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ZeroXSEED · 2013-09-24, 09:57

Cecilia has real excuse of having shitty I.S. with zero support from HQ

If she's using Silent Zephyr, Ichika and Lingyin will be stomped left and right, probably both at once.

demino_hellsin · 2013-09-24, 10:03

disagree. Again, I want to apply nasuverse logic here. It is not a match of purely power level. You need to take into account good and bad match-ups in type of ability as well as combat conditions. The element of surprise, terrain advantage and such.

Cecilia is still fairly unskilled in terms of CQC and though she is competent in it, her inexperience in actual practice of the craft left her floundering even in the face of an amateur like Ichika. Add to that how she was utterly humiliated by M in a knife fight.

Assuming her control of bits has always been limited to 4 with 2 in reserve. We can observe that she still doesn't have full mastery over her bits. if not only due to her recent learning of FLEXIBLE nor the fact she cannot move when she concentrates on her bits.

Silent Zephyr has shown itself to have 6 bits active. Either that or I'm just imagining M had once launched 2 shield bits and 4 attack bits while firing her rifle at an acceptable accuracy.

Unless Cecilia shows at least that level of proficiency I don't think speaking too highly of her abilities is advisable. Though I myself hold Cecilia in high regards, I believe she is still quite weak in her current state.

ZeroXSEED · 2013-09-24, 10:08

I was exaggerating, though

What I meant is if she has right unit with right configuration for once she should have a chance for victory.

Of course, the fact that she got stomped by schwarzer regen made me facepalm. Once a jobber, always a jobber.

StratoSpear · 2013-09-24, 10:11

Fair enough, but still... shame. At the very least it would help with me fic at the later parts where the OC and CCs face off against each other one more time.

Funny enough, the OCs would have Gospel on their side so that would make it OC/CC vs CC, I suppose?

demino_hellsin · 2013-09-24, 10:20

I believe Cecilia's current blue tears just hasn't reached its full potential yet. I again mostly blame the writer. He can put down basic concepts but he has no ability in terms of expansion. The BT in its basic state can do so much but limited imagination has restricted it in canon to so little. Even with Ichika's energy nullifying weapons and shielding, BT still has a fighting chance as is. For example, if Setsura charges towards the BT, Cecilia still has a choice to launch her missile bits or shoot the Byakushiki from behind. Remember the Reiraku Byakuya is not permanently on. Setsura's shield is only one-sided in where it faces. If the bits would fire from behind, then it can damage Setsura seriously.

Stratos, I think just all out battle damage will suffice to show how badass Inami is. Inami is a soldier right? In a way. I imagine that he would know how to dodge the dragon cannons without resorting to getting out of the way if my imagination is correct.

StratoSpear · 2013-09-24, 10:33

His helmet interface actually detects space distortion, so it's not all sixth sense at that point. There's still technology involved.

Yes, he is projected to be a badass in that fight but due to a romantic complex between him and the Gospel(The AI, not Natasha), he doesn't get to show much with the Gospel unconditionally assisting him in battle. Not that it's an issue, I'm actually looking forward to how to play the fight out.

agetreme · 2013-09-24, 11:02

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Originally Posted by demino_hellsin

I understand stratos but I don't think destroying the cannons is a good way to do what you want to show. I'm not sure why but I just vote against it. It feels like something anyone would think to do I guess. Though maybe how he does it would set him apart.

Those two may be cadets, but they are still young girls. they have the mentality of teenaged girls. Particularly a brat in Rin and an arrogant little girl in Cecilia. Taking advantage of those traits should be fairly simple.

*cough*Nobody take advantage of that*cough*

I observed that most OCs (thankfully none on our side) utilize combat experience (not IS-piloting experience) and technological/weapon advantage rather than playing psychological warfare with the Pilot.

Let's not forget one Advantage of being the Sane man of IS-verse: In IS-verse, Females are quick to anger.

ZeroXSEED · 2013-09-24, 11:59

Quest Ichika won virtually ALL his match that way

The moment the girls become sane after the first bout, he got stomped left and right.

StratoSpear · 2013-09-24, 12:07

Just churning out main development points/events and I'm already seeing 5 arcs, with a 6th in-planning. Is that too long for a fic?

ZeroXSEED · 2013-09-24, 12:38

Depends, how LONG is an arc?

Because I have read few fast paced fic out there, cramming... let's see, one year worth of plot in 10 chapter or so.

Tempest35 · 2013-09-24, 15:48

Wow, someone lit a fire in here...

And who mentioned 'Sengoku Era' types!? 0.0 *dusts off old fic idea* A little tweak here...and a twerk there...

Fireminer · 2013-09-24, 17:13

10 arcs? Nah! My Code Geass/Muv-Luv is 5, Muv-Luv Extra is 6. I've read some 100+ chapters fics, and some 10+ years-old ongoing fics. So 10 arcs is still acceaptable.

Basically, the author is wasting time for Harem antic, instead of invidual girl. And that suck!

Oh, and to win a battle, Ichika just has to show his puppy eyes and the "If you win, my sister gonna kill you!" line.

ZeroXSEED · 2013-09-25, 00:28

Well, the school festival arc will be, ah, interesting

"If you think everyone can and will follow your whim, you are mistaken, senpai"
- Icchan

Fireminer · 2013-09-25, 01:02

Nope! Half follow her legs, and the other for her chest!

Oh, and another snippet:

"Wait! What do you mean you can't dance?

"Well...Last time Dan invited me to do that, I made a mess of myself..."

"Shh...Here go!" (grabbing Icchan wrist) I will teach you to do that!"

(Five minute later)

"Wow! Never know that Tungsen could be bent like that!"

StratoSpear · 2013-09-25, 01:18

Dare I ask what Tungsen is?

HasuMasu · 2013-09-25, 01:47

^ Tungsten is a rare metal that doesn't appear freely on Earth.

It's hard and brittle, with the highest known boiling/melting point.

In appearance it looks like a more lustrous iron.

Hmm~ it seems like I mixed up some names.

<<Tsukkuyomi>>'s equipment should be <<Ama no Ukihashi>>.

<<Takama no Hara>> would be <<Amaterasu>>'s.

<<Amaterasu>> is <<Tsukkuyomi>>'s Second Shift.

The appearance is almost exactly the same except for the color which is now all red.

<<Kotoamatsukami>> is the same.

<<Ama no Ukihashi>> x2 were both replaced by <<Takama no Hara>> also x2.

<<Takama no Hara>> is sleeker and more versatile.

<<Ama no Ukihashi>> fires a powerful long-range stream with about 2-3 seconds of charge time.

<<Takama no Hara>> has the same function, but it can also fire automatic with no charge time but less power and range.

It can also fire in a wider area with even less range.

Aside from the equipment, <<Amaterasu>> replaces <<Tsukkuyomi>>'s large hip thrusters with several smaller ones throughout the frame.

There is a decrease in maximum speed, but an increase in agility, maneuverability, etc. while allowing for <<Ignition Boost>> in unusual directions.

I mentioned that Satomi would fight Tatenashi multiple times, but every one of those fights would be with <<Tsukkuyomi>>.

<<Amaterasu>> would appear only in the final battle against Phantom Task.

Fireminer · 2013-09-25, 01:55

@Masuzu: You know Japanese? Cos I need some name.

HasuMasu · 2013-09-25, 02:06

Hmm~ I might be able to give names, but well we won't know until we try.

Fireminer · 2013-09-25, 02:15

Ok, here is somethin I need in both Kanji (if possible) and Romanji: "The Fallen Sakura Petal".

And another thing, does flat chest=balance?

HasuMasu · 2013-09-25, 02:46

As I thought, there are better people to consult.

2013-09-24, 09:57	Link #46201
ZeroXSEED I am no one Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Inside your head	Cecilia has real excuse of having shitty I.S. with zero support from HQ If she's using Silent Zephyr, Ichika and Lingyin will be stomped left and right, probably both at once. __________________

2013-09-24, 10:08	Link #46203
ZeroXSEED I am no one Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Inside your head	I was exaggerating, though What I meant is if she has right unit with right configuration for once she should have a chance for victory. Of course, the fact that she got stomped by schwarzer regen made me facepalm. Once a jobber, always a jobber. __________________

2013-09-24, 10:11	Link #46204
StratoSpear Titans Test Team Pilot Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: The Elysium	Fair enough, but still... shame. At the very least it would help with me fic at the later parts where the OC and CCs face off against each other one more time. Funny enough, the OCs would have Gospel on their side so that would make it OC/CC vs CC, I suppose? __________________ "You cannot be bad at watching a movie. You cannot be bad at listening to an album. ...But you can be bad at playing a videogame, and the game will punish you and deny you access to the rest of the videogame."

2013-09-24, 10:33	Link #46206
StratoSpear Titans Test Team Pilot Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: The Elysium	His helmet interface actually detects space distortion, so it's not all sixth sense at that point. There's still technology involved. Yes, he is projected to be a badass in that fight but due to a romantic complex between him and the Gospel(The AI, not Natasha), he doesn't get to show much with the Gospel unconditionally assisting him in battle. Not that it's an issue, I'm actually looking forward to how to play the fight out. __________________ "You cannot be bad at watching a movie. You cannot be bad at listening to an album. ...But you can be bad at playing a videogame, and the game will punish you and deny you access to the rest of the videogame."

2013-09-24, 11:59	Link #46208
ZeroXSEED I am no one Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Inside your head	Quest Ichika won virtually ALL his match that way The moment the girls become sane after the first bout, he got stomped left and right. __________________

2013-09-24, 10:03	Link #46202
demino_hellsin That one guy Join Date: Nov 2011	disagree. Again, I want to apply nasuverse logic here. It is not a match of purely power level. You need to take into account good and bad match-ups in type of ability as well as combat conditions. The element of surprise, terrain advantage and such. Cecilia is still fairly unskilled in terms of CQC and though she is competent in it, her inexperience in actual practice of the craft left her floundering even in the face of an amateur like Ichika. Add to that how she was utterly humiliated by M in a knife fight. Assuming her control of bits has always been limited to 4 with 2 in reserve. We can observe that she still doesn't have full mastery over her bits. if not only due to her recent learning of FLEXIBLE nor the fact she cannot move when she concentrates on her bits. Silent Zephyr has shown itself to have 6 bits active. Either that or I'm just imagining M had once launched 2 shield bits and 4 attack bits while firing her rifle at an acceptable accuracy. Unless Cecilia shows at least that level of proficiency I don't think speaking too highly of her abilities is advisable. Though I myself hold Cecilia in high regards, I believe she is still quite weak in her current state.

2013-09-24, 10:20	Link #46205
demino_hellsin That one guy Join Date: Nov 2011	I believe Cecilia's current blue tears just hasn't reached its full potential yet. I again mostly blame the writer. He can put down basic concepts but he has no ability in terms of expansion. The BT in its basic state can do so much but limited imagination has restricted it in canon to so little. Even with Ichika's energy nullifying weapons and shielding, BT still has a fighting chance as is. For example, if Setsura charges towards the BT, Cecilia still has a choice to launch her missile bits or shoot the Byakushiki from behind. Remember the Reiraku Byakuya is not permanently on. Setsura's shield is only one-sided in where it faces. If the bits would fire from behind, then it can damage Setsura seriously. Stratos, I think just all out battle damage will suffice to show how badass Inami is. Inami is a soldier right? In a way. I imagine that he would know how to dodge the dragon cannons without resorting to getting out of the way if my imagination is correct.

2013-09-24, 12:07	Link #46209
StratoSpear Titans Test Team Pilot Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: The Elysium	Just churning out main development points/events and I'm already seeing 5 arcs, with a 6th in-planning. Is that too long for a fic? __________________ "You cannot be bad at watching a movie. You cannot be bad at listening to an album. ...But you can be bad at playing a videogame, and the game will punish you and deny you access to the rest of the videogame."

2013-09-24, 12:38	Link #46210
ZeroXSEED I am no one Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Inside your head	Depends, how LONG is an arc? Because I have read few fast paced fic out there, cramming... let's see, one year worth of plot in 10 chapter or so. __________________

2013-09-24, 15:48	Link #46211
Tempest35 Awe of She Author Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Orlando	Wow, someone lit a fire in here... And who mentioned 'Sengoku Era' types!? 0.0 dusts off old fic idea A little tweak here...and a twerk there... __________________ "Focus entirely on me, you ordinary soldier."

2013-09-24, 17:13	Link #46212
Fireminer Lumine Passio Author Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Hanoi, Vietnam Age: 18	10 arcs? Nah! My Code Geass/Muv-Luv is 5, Muv-Luv Extra is 6. I've read some 100+ chapters fics, and some 10+ years-old ongoing fics. So 10 arcs is still acceaptable. Basically, the author is wasting time for Harem antic, instead of invidual girl. And that suck! Oh, and to win a battle, Ichika just has to show his puppy eyes and the "If you win, my sister gonna kill you!" line.

2013-09-25, 00:28	Link #46213
ZeroXSEED I am no one Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Inside your head	Well, the school festival arc will be, ah, interesting "If you think everyone can and will follow your whim, you are mistaken, senpai" - Icchan __________________

2013-09-25, 01:02	Link #46214
Fireminer Lumine Passio Author Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Hanoi, Vietnam Age: 18	Nope! Half follow her legs, and the other for her chest! Oh, and another snippet: "Wait! What do you mean you can't dance? "Well...Last time Dan invited me to do that, I made a mess of myself..." "Shh...Here go!" (grabbing Icchan wrist) I will teach you to do that!" (Five minute later) "Wow! Never know that Tungsen could be bent like that!"

2013-09-25, 01:18	Link #46215
StratoSpear Titans Test Team Pilot Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: The Elysium	Dare I ask what Tungsen is? __________________ "You cannot be bad at watching a movie. You cannot be bad at listening to an album. ...But you can be bad at playing a videogame, and the game will punish you and deny you access to the rest of the videogame."

2013-09-25, 01:47	Link #46216
HasuMasu Senior Member Artist Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: The Middle Way	^ Tungsten is a rare metal that doesn't appear freely on Earth. It's hard and brittle, with the highest known boiling/melting point. In appearance it looks like a more lustrous iron. Hmm~ it seems like I mixed up some names. <<Tsukkuyomi>>'s equipment should be <<Ama no Ukihashi>>. <<Takama no Hara>> would be <<Amaterasu>>'s. <<Amaterasu>> is <<Tsukkuyomi>>'s Second Shift. The appearance is almost exactly the same except for the color which is now all red. <<Kotoamatsukami>> is the same. <<Ama no Ukihashi>> x2 were both replaced by <<Takama no Hara>> also x2. <<Takama no Hara>> is sleeker and more versatile. <<Ama no Ukihashi>> fires a powerful long-range stream with about 2-3 seconds of charge time. <<Takama no Hara>> has the same function, but it can also fire automatic with no charge time but less power and range. It can also fire in a wider area with even less range. Aside from the equipment, <<Amaterasu>> replaces <<Tsukkuyomi>>'s large hip thrusters with several smaller ones throughout the frame. There is a decrease in maximum speed, but an increase in agility, maneuverability, etc. while allowing for <<Ignition Boost>> in unusual directions. I mentioned that Satomi would fight Tatenashi multiple times, but every one of those fights would be with <<Tsukkuyomi>>. <<Amaterasu>> would appear only in the final battle against Phantom Task. __________________ Last edited by HasuMasu; 2013-09-25 at 02:10.

2013-09-25, 01:55	Link #46217
Fireminer Lumine Passio Author Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Hanoi, Vietnam Age: 18	@Masuzu: You know Japanese? Cos I need some name.

2013-09-25, 02:06	Link #46218
HasuMasu Senior Member Artist Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: The Middle Way	Hmm~ I might be able to give names, but well we won't know until we try. __________________

2013-09-25, 02:15	Link #46219
Fireminer Lumine Passio Author Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Hanoi, Vietnam Age: 18	Ok, here is somethin I need in both Kanji (if possible) and Romanji: "The Fallen Sakura Petal". And another thing, does flat chest=balance?

2013-09-25, 02:46	Link #46220
HasuMasu Senior Member Artist Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: The Middle Way	As I thought, there are better people to consult. __________________