2016-06-30, 22:36 | Link #1541 |
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This had potential but sort of wasted it. The first half was fine, but it went downhill after Biba's introduction. This series is best enjoyed as sort of a popcorn flick where you just turn your brain off and watch for pure enjoyment, like a Micheal Bay film.
Overall I give it a 5.5/10
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2016-06-30, 23:39 | Link #1543 |
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In a better and/or more normal show, this ending would have been good, maybe even very good. It would still have some issues, but it would have been a solid feel-good ending with decent action and some highly compelling visuals.
But given what Kabaneri has been like since Biba showed up, this ending really was too normal. Kabaneri had reached a point where it's biggest strength was its "rule of cool" OTPness. So given that, this ending actually felt strangely safe and conventional, slightly underwhelming. The final major set piece, involving Ikoma and Biba and Mumei, really needed something more. It's hard to put my finger on it, but the Ikoma/Biba clash probably needed more dialogue and/or more charisma, or maybe more colorful/explosive attacks. Biba in particular came across as far too normal a "last human boss" given his characterization to date. The actual action choreography in Ikoma vs. Biba was good enough, but just barely. Mumei's role in all of this was Ok, but it did feel rushed. On the whole, this ending could have used more surprising zaniness. The one scene that stands out to me as living up to Kabaneri's inherent ridiculousness was Ikoma blowing away that train. That was a very good scene for the type of show this had become. But the finale needed more of that in order for it to be a truly satisfying ending, in my opinion. I'm not yet sure what I'd rank the show overall.
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2016-06-30, 23:54 | Link #1544 | |
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For the show's intended audience(15-16 years old), the show is quite interesting. It has all conflict and anticipation. For audience with twice that age, the show is plain.
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2016-07-01, 00:07 | Link #1545 | |
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It's less entertaining, on the surface, but also safer. This way, not everyone is happy but some are content and at least others can move on with little or no anger in their hearts. In my case, I can just shrug it off in relative acceptance as another one for the stockpile. |
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2016-07-01, 00:09 | Link #1547 |
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Oh Biba Amatori... Biba the Fool! Well, it was a fun ride now that Ikoma, Mumei, and the rest of the Kotetsujou crew are out of Kongoukaku! Still, there are things that are left unresolved though like what will happen to the Kabane plague and such. |
2016-07-01, 00:19 | Link #1549 | |
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2016-07-01, 00:30 | Link #1550 | ||
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Kabaneri went from a pretty interesting and creative zombie apocalypse show to very conventional shounen good guys vs. bad guys. It shouldn't be hard to see why that would be disappointing to many viewers. But what maybe could have salvaged it was making the shounen side less conventional. Quote:
I was hoping for a truly ridiculous OTP fight between Monster!Mumei and Ikoma, where Biba tries to pull something very Snidely Whiplash-y with an evil shit-eating grin causing an "Oh shit!" moment for Ikoma, and then something wild happens to resolve it all. Instead we get a very conventional Main Good Guy vs. Last Human Boss fight, and the big monstrous version of the popular female character is just kinda there, hoping to gain Key-esque FEELS I suppose.
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2016-07-01, 00:39 | Link #1551 |
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The ending was kind of nice to see Biba and his people die. But we wouldn't even be in this situation if he never existed to begin with. Just 1 character ruined the whole show. So sad.
I'll give this show credit for the first 6 episodes, the sound track, animation, and art style though. At least that was enjoyable to watch. |
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2016-07-01, 01:00 | Link #1553 |
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It should be self-evident there's no point in having a cool ass-kicking girl character in your show if you're gonna reduce her to rescue fodder. You're killing the appeal of having such a character in the show in the first place. It should be obvious, yet lots of "authors" keep making the same mistake, specially in anime.
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2016-07-01, 01:25 | Link #1554 | |
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Not to mention that I don't believe Kabaneri ever stopped being a zombie apocalypse show. Just like Resident Evil doesn't stop being a zombie video game whenever you have to fight Wesker, who was at least originally a human (like Biba actually being a Kabaneri, that also eventually changed), or some other technically non-zombie entity at the end. Nope, I'd much rather watch another throwaway yet harmless series ending like the one for Kabaneri rather than stick with a much dumber show where the finale makes me visibly angry or annoyed after an attempt to "throw reason to the curb" as you've put it. To be fair, it's also possible to make a show that's dumber yet tolerable enough for me to simply enjoy it and not be bothered, under other circumstances, but Kabaneri's already shown that some of the audience's most negative reactions happened when it attempted to get darker/crazier. Therefore, I don't see that as an improvement, other than for those who are purely hatewatching it with no other concern. On a less extreme level...your suggestion about doing more with Monster Mumei feels like a double-edged sword to me, since it would have increased the angst and drama (more Key "feels" too), but I suppose it's not impossible for them to have tweaked the scenario just enough to provide more of what you want without necessarily blowing everything up (figuratively speaking or otherwise). |
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2016-07-01, 01:26 | Link #1555 | |
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Same thing with Kurusu. He fell off the tracks, landed in a river, faced a horde of zombies and gets welcomed back by Ayame (his crush).
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2016-07-01, 01:33 | Link #1556 | |
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There's a huge difference between being B entertainment and being garbage, it's sad that some people don't get the difference and think that just being shit makes anything into a guilty pleasure. Doesn't OTP mean "one true pairing"? Or do you mean OP, as in overpowered? |
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2016-07-01, 01:52 | Link #1557 | |
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Which is a rather preposterous idea when fully considered, because several of the cliches that people have complained about are also present in zombie media, including the "humanity is the real monster, not the zombies!" angle as well as having the hero rescue the girl/other survivors, etc. and all the stupidity from guards or other authority figures. Kabaneri has gotten a lot of heat for that sort of mix, and yet that's clearly part of the zombie genre too, in practice, and not an exclusively shonen trait. "Pure action shows" are no less cliched or stereotypical by nature. In fact, quite a few action show cliches are also present in this final arc. It's also not true that this series never had stuff like the old shonen idealism at the very start or was "promising" to have action scenes with nothing in between. But hey, whatever. This is already getting old and the show's barely ended. Last edited by Kusaja; 2016-07-01 at 02:05. |
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2016-07-01, 01:59 | Link #1558 | |
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If you're going out of your way to make the girl strong, stick to it. Because the appeal of a strong girl is to be strong. That's the freaking point.
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2016-07-01, 02:04 | Link #1559 | ||
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2016-07-01, 02:23 | Link #1560 | |
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