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Old 2023-06-29, 06:22   Link #821
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Absolutely

If they kiss, I'm dropping this

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Don't worry they wont. Or at least editor will not allowed that happen because Aka and Mengo can passing dubious borderline if none control them >_>

There is a big consequence if they do that, for instance: a massive flop wave for Oshi no ko from amount people who going to ragedrop this manga because they feel betrayed for such heinous plot twist.

Think about it, Oshi no Ko Became big hit because Ai an idol who suffered tragic death for her decision to raised a children then later if author stupidly decide to make her children commit incest...is that good things?
No matter you look that horrible from us readers perspective and there is Ai who is real victim for this she had to died earlier abandoned her children and now must face her children commit an incest what happen to her is beyond tragic at that point.

Put incest is Aka signing suicide letter for Oshi no Ko. It definitely must not happen for a reason.

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Old 2023-06-29, 08:27   Link #822
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If you consider something as benign as hugging to be sexual or incestuous, I think you need to get your mind out of the gutter
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Old 2023-06-29, 08:28   Link #823
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Finally a nice chapter. Last few chapters were snoozefest IMO.

and it would be great if they went the incest route in the ending, not showing but implying.
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Old 2023-06-29, 10:39   Link #824
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finding salvation within one another.
You're jumping the gun. This might change something for Ruby because avenging Goro was her main motivation, but it's up in the air whether this changes anything substantial for Aqua. He told Ruby to stop seeking revenge but he never said he was gonna do the same. We know he can be pretty hypocritical so we can't make any conclusions just yet.

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note that the starry eyes disappeared at the end
Ruby's eyes. We don't get to see Aqua's eyes clearly at the end.
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Old 2023-06-29, 12:22   Link #825
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You're jumping the gun. This might change something for Ruby because avenging Goro was her main motivation, but it's up in the air whether this changes anything substantial for Aqua. He told Ruby to stop seeking revenge but he never said he was gonna do the same. We know he can be pretty hypocritical so we can't make any conclusions just yet.



Ruby's eyes. We don't get to see Aqua's eyes clearly at the end.
Aqua doesn't need to completely give up on revenge to change. Just going from pushing everyone away and living on nothing but spite to being a proper guardian for Ruby would still be an improvement.
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Old 2023-06-29, 13:10   Link #826
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Spoiler for 123 leak:

It's hard to believe but this is actually happening
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Old 2023-06-29, 13:11   Link #827
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I refuse to believe that.

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and it would be great if they went the incest route in the ending, not showing but implying.
That... doesn't make sense though. He was Sarina's doctor prior and had a father-daughter relationship at best.

Besides, we all know Kana is the endgame.
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Old 2023-06-29, 13:14   Link #828
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Aqua doesn't need to completely give up on revenge to change. Just going from pushing everyone away and living on nothing but spite to being a proper guardian for Ruby would still be an improvement.
He won't truly get better unless he stops trying to shoulder everything on his own. That was the root of the problem and the real reason he never opened up to Ruby after all.

Rather than being guardian to Ruby (for better of worse, he's just a kid like her; he can't be her guardian), he should just stop trying to be the "hero" that solves all the problems on his own. Though I don't expect that kind of growth from him.
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Old 2023-06-29, 13:16   Link #829
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I refuse to believe that.



That... doesn't make sense though. He was Sarina's doctor prior and had a father-daughter relationship at best.

Besides, we all know Kana is the endgame.
Already confirmed be several leakers.

We are gonna have to wait the scans in 2-3 days for 100% confirmation tho.
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Old 2023-06-29, 13:52   Link #830
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But I don't want any more little sister incest in my manga. I only give it a pass in Anoseka due to it being the reverse of this one where they were reincarnated into separate families and the author doing a crap job with the other love interests in the main story.
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Old 2023-06-29, 14:09   Link #831
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Already confirmed be several leakers.

We are gonna have to wait the scans in 2-3 days for 100% confirmation tho.
Even if the leaks are true, we're just gonna have Aqua turn her down in the next chapter.

Anyone thinking we're seriously gonna have incest here needs their head examined.
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Old 2023-06-29, 14:47   Link #832
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Even if the leaks are true, we're just gonna have Aqua turn her down in the next chapter.

Anyone thinking we're seriously gonna have incest here needs their head examined.
He will either turn her down or tell her to put the issue on hold until he's done with his revenge most likely yeah although incest subtext is already in play here even if he turn her down.

I don't think Auqa/Goro is getting with anyone at this point.
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Old 2023-06-29, 15:59   Link #833
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He will either turn her down or tell her to put the issue on hold until he's done with his revenge most likely yeah although incest subtext is already in play here even if he turn her down.

I don't think Auqa/Goro is getting with anyone at this point.
There is no incest subtext anywhere in this manga.

Aqua is gonna end up withj Kana.
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Old 2023-06-29, 17:11   Link #834
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There is no incest subtext anywhere in this manga.

Aqua is gonna end up withj Kana.
There is clear interest from her side at the very least.

Don't exactly care to argue about who he will end up with and you seem to have a very firm belief about where the story will end from the looks of it so it will be a waste of time for both of us.

Romance doesn't add much to this story anyway and always felt padding
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Old 2023-06-29, 17:48   Link #835
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Let's wait until those leaks are actually confirmed before discussing them. Even if it's real, it's easy to twist things by intentionally withholding key information.
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Old 2023-06-29, 18:03   Link #836
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He won't truly get better unless he stops trying to shoulder everything on his own. That was the root of the problem and the real reason he never opened up to Ruby after all.

Rather than being guardian to Ruby (for better of worse, he's just a kid like her; he can't be her guardian), he should just stop trying to be the "hero" that solves all the problems on his own. Though I don't expect that kind of growth from him.
He didn't open up to Ruby precisely because he didn't want her to end up living only for revenge. It happened anyway, so he had no choice but to confess now.

Even if Aqua is still after Kamiki, living for Ruby's sake too would still be progress.
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Old 2023-06-29, 21:57   Link #837
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He didn't open up to Ruby precisely because he didn't want her to end up living only for revenge.
Which gives away the real problem here. He always tries to shoulder everything himself because he has a hero complex. It's not something new. It's the very reason he became a doctor. The very reason he thought of Sarina's death as a personal failure from his part even though it's not his fault at all. That's not a healthy way of thinking to have.

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Even if Aqua is still after Kamiki, living for Ruby's sake too would still be progress.
No, real progress would be to stop trying to shoulder everything himself. Both he and Ruby should stop trying to get revenge and work together to bring Kamiki to justice instead, which is not the same thing. If he still wants to get revenge, it means he didn't grow at all. Specially if he tries to do it all alone.
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Old 2023-06-30, 09:47   Link #838
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Which gives away the real problem here. He always tries to shoulder everything himself because he has a hero complex. It's not something new. It's the very reason he became a doctor. The very reason he thought of Sarina's death as a personal failure from his part even though it's not his fault at all. That's not a healthy way of thinking to have.

No, real progress would be to stop trying to shoulder everything himself. Both he and Ruby should stop trying to get revenge and work together to bring Kamiki to justice instead, which is not the same thing. If he still wants to get revenge, it means he didn't grow at all. Specially if he tries to do it all alone.
First, you shouldn't be overgeneralizing being motivated to put others before yourself to be a bad thing.
It can turn toxic if it's one-sided and the other side doesn't care for you back, but there plenty of cases where people are more responsible and motivated to act when they have to support a family, a loved one, or even their pet.

Second, thinking in terms of black-and-white and pushing your own ideas about what you think is "healthy" doesn't help anyone recovering from trauma or their own mental issues either.
We already know Goro and Sarina have issues. If Aqua can go from having Kamiki in his head rent-free 100% of the time to thinking about supporting Ruby even 25% of the time, that's a positive improvement regardless whether that fits your idea of "healthy" or not.
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Old 2023-06-30, 17:05   Link #839
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Not regularly keeping tabs on the manga, but I had to look this up because of someone mentioning it. It really took 122 chapters to reveal this thing I've been complaining about since ep 1 of the anime.
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Old 2023-06-30, 18:48   Link #840
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Let's wait until those leaks are actually confirmed before discussing them. Even if it's real, it's easy to twist things by intentionally withholding key information.
The leakers are typically pretty reliable and from what I can tell they're holding back to keep the fandom from melting down.
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