GATE - Light Novel Discussion

[Hata]

Originally Posted by Top Sergeant

Either deliberate disinformation for the Empire, or error on the manga creator's part: the mortar shown is an 81mm, but the range Itami gave was maximum for a 120mm (or thereabouts). (3 leagues = 9 miles)

I thought it was 1 league = 1.6km, 3 league = 4.8 ~= 5km?

Just something that jumped out at me, being a former mortar man.

then did the translation got the order correct? like is it supposed to be
"half charge" or "half loaded"? and what is the correct words for #2 setting in the story?

[Newhope]

1 league=5.5km or 3.4 miles.

[Hata]

Originally Posted by Newhope

1 league=5.5km or 3.4 miles.

no, I/we/this manga is not talking about the earth's "one league", we are talking the empire's one league measurement, and if you read the raw, little print underneath the panel specifically said 1 league = 1.6km.

[Newhope]

Originally Posted by Hata

no, I/we/this manga is not talking about the earth's "one league", we are talking the empire's one league measurement, and if you read the raw, little print underneath the panel specifically said 1 league = 1.6km.

Even if thats the case it's still wrong, 1.6km X 3=4.8km or 4800 meters a 81mm mortar has a max range of about 6000m.

[Hata]

Originally Posted by Newhope

Even if thats the case it's still wrong, 1.6km X 3=4.8km or 4800 meters a 81mm mortar has a max range of about 6000m.

so, did Itami say anything wrong when he say around 5km? last I check 5km is within 6km, so an 81mm can totally do this. may be he did not want to do an accurate math in the head for an answer? may be he did not want to get bog down in explaining the meaning of 3.75 leagues?

please stop arguing semantic, there is nothing wrong with this part of story,

[aohige]

Argh these debates stemming from lack of translation is annoying.

from novel 2

「うーんこちらの三位で三リーグちょっと（１リーグ1.6km）といったところですかねえ？」
とざっくばらんに暗算した上で、少し控えめに答えた。武器の性能の全てを正直に答える必要はないからである 。

"Hmm, using your measurement, I'd say a little more than 3 leagues? (1 league = 1.6km)"
He answered with a rough modest estimate, a little less than its full range.
There's no need to inform them of the full capabilities of their weapons.

Yes, Itami said it wrong. Yes, it's on purpose, and yes, it's a rough estimate.
Now let's move on.

[Top Sergeant]

Originally Posted by Hata

no, I/we/this manga is not talking about the earth's "one league", we are talking the empire's one league measurement, and if you read the raw, little print underneath the panel specifically said 1 league = 1.6km.

So in the Empire, their league is basically an earth mile.

[Kamui04]

Originally Posted by Top Sergeant

Either deliberate disinformation for the Empire, or error on the manga creator's part: the mortar shown is an 81mm, but the range Itami gave was maximum for a 120mm (or thereabouts). (3 leagues = 9 miles)

Just something that jumped out at me, being a former mortar man.

Originally Posted by Newhope

Even if thats the case it's still wrong, 1.6km X 3=4.8km or 4800 meters a 81mm mortar has a max range of about 6000m.

Just to comment. In that manga panel Itami says in that world's units it is around 3 leagues. And there's a note below that panel: 1 league = 1.6 km. What that world calls as Leagues would be our worlds Miles, not our world's leagues. And thus the range of around 4.8 km or 3 miles isn't wrong if the maximum range is 6km.
Let's hope ppl understand that rough estimates, rounding numbers, etc has a lot of variations depending on the size of the number and personal preferences and I hope we don't go to a 10 page discussion like I witnessed with a single line from a TV series.

Originally Posted by aohige

Argh these debates stemming from lack of translation is annoying.

from novel 2


Yes, Itami said it wrong. Yes, it's on purpose, and yes, it's a rough estimate.
Now let's move on.

As most of military equipment and vehicles, what specs civilians can read on paper or wiki vs what they can really do.

[aohige]

Especially non-combatant leaders of nation you are at war with.

[Newhope]

Originally Posted by Kamui04

Just to comment. In that manga panel Itami says in that world's units it is around 3 leagues. And there's a note below that panel: 1 league = 1.6 km. What that world calls as Leagues would be our worlds Miles, not our world's leagues. And thus the range of around 4.8 km or 3 miles isn't wrong if the maximum range is 6km.
Let's hope ppl understand that rough estimates, rounding numbers, etc has a lot of variations depending on the size of the number and personal preferences and I hope we don't go to a 10 page discussion like I witnessed with a single line from a TV series.

Rounding goes to the nearest whole number which in this case would be 4 leagues.

[aohige]

Reading through novel 4, I chuckled when came across chapters talking about how our world disagrees on the terminology of calling the gods of their world "gods".
Especially countries with strong monotheistic religious influences, namely Christians and Muslims, demand we not use the word "god" to address them, as they believe only true God is in his heaven in our world. So to speak.

Well. Gods like Hardy in that world are spiritual beings with no physical bodies, can hear thoughts of thousands of believers and worshipped by millions, and she even rule an afterlife world where all souls of mortal goes to spend eternity under her rule.
Yeah. That's a god.

Apparently the fact Hardy is a sentient being that mortals can actually contact and communicate with really bugs the religions of our side world in "Gate".
Because they have definite proof of existence.

[Breimoon]

wonder if they tried asking why the god/gods in our world do not speak to us.

[dragonsense]

looks like there's still no translator that pick this novel to be his project

[aohige]

Just finished the 4th novel (7th and 8th LN books)
Eagerly awaiting for 5th, hopefully should be out next month..

I found this scene hilarious.

Spoiler:

Due to encounters with Hardy and revelations, Lelei now has the ability to open small gates.

This is huge news to Japan, as they may have alternative when they're forced to close the gate (various reasons, including potential destruction of worlds)

So all the big wigs in Japan, the prime minister, defence secretary, JSDF generals, etc gather to watch Lelei perform her first test at opening the gate in a secluded top-secret building.
She opens a gate just big enough for one person to go through.
They send cameras in but could not get any pictures. So Itami casually steps in.

Few moments later Itami comes dashing out of the gate, screaming at Lelei to close it immediately, this world is not good.
The Japanese officials ask him what is it, what's on the other side?

Well... There are these eggs like this big right? All lined up on some organic floor and walls right?
Then it opened up on the top like a flower when I approached it...

*moment of silence as the officials imagine a certain movie*

OMG CLOSE THE GATE CLOSE THIS BULDING UP!!!
Call outside and tell them if they don't hear from us within 24 hours burn this whole building down!!
Everyone, I'm sorry but please be prepared to die here, for the safety of our nation!

To everyone' relief, Lelei closes the gate with a puzzled look on her face.


Yeah, she connected to H.R. Giger's Alien world.

Needless to say, Itami was immediately detained and sent to high-security medical building on complete lock-down, to make sure he didn't have any face-hugger implants in him.

[havensgate]

LOL
but it look like i miss a lot
- the big gate closed already?
- lelei went with itami to our world?
- who else?

[Breimoon]

wow , really awesome xD so, when will they understand that this needs anime?XD

[Kamui04]

Originally Posted by havensgate

LOL
but it look like i miss a lot
- the big gate closed already?
- lelei went with itami to our world?
- who else?

Are you up to date reading the manga?
The manga is currently at Vol. 2 of the Novel.
Aohige was referring to events in Vol. 4.
The big gate close happens in vol. 5.

[Drkz]

Originally Posted by aohige

Just finished the 4th novel (7th and 8th LN books)
Eagerly awaiting for 5th, hopefully should be out next month..

I found this scene hilarious.

Spoiler:

Due to encounters with Hardy and revelations, Lelei now has the ability to open small gates.

This is huge news to Japan, as they may have alternative when they're forced to close the gate (various reasons, including potential destruction of worlds)

So all the big wigs in Japan, the prime minister, defence secretary, JSDF generals, etc gather to watch Lelei perform her first test at opening the gate in a secluded top-secret building.
She opens a gate just big enough for one person to go through.
They send cameras in but could not get any pictures. So Itami casually steps in.

Few moments later Itami comes dashing out of the gate, screaming at Lelei to close it immediately, this world is not good.
The Japanese officials ask him what is it, what's on the other side?

Well... There are these eggs like this big right? All lined up on some organic floor and walls right?
Then it opened up on the top like a flower when I approached it...

*moment of silence as the officials imagine a certain movie*

OMG CLOSE THE GATE CLOSE THIS BULDING UP!!!
Call outside and tell them if they don't hear from us within 24 hours burn this whole building down!!
Everyone, I'm sorry but please be prepared to die here, for the safety of our nation!

To everyone' relief, Lelei closes the gate with a puzzled look on her face.


Yeah, she connected to H.R. Giger's Alien world.

Needless to say, Itami was immediately detained and sent to high-security medical building on complete lock-down, to make sure he didn't have any face-hugger implants in him.

Oh god... it means gundams can exist in gate! Woot

[Kioras]

I guess opening up gates until they can peek into the worlds beforehand is not for mere mortals.

[aohige]

Yeah, it does humorously drive home how opening holes to another world is extremely dangerous.

Not all worlds are going to be less-threatening than our own like the one in Gate.

If Lelei opened gate to say... super-powered mutated zombie apocalypse of L4D
Or opened gate to Starship troopers world.
The world would be completely and utterly screwed.