2010-11-23, 16:44 | Link #9981 |
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In a renewal of the Korean conflict, the country that should be the most worried (and likely is) is Japan. Aside from in South Korea, any of its allies will be operated from Japanese bases or America bases in Japan.
On the nuclear front, there is still only one country that has ever been on the receiving end of a nuclear attack....again, Japan. Unless someone gets depreate (or stupid) it will likely remain that way. After the Korean War, it was pretty much decided that nuclear weapons are a deturant weapon than anything else. Something to keep the major powers from fighting full out wars because of the threat of mutual destruction. This has not stopped smaller wars from happening, but does play a factor is just what goes down and what doesn't. Because it is pretty much a given right now...the first one to use a nuke is likely going to be on the receiving end from everyone elses nukes. The only exception to this would be if the five nuclear powers agreed on its use against a non-nuclear power that had become nuclear and a threat to all of them.
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2010-11-23, 16:49 | Link #9982 | ||
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The Americans called it human wave tactics because to call it anything else would be admitting that the Chinese outmaneuvered the Americans who weren't paying enough attention. That makes you look stupid, where as being overwhelmed by superior numbers makes you look heroic. Quote:
The United States had no interest in fighting a war with China. Hence Truman trying to get reassurance from MacArthur that China wouldn't get involved. When China did get involved, Truman considered the objective to broker a cease fire. MacArthur being a dumbass, went over the head of his commanding officer and demanded the Chinese surrender immediately or face the US expanding the war into mainland China. Truman could have done ALLOT more than fire MacArthur. He could have (and maybe should have) had his ass court martial-ed. |
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2010-11-23, 16:52 | Link #9983 | |
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2010-11-23, 16:56 | Link #9984 | |
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2010-11-23, 17:25 | Link #9985 | |
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It's a question than could be debated between Korea and Japan...
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2010-11-23, 17:28 | Link #9986 | |||
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To CM him would be to CM a war hero and make the politicians look bad. Quote:
Well, actually, I used the term "kimchi supply" to denote how the rest of the world probably won't give a shit in a post-recession like this, to bother and boycott a purposeful invasion should one occur. To them (or at least their ill-informed citizens), Korea is just another producer of kimchi and bulgolgi, and has nothing to do with their pensions and university fees screwing up in their home country. Quote:
Reassuring isn't it?
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2010-11-23, 17:43 | Link #9987 |
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Look Truman's handling of MacArthur was kid gloves because of his war hero status, but even to Americans that treated him as such, their patience with his confrontation with Truman seemed to be wearing thin, especially with the political cartoons, and the overall reaction to the Korean War. Drafts just weren't popular especially when there were no implications like Japnese Imperialism or Hitler pushing America to fight.
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2010-11-23, 17:45 | Link #9988 | |
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It's a stupid behavior ( but still understandable given their lack of knowledge of the situation), given than such war would have a big impact on the national's budjet, and that would impact for sure on all the economy .
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2010-11-23, 18:24 | Link #9989 |
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He had nothing to do with midway. Are you thinking of the re-invasion of the Philippines? Though you are right about him being considered a war hero and that it would just make Truman look bad in the eyes of the public.
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2010-11-23, 19:15 | Link #9990 |
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Best Quarter ever!
This one's for the record books http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/24/bu...econ.html?_r=1 |
2010-11-23, 21:39 | Link #9991 |
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More than it cost rehabilitate Eastern Europe, the GDR in particular? I don't know the answer, but I'd bet reconstruction in the DPRK would end up costing less even though they have such a limited base to build on.
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2010-11-23, 21:45 | Link #9992 | |
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My favourite response to the current Korean Peninsula standoff had to be Russia's:
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Does anybody remember the South Ossetia War in 2008 and Russia's retaliation on Georgia for it's incursion into the protected territory? The use of force sure as hell didn't seem to be an unacceptable path then did it? In any case you can bet China and the U.S are on high alert and ready to step in in some capacity should things escalate from here. |
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2010-11-23, 23:55 | Link #9993 | |
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You also need to factor in things like Health Cost. Starvation/malnutrition has created a large segment of the North Korean populace with chronic medical conditions that will be very expensive to treat under the South Korean health care system. And those costs aren't going to be balanced out with new revenue from the North. |
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2010-11-24, 01:10 | Link #9994 |
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Does NK have any natural resources that SK could use? I'm sure the cost will be high initially, but I can't help but feel 50 years down the road from reintegration the 'investment' would pay off. That's just my assumption though, I don't really know too much about the issue.
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2010-11-24, 01:30 | Link #9995 | |
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2010-11-24, 01:36 | Link #9996 | |
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Some claim that there is even cannibalism in N. Korea in certain areas where conditions are so horrible they have no other choice. If these claims are in fact true, then this country's dictatorship needs to fall. I realize the N. Korea/S. Korea situation is a dangerous powder-keg, but it's hard to hear about these poor people living in these conditions and not want to help them become free.
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2010-11-24, 02:06 | Link #9997 | |
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Btw. when you flee your country and you face potential extradiction from where you fled to... what would you claim in order to not to be send back? (The result is similar to torturing someone to get the "truth" out of him/her). So if you care about actual people, you don't want to wage a proxy war there. Because ideology likely plays into the hands of the northern regime. I suppose any action that is not coming from inside of North Korea will make the north korean people side with their regime. And the resulting blood bath is a disservice when you actually meant to help those people.
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2010-11-24, 02:19 | Link #9998 | |
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2010-11-24, 05:48 | Link #10000 |
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U.S. aircraft carrier heads for Korean waters
http://ca.reuters.com/article/topNew...6MN0SQ20101124
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