(L) Mirai Nikki (Series)

[bigdeath]

Well, I did not expect this cliffhanger. LOL

Spoiler:

Though, if I was Yuki I'd say it doesn't matter. Who she really is doesn't matter, Yunos too good at what she does to give up. Its like an addiction. lol

I want more badass Yuki, it made this episode a lot of fun.

And dat crazy ass look in Yuno's eyes this episode. This girl loves one thing besides Yuki.....guess what it is? lol

[MasterVampire]

So is she a clone of the dead Yuno or just another person being an imposter?

[Malkuth]

Originally Posted by serenade_beta

I always wondered why the guy was a foreigner... What was the point of that? Everyone else was Japanese and not only that, but this guy is the mayor.

Because he is the villain

[Guardian Enzo]

Originally Posted by MasterVampire

So is she a clone of the dead Yuno or just another person being an imposter?

Needless to say, no one answer that here!

[miroku2192]

So a few episodes back I made the guess (correctly to some degree I suppose) that the 3rd bone/body would be Yuno's. However, just as I said back then, and still now, I'm not really sure where they're going with this.

Only things I can currently think of are (given how it's mentioned she's an impostor, we probably don't want to take the face value of that, so it's safe to say, she IS Yuno (to some extent)):
1) Twin (?) Biologically, if you're a twin, you would have the same DNA right?
2) IF not twin, time travel? Alternate universe? (Stein-Gates anyone? PMM anyone :X?)

As for option #2, I feel like I could somewhat connect this to episode 1(was it?) where she's crying over dead Yuuki's body, or at least we think he's dead. So what would/could make sense is if this Yuno is actually a Yuno from a different time/world, in which Yuki dies and she is the final survivor, aka God, and she wishes to go back in time/different world to save Yuki? This, to some extent, would explain the 3rd body(skeleton), in which Yuno of this different world, kills the Yuno of that world. That would also explain why Yuno is some damn friggin amazing at protecting Yuki, because she's even willing to kill herself to protect him (lawl).

Maybe I'm on to something :X?

AND PLEASE, for Ef's sake, IF I, OR ANYONE, guessed ANYTHING right, PLEASE DO NOT QUOTE AND do the typical "lol i'm just laughing (because you're so right)" or "OMGBBQSAUCE DID YOU READ MANGAAAH?" Because no I didn't, and you asking that implies someone was right which = spoiler. I hate saying this, but it happens all the time -_-, and we all get spoilered as a result. Thanks !

[bigdeath]

@miroku2192

I hope you are right, because that would be an awesome twist. And lets be honest, this is the kind of show you can expect such crazy twists from.

[yourfriendrick]

Open if you have watched Ep. 19:

Spoiler:

Originally Posted by miroku2192

1) Twin (?) Biologically, if you're a twin, you would have the same DNA right?
2) IF not twin, time travel? Alternate universe? (Stein-Gates anyone? PMM anyone :X?)

My first thought is that she might have had a twin sister, but that wouldn't make much sense with the orphanage story. They would have mentioned two little girls adopted from the orphanage, I think - unless one twin was adopted, the other one wasn't, and then the non-adopted one killed the adopted one.

Another possibility is that the girl we know, with the pink hair, was some kind of tortured subhuman slave for ALL THREE of the rich people. And then, when she snapped and killed all three, she pretended to be the adopted daughter?

The most interesting thing we have heard about pink-hair is that she was tortured and put in a cage. I'll be disappointed if that turns out to have been a hallucination.

Rather than Steins-Gate, remember that the god of this anime can warp reality a lot. Could pink-hair be an emanation of divine power from Deus? That would explain her super-killing talent better than just the trauma of having been locked in a cage.

[Jimmy C]

I thought of twins too, but something struck me, Akise never said they compared the DNA of the unknown body to the current Gasai Yuno. So, while we have confirmation that the last body is the original Yuno, they never said she shared the same DNA as the current one.

[D-KLAC]

good gawd almighty now what a wham to go

this ep.19

mayor person want a orphanage to shut down yet cry but secretly smile.
some days dairy meeting here yuki & yuno expose 11th as crying mayor yet all dairy owner revealed yea yuki yea i'm back with yuno & better than ever.
yet whole yuki man-up just act with yuno making all plays & plans so next team with big head 8th.
meanwhile 9th & squriel meet young cop reveal body 1 & 2 it yuno's parents wait on 3rd body yet pull yuno's parents can't create own so assume yuno is adopted.
now we yuki & yuki with big 8th & her white followers plan & launch attack mayor 11th.
but mayor 11th yea i got emp car & it's a double cross unleash yuno & slaughter big 8th's white followers.
so now car chase yuno see yuki's message goes oh no while mayor 11th yea i got it all plan.
even from car side bump to push to fly cars yet landed all perfect.
here come wild card it's 9th-grenade & aru with reveal.
from maury's dna test & drum roll body no.3 is you are yuno gasai.
"yuno" going that a lie telling yuki it a lie & yuki going no way what going on.

yea got wonder now yea body no.3 is yuno & then who "yuno" that still alive???

[-Sho-]

Wth was that. Oh come on , this episode killed the show for me. Start good to end bad.
Anyway , yuno's revelation was unexpected.

[Faerie]

Aw god, it was pretty sad when the onigiri girl got killed. I know she's not an important character, but awww :/

Apart from that, when will people learn not to hesitate? I expected more, Yuno, even if you anticipated what was going to follow, you should know better than not to shoot 11th in the face immediately.

Love Minene and the squirrel (what was that....?)

[Casshern]

Tsk, hate this cliffhanger crap. Off to read the manga.

[Zodiamaster]

Holy ****ing cliffhanger! o_O

Also I gotta mention how epic was the moment Yuno started shooting at the eleventh while Yukiteru was driving.

[warita]

Originally Posted by miroku2192

As for option #2, I feel like I could somewhat connect this to episode 1(was it?) where she's crying over dead Yuuki's body, or at least we think he's dead. So what would/could make sense is if this Yuno is actually a Yuno from a different time/world, in which Yuki dies and she is the final survivor, aka God, and she wishes to go back in time/different world to save Yuki? This, to some extent, would explain the 3rd body(skeleton), in which Yuno of this different world, kills the Yuno of that world. That would also explain why Yuno is some damn friggin amazing at protecting Yuki, because she's even willing to kill herself to protect him (lawl).

Miroku, I pretty much think the same. The option number one occured to me too, but then wouldnt Akise know that Yuno had a twin sister? Hence option number one is not probable, albeit not impossible.

So, I am leaning towards option 2.... which however begs the question that if Yuno is God in some parallel universe, why didnt she resurrect Yukki in that parallel world? Why travel to another universe to save a different Yukki? My guess is, that if Yuno is from a different dimension, then its not because she is a god, but because the god in her universe granted her the wish to save Yukki in a different dimension.... but now thinking about it, it sounds way too far fetched, so I will just wait and see.

Othwriwse, as far as the episode goes, it felt very rushed and crammed with different happenings. In my opinion they should have splitted this episode into 2 and elaborate a bit more on how Yukki became so badass. We all expected him to be badass, nevertheless the way it was presented to us this episode felt so out of the blue that it didnt feel realistic at all.
Hmmm, then again, when did this anime ever bother with realism???

I mean.... did you also wonder during this episode when did Yukki do his drivers licence... and in case he doesnt have one, where he learned to drive so good, he actually manages to catch up with a professional driver from the mayors car?

But putting that aside... so Yukki is doubting Yuno once again. Gosh I wish he would stop that. Just minutes prior to that he told Yuno he will never again let go of her and then they tell him Yuno is an imposter and he forgets all about his words. I can understand that it comes to him as a shock that Yuno is not who he thought she is, but really, does it matter? I mean, no matter who Yuno is, she is still the same person who helped him on numerous occations, saved his life, fought along his side and would be willing to die for him. So what difference does it make, if she is the real Yuno Gasai or not?

[Zodiamaster]

It's very possible that the twin sister theory is correct, I might be overthinking it but I think it's foreshadowed in the openings.

In both of them, at some point Yuno is shown having a knife fight with a copy of her, eventually one overpowers the other, then both stand up and become one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3nUxQSBl-Q

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ip1zVBZzuyM

[monsta666]

Originally Posted by warita

Otherwise, as far as the episode goes, it felt very rushed and crammed with different happenings. In my opinion they should have split this episode into 2 and elaborate a bit more on how Yukki became so badass. We all expected him to be badass, nevertheless the way it was presented to us this episode felt so out of the blue that it didn't feel realistic at all.
The again, when did this anime ever bother with realism.

I mean.... did you also wonder during this episode when did Yukki do his drivers licence... and in case he doesn't have one, where he learned to drive so good, he actually manages to catch up with a professional driver from the mayors car?

Yes I got that too, I almost had to check the episode number to see whether I had missed an episode as this sudden change of character caught me by surprise. I guess it was just an act that Yuno put him up to but still, the confidence and the way he pulled it off was not really done in the fashion we would expect of Yukki. It would have been nice if they explained some of their plans or at least the change in Yukki that way things would have seemed less charring. I guess maybe they need to get on in with the story so they just had to skim over this detail...

Originally Posted by warita

But putting that aside... so Yukki is doubting Yuno once again. Gosh I wish he would stop that. Just minutes prior to that he told Yuno he will never again let go of her and then they tell him Yuno is an imposter and he forgets all about his words. I can understand that it comes to him as a shock that Yuno is not who he thought she is, but really, does it matter? I mean, no matter who Yuno is, she is still the same person who helped him on numerous occasions, saved his life, fought along his side and would be willing to die for him. So what difference does it make, if she is the real Yuno Gasai or not?

I know it is silly but in all fairness they do this in many TV and anime series. This indecision is usually done to create drama/suspense. I am sure he will waver for a bit then Yuno will persuade him to see the light. And again by doing it this way they can squeeze even more drama which is an even bigger bonus. On the other hand if he had remained unphased over the whole revelation then it would be less dramatic (although it would help push the story along faster).

Saying all that, I do have a hard time with these sort of scenarios because the characters - when thinking about these issues - totally dismiss all the things this person has done and become completely fixated on their identity. It doesn't matter if this person saved them, helped them survive from the brink or gave them a million carrot cakes or a mansion. They will only remember the lie. But going back even if Yukki didn't have doubts over this revelation they could have still managed to add a cliffhanger. He could have just said: "so what" and then shoot someone to prove his love to Yuna and show he was REALLY a bad ass. I bet Yuno would have really wet herself if that happened!

Originally Posted by Zodiamaster

It's very possible that the twin sister theory is correct, I might be overthinking it but I think it's foreshadowed in the openings.

The twin sister theory seems the most simplistic and thus plausible explanation for the matching DNA. So that is what I am thinking and would have immediately thought if in Yukki's position.

Top marks for the poster who made that guess a few episodes back!

[willyvereb]

Maybe it's the fault of the translations but I think people took Akise's words wrong.

Akise found out that the Gasai family never managed to conceive a child. So Gasai Yuno was adopted. Then he went back to Yuno's old orphanage for further investigation. There he found Yuno's umbilical cord that the orphanage managed to presserve for some unknown reason. Following that Akise analyzed the DNA of the cord and matched it with the DNA of the 3rd corpse. They were a perfect match.

So Akise rightfully assumed that the real Gasai Yuno got killed somewhere in the past and were replaced with the "Gasai Yuno" of the present. As such the current "Gasai Yuno" is an impostor who just pretends to be the member of the Gasai family.

To conclude Akise's trail of thought, he assumed that "Yuno" presumably murdered the entire Gasai family in cold blood then pretended to be Gasai Yuno at school for whatever sick reason.

Although there's a catch. For pretending to be Gasai Yuno, "Yuno" had to somehow fool all the people who knew the original. She could perform it in 3 ways:

1.) Being the twin or at least the lookalike of the real Gasai Yuno
2.) Being damned good at the art of disguises. In short she managed to alter her appearance to resemble the real Yuno.
3.) She killed Yuno and her parents LONG before the start of the series. So people assumed the changes on Yuno's appearance to her aging.

Naturally, given a few other facts the 3rd option makes little sense.
So it must be either 1.) or 2.)

As for the alternate world theory, it has a number of faults. Namely:
1.) If Yuno won the game she must've become the new God. How come she couldn't resurrect Yukiteru in her own world and just live a happy life?
2.) As the winer of the game in an alternate world, Yuno should have the same powers as Deus. Yet we saw nothing about those. Not even slight implications.
3.) Same way if Yuno had become a God, how come Deus never noticed it?
4.) Foremost of all, how did Yuno became a Diary Holder if she was already God? That makes little sense.

The show must answer to the four questions above before we can consider the alternate world theory.


NOTE: No, despite being a manga reader I didn't reveal any spoilers. So don't look at me for answers regarding this issue. I just wished to clear a misconception about Akise's claim. I also felt like sharing the thoughts I felt when I was reading this manga on monthly basis. Yuno's identiy and origins were a hotly debated topic back then. So I feel glad that the anime discussions are doing the same.

[DXMichael]

Just watched episode 19.

The start of this episode was quite surprising. Yuki suddenly interrupting the meeting and revealing Eleventh's identity. Then he proceeds to reveal how he knew and looks all brave and fearless I want to see more of that kind of Yuki, it was interesting

He can't take all the credit though, it was Yuno who pretty much predicted what Eleventh would say and told Yuki what to say

Yikes, Yuno was adopted? Damn, didn't see that coming. I wonder if she knows or not.

The alliance with Eight was the children was pretty cool. But dammmnnn, I didn't expect them to betray her like that. I liked that girl who offered Yuki the food, why did you have to kill her Yuno

*Sigh* Well, Yuki was good while he lasted. Now we shall go back to him beign confused about doubting Yuno again.

[ookamigirl]

Yukkii & Yuno sure make a great team when they're alone.
Yuno is always the brains of the operation, without her Yukkii would be a crybaby coward and long dead. Her only problem, besides being crazy, is that she doesn't play way with others. Especially if they get too close to her precious Yukkii.
The alliance idea was just brilliant, but went totally sideways.
The real question now is: Who is Yuno?

[thundrakkon]

It seems my theories and thoughts are falling a little into place.

For speculations a few pages back:

http://forums.animesuki.com/showthre...13#post4006713

http://forums.animesuki.com/showthre...00#post4008200

Originally Posted by warita

So, I am leaning towards option 2.... which however begs the question that if Yuno is God in some parallel universe, why didnt she resurrect Yukki in that parallel world? Why travel to another universe to save a different Yukki? My guess is, that if Yuno is from a different dimension, then its not because she is a god, but because the god in her universe granted her the wish to save Yukki in a different dimension.... but now thinking about it, it sounds way too far fetched, so I will just wait and see.

Originally Posted by willyvereb

As for the alternate world theory, it has a number of faults. Namely:
1.) If Yuno won the game she must've become the new God. How come she couldn't resurrect Yukiteru in her own world and just live a happy life?
2.) As the winer of the game in an alternate world, Yuno should have the same powers as Deus. Yet we saw nothing about those. Not even slight implications.
3.) Same way if Yuno had become a God, how come Deus never noticed it?
4.) Foremost of all, how did Yuno became a Diary Holder if she was already God? That makes little sense.

The show must answer to the four questions above before we can consider the alternate world theory.

To try to answer both of you with more speculation, the winner is to become the god of time and space. Hence, the only thing that the winner should be able to do is alter/control time and space. Resurrection is not in the realm of time and space, so that should not be the ability of the winner.

Hence, most likely, Yuno used her new powers to travel through to a different time and space, or more precisely, back in time. As for why Deus did not notice, probably has to do with logic that 2 gods of time and space cannot exist in the same time and space, so by going back herself, Yuno no longer is a god. Hence, she was able to replace the original of this world, since for intents and purposes, they are the same person. Also, it could be the intent of Yuno to die this time around for Yuki's sake, so she got rid of god status.

Now, of course, the next logical problem with all of this is that if Yuki wins it all, then he will then be faced with the same problem as Yuno. Yuki is assuming that he can resurrect and restructure everyone's lives, but is that what Deus promised that he will be able to do? Deus never mentioned what the powers are, just the fact that he is a god of time and space. Yuki might be in for a shock if and when he wins.

Now, I'm wondering what Deus really is, if he originally had a human body, and who that human was. If they ever do answer that, it might be another twist.