Valvrave the Liberator - Spoilers & Speculation based on Previews, Website etc.

[DevilHighDxD]

Look like L-elf isn't going to pilot a Valvrave, *sigh...* the Realism ending get my hope up for nothing.....

[Irenesharda]

Originally Posted by ~BC~

I'm kind of curious myself. I'm thinking they'll go with some students couldn't make it to the hangar and instead escaped out into the surrounding areas, either to the ruins of the city or forests. Or maybe they just hide in that room where they operate the machines from.

That is a good theory. I don't think they stayed there since Takumi said that the united armies were coming to the module to finish up the job, and they would just be buying only a few minutes of relief time before getting killed. However, I'm guessing they're probably on one of the ships, yet I'm not sure if all of them survived. Knowing how the story goes, the blond secondary guy probably died.

[LightDragonman]

So to summarize my predictions for the last few episodes:

• Haruto and L-Elf are trying to find a way to either return to the Module or are simply trying to survive on the moon.
• A-Drei and X-Eins defect after the former learns about L-Elf from Saki and the latter finds out about Cain's agenda from H-Neun's recordings.
• Saki is busted out, maybe in exchange for something, and the three head to retrieve Haruto and L-Elf.
• The five then decide to take out Cain, as that is the only way to clear their names and the like.
• The 3GE is born.

I also realized that just like Saki still wants to support Haruto, so too does A-Drei for L-Elf. I bet them both finding out about their location being close to them may spurn them on. Obviously, A-Drei gonna need help to get there through all the Dorssian forces, and Saki needs A-Drei in order to bust on out of there. So yeah, contract time?

[Wandering Soul]

L-Elf didnt really seem like he should be piloting a Valvrave to me. I actually prefer him being the guy that comes up with strategies that make you wonder if he was taught by Lelouch.

[Irenesharda]

Originally Posted by LightDragonman

So to summarize my predictions for the last few episodes:

• Haruto and L-Elf are trying to find a way to either return to the Module or are simply trying to survive on the moon.
• A-Drei and X-Eins defect after the former learns about L-Elf from Saki and the latter finds out about Cain's agenda from H-Neun's recordings.
• Saki is busted out, maybe in exchange for something, and the three head to retrieve Haruto and L-Elf.
• The five then decide to take out Cain, as that is the only way to clear their names and the like.
• The 3GE is born.

I also realized that just like Saki still wants to support Haruto, so too does A-Drei for L-Elf. I bet them both finding out about their location being close to them may spurn them on. Obviously, A-Drei gonna need help to get there through all the Dorssian forces, and Saki needs A-Drei in order to bust on out of there. So yeah, contract time?

I think all those are probably going to happen, though even then, all that would still take more than 3 episodes.

The last two especially would take at least two or three episodes in and of themselves.

Here's a theory that I had posted on the Magius thread that I was thinking about:

I just remembered that they designated the people of Module 77 as "Level 7" dangerous beings.

Could that have to do with the name "Golden 7"? Maybe it's not seven pilots, but they are referring to the fact that all the fighting force are Level 7 beings and they have (will have) golden mechs?

Originally Posted by the one above all

L-Elf didnt really seem like he should be piloting a Valvrave to me. I actually prefer him being the guy that comes up with strategies that make you wonder if he was taught by Lelouch.

I'm still not sure if he's going to have a mech or not. I still think VVV2 will eventually come to our protagonists side.

As to his relation to Lelouch? What did you think the "L" stands for? He's obviously Lelouch 11.0: 10% smarter, 80% stronger.

[Wandering Soul]

If Haruto and the others really do form the 3GE then I can see them being a lot like Celstial being (people that watched Gundam 00 will know what I mean). They barely have any resources or manpower. The writer better stop being cruel and cut them slack already.

[DevilHighDxD]

Well that why they have 200 years to do it, I'll be disappointed if the Empire doesn't a army of Valvrave.

[Irenesharda]

Originally Posted by the one above all

If Haruto and the others really do form the 3GE then I can see them being a lot like Celstial being (people that watched Gundam 00 will know what I mean). They barely have any resources or manpower. The writer better stop being cruel and cut them slack already.

He gave them plenty of slack in season 1. Season 1, all they got was lucky breaks. Now it's time to pay the piper....

[Wandering Soul]

I dont really mind the breaks he gave them in season 1 since that season served more to introduce the characters and set up the plot. It doesnt work that well when you try to kill off characters that we barely have an attachment to. If they take 200 years to build thier army then that means when they are finally ready we wont see Senator Moses again

[finalfury]

A Miss Saki Rukino is running for "I didn't get many breaks in season 1". Please remember the events of episode 10.
Okouchi imo prefers a slow suffering to his main characters and a dash of quick but effective suffering on his side characters. Both implementations of the suffering usually have an effect on the audience.
Until they go numb, but then he brings back the feeling somehow even after all that death and suffering.

[Cloudy]

Originally Posted by the one above all

If Haruto and the others really do form the 3GE then I can see them being a lot like Celstial being (people that watched Gundam 00 will know what I mean). They barely have any resources or manpower. The writer better stop being cruel and cut them slack already.

In a historical context, i foresee them to be like the Ottoman Empire as both of them keep their opponents on the edge for hundreds of years while being hated and feared by nearly everyone. Maybe as Ireneshada said, the Golden 7 could refer to an elite squardon of VVV pilots from M77 like the Jannissarries.

[LightDragonman]

Yeah, the series has a lot to cover in just three episodes. Still, it can be done, provided that they don't waste time on meaningless points.

Also, I've heard speculations that the Saki in the future is actually Akira in Saki's body. Probably due to Satomi showing up and calling Akira the prince's godmother in front of Saki. What say you on that?

[blackwhite67]

Originally Posted by Irenesharda

Oh by the way, do you think the Undertaker kids survived, since of course they were in the midst of that and all? Also, they looked horrified at what they saw last week, are they going to be against the pilots too?

Nice catch, eagle eye! I'm sure that they survived.

[Key Board]

Originally Posted by LightDragonman

Yeah, the series has a lot to cover in just three episodes. Still, it can be done, provided that they don't waste time on meaningless points.

Also, I've heard speculations that the Saki in the future is actually Akira in Saki's body. Probably due to Satomi showing up and calling Akira the prince's godmother in front of Saki. What say you on that?

If Akira and Saki had a Haruto and L-Elf kind of relationship, than yes.

Saki.. doesn't really have any friends.

[Mad Pierrot]

I've never seen so many death flags on a protagonist before. The second ending even showed Haruto's helmet broken floating in space. It might look like symbolism but the flashfowards make it unlikely. He might die fighting Cain either in combat or losing his all of his memories.

However, one weird thing is that little L-11 from the future has Haruto's eyes. The fact that Lise died makes me think the kid is Haruto's son but he has that appearance because of all the runes Haruto absorbed from L-11.

[Irenesharda]

Originally Posted by LightDragonman

Yeah, the series has a lot to cover in just three episodes. Still, it can be done, provided that they don't waste time on meaningless points.

Also, I've heard speculations that the Saki in the future is actually Akira in Saki's body. Probably due to Satomi showing up and calling Akira the prince's godmother in front of Saki. What say you on that?

No, Saki's Saki. If it was Akira in Saki's body, she would be still piloting VVV6 rather than VVV4, since that's the one she's under contract to. The Valvrave will recognize you, even if you're in a jacked body, as proven by Haruto piloting while in L-elf's body. So even if for some reason, Akira was stuck in Saki's body, she could still pilot her own mech.

And if VVV6 happened to be destroyed, then Akira would have gone the same way as Kyuma. Destroy the machine, destroy the pilot.

[DevilHighDxD]

Originally Posted by Key Board

If Akira and Saki had a Haruto and L-Elf kind of relationship, than yes.

Saki.. doesn't really have any friends.

Half of her miserable life is caused by the damned Dorssian, which is why I absolutely despite the pairing of A-drei and Saki. Also yeah.. She really doesn't have any friends, especially with what happened now she probably can't even make any friends if she want to.

[username31]

Originally Posted by LightDragonman

Yeah, the series has a lot to cover in just three episodes. Still, it can be done, provided that they don't waste time on meaningless points.

Also, I've heard speculations that the Saki in the future is actually Akira in Saki's body. Probably due to Satomi showing up and calling Akira the prince's godmother in front of Saki. What say you on that?

that nonsense speculation again, Saki in the future is Saki, Akira don't have reason to hijack Saki's body, for what? both of them is immortal and not interact much with others, second when hijack a body magius/kamitsuki don't have memories of the hijack person, the future saki speak exactly the way Saki will speak and she tell detailed story to the prince, Akira doesn't have that much suffering experiences like Saki and also like Irenesharda said why the future still piloting unit 4 not unit 6..

and i said this too many times already that Renbokoji guy in the future can be Satomi's descendant since they never tell he is Satomi which means Satomi will survive until the end...

[LightDragonman]

^^ At this point, Haruto is the only one with whom she can actually relate to. I really want those two to at least have one more talk wih each other, at least to affirm that they aren't alone, and don't have to suffer alone.

[Irenesharda]

Originally Posted by username31

and i said this too many times already that Renbokoji guy in the future can be Satomi's descendant since they never tell he is Satomi which means Satomi will survive until the end...

Satomi's Satomi. He acts too much like his normal self to be someone else. Also, his descendant wouldn't look just like him, nor do I think his family name would carry for that long. Also, the Prince calls him a kamitsuki along with Saki, as well as his godmother, who we're going to assume is Akira. So, he became an immortal somewhere down the line.

Originally Posted by LightDragonman

^^ At this point, Haruto is the only one with whom she can actually relate to. I really want those two to at least have one more talk wih each other, at least to affirm that they aren't alone, and don't have to suffer alone.

Well, actually, there is plenty of suffering going around now for Saki to relate a little to everybody. However, what's kind of sad is, Saki's been out of the loop since episode 15. She doesn't know about Marie, Lise, Kyuma, or the fact that the entire module has been destroyed. She doesn't even know about the Phantom ships or the Magius at this point. She doesn't know Cain and Amadeus are aliens, and she doesn't know that she was completely used in a plan to take Neo Jior down.

She's really just thinking that she let down everyone by getting captured allowing the Dorssia government to reveal their secret to the world.