by a long distance. With Hodgson's ultra conservative tactics, England may well secure a draw against Italy like the last Euro. I still give England a slightly better chance to advance over Uruguay. USA though, is done. Germany and Portugal are far better.

2013-12-08, 04:20	Link #4707
KiraYamatoFan Banned Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Montreal, QC, Canada Age: 40	If the artist who drew this thinks that Japan is not one of the potential top dogs in Group C, something's not right. Meanwhile, Switzerland is not to be underestimated in Group E. They can give quite a challenge and even top the group.

2013-12-08, 12:20	Link #4708
germanturkey Udon-YAAAAAAAA Join Date: Jan 2008 Age: 35	the artist also thinks Mexico is good. __________________ Aria is the best series EVER. Rewatch Origination with me. Blessed are those who listen to headphones, for they listen to the sound of heaven.

2013-12-08, 14:16	Link #4709
Bri Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009	Russia as group H favorite instead of Belgium is also quite odd.

2013-12-08, 15:37	Link #4710
Kokukirin Shadow of Effilisi Join Date: Oct 2011	The artist has no idea about football.

2013-12-08, 15:46	Link #4711
Haak Me, An Intellectual Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: UK Age: 33	Does anyone else know why the three teams in Group D are flags/rectangles instead of balls? I get that it's probably a joke at their expense but I don't understand what the joke is. __________________ MAL \| AnimeSuki Choice Awards 2020 Winners

2013-12-08, 16:42	Link #4712
Bri Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009	I'd guess England, Italy and Uruguay are all former world champions so Costa Rica is the odd one out?

2013-12-11, 17:48	Link #4714
risingstar3110 ✘˵╹◡╹˶✘ Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Australia	What's an end to Group F of Champion League. This kinda set up for Arsenal or Dortmund to win the CL by May, so people can make a dramatic documentary movie about it..... Kudos to Napoli. Hope they win Europa League as they probably the most deserved out of the bunch __________________

2013-12-11, 21:36	Link #4715
Irenicus Le fou, c'est moi Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Las Vegas, NV, USA Age: 34	That was some of the most uncomfortable minutes of football I have ever witnessed. At one point ALL THREE TEAMS were at risk of losing their spot! In the end it was Napoli, and by the skin of their teeth. Group of Death indeed. And the likes of Man U and Chelsea got off easy... Of course, to be fair, this happens because somehow Arsenal collectively decided they were just not going to try (and Marseille decided they were going to fight tooth and nail to frustrate mighty Dortmund, in the midst of an injury crisis to match Arsenal's own). Although, whatever Rafa said to Insigne before he sent him in, it worked and Insigne's entrance changed the pace of the game completely from what was a comfortable Arsenal defense to all-out Napoli attack. But yes, your idea of an Arsenal (and...fine...Dortmund) Champions League victory coming from this is most welcome. Muses of Football, are you listening?

2013-12-12, 00:28	Link #4716
Azuma Denton ~AD~ Join Date: Oct 2006	Frustrated about yesterday match. If Wenger decided to play safe and hold on to tie, why didnt he rest Giroud and play Walcott instead. Now let's see what monster await us in the next phase of CL? I personally wanna avoid PSG, Bayern and Real Madrid.

2013-12-13, 20:59	Link #4717
Nerroth NePoi! Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Ontario, Canada Age: 43	Until today, the four slots assigned to the United States Soccer Federation for play in the CONCACAF Champions League were awarded to the winners and runners-up of MLS Cup, the Supporters' Shield winner, and the team which claimed the U.S. Open Cup (a domestic cup competition also open to lower-division American teams). Earlier this year, MLS and USSF agreed to propose a rule change which would take away the slot assigned to the MLS Cup runner-up, and give it to the team which topped the opposing conference to the Supporters' Shield winner. This change has been approved by CONCACAF, which means that the Portland Timbers (as the best-finishing team in the Western Conference, which became the "opposing" conference when the East-leading New York Red Bulls won the Supporters' Shield) now hold the 2014-15 CCL slot which would have gone to Real Salt Lake (as MLS Cup finalists) hitherto. To the credit of the RSL organization (who had known about the plan when it was first drawn up earlier in the year), they aren't using the change as an excuse for how their season went. I'm sure that their preferred response will be on the pitch in 2014, and I don't doubt they'll be in serious contention for the next set of USSF berths. In future seasons, if there is any duplication in the three MLS-based slots (say, if an American team tops the opposing conference and goes on to win MLS Cup, or if a Canadian team finishes in any of those slots), the next-highest finishing American team (regardless of conference) will pick up the duplicated berth. Note that Canada only has one CCL berth, which is awarded to the winner of the Canadian Championship (which is Canada's equivalent to the U.S. Open Cup). Canadian MLS teams cannot qualify through league play. __________________ Last edited by Nerroth; 2013-12-13 at 21:32.

2013-12-13, 23:19	Link #4718
risingstar3110 ✘˵╹◡╹˶✘ Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Australia	Just watched a recent cap of U17 US humiliated England with 5-1 win. Not sure if it was one-off, US showing its strength or simply England has fallen on their own sport.... But i do enjoy that I always hope US national team do well (and really glad whenever they do) as i think that would raise interests from American population to football and their own MLS league (which already have the potential form its own financial power). European football has been too corrupting in my book, and need a massive mind shift but can't do so due to their conservative stand. With US being more open mind, more open to new technology (+ their lobby power), you guys are the only hope for introducing more technology into the game so we can lessen the role of those referee and their dubious calls, making the game cleaner and more enjoyable for me. I'm not targeting any specific team here, but there was one time when i watched MU played versus one of the lower league team. It was a cup game , so i think MU only put on their second string. But heck they were totally dominated by that lower league team, on every front. I was enjoying that match up to then, seeing the underdog up their game and fight on open against the 1st league champion. And what happened next disgusted me. MU subbed in Nani, who draws foul and then go down at every opportunity he could around opponent's box. Totally acceptable in the rule box, of course, but MU thank to that get goals back through a set piece and a soft penalty. So the champion win in the end, but the game since that turning point was butchered by whistles every few minutes and you do not see any real open play since then. Worst, Nani got MOM as he "cleverly exploited opponent defense inexperience and turned the match around with his skill" That's when i realised that this system have to go. No wonder top teams can stay up top for so long, as they always can win by pressing and exploiting the rulebook to its limit. While lesser team, those who dared to dream, or innovate themselves to punch above their belly, will most likely fail if they can't do the same __________________ Last edited by risingstar3110; 2013-12-13 at 23:42.

2013-12-14, 09:46	Link #4719
risingstar3110 ✘˵╹◡╹˶✘ Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Australia	Nothing new to see, City is still imba at home as usual.... Even when against group leader Arsenal __________________

2013-12-14, 09:57	Link #4720
Azuma Denton ~AD~ Join Date: Oct 2006	Arsenal left side was being barrage by City player. Monreal was on his lowest form today. Lost himself against Zabaleta and Silva on many occasion. And why the hell Wenger took out Flamini instead of Giroud. He waste 3 chances on 5 minutes interval. Ah damn damn damn. Double thumbs up to Yaya Toure. He is pratically man of the match for today's game. On another positive side, looks like Arsenal can trust the CF position to Walcott once again. #benchGiroud